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Jed York may care more about winning than his parents, but he's still making some really crappy moves. Even though they always boast a huge contingent of obnoxious bandwagon fans when they're good, Candlestick was always filled with die hard fans when they sucked. Also, the new stadium is actually much closer to San Jose than San Francisco (a much longer distance than the trip between the Meadowlands and New York), but they're keeping the name. Not only does the team move over an hour south of San Francisco, but now the fans won't even be able to afford to see their team.
This is NOT our Father's NFL! Frowner

Stories like this are sad indeed, but teams building new stadiums continue to do business as per the usual. AFAIK, teams haven't suffered lost ticket sales since this PSL crap started; it seems to me that people still buy tickets when a team is winning, and don't when they're not. It must be a helluva revenue stream.
I particularly like the 'option' of having the team finance the PSL at 8.5% per year. Not a bad racket...
60 year season ticket holder and he's thanked by being asked to cough up $120k in seat fees for seats that are almost triple what he's paying now.

The quick math on those choice 9,000 seats say's the 49'ers get back around $300 million in liscense fees alone. Not counting fees on the remaining 60,000 seats.
Looks like 1,000 seats have an $80k license price tag. The next tier have a license fee of $30k, the next tier is $20k. The $80/$30/$20k seats make up the 9,000 club level seats.

The remaining 60,000 seats have a TBD license fee. But even if that fee is only $5k per seat your talking about $600 million in license fees alone the 49'ers recover from the public for a stadium built "without public funding".

The fact that the initial 9,000 club seats have not been sold in the 3 plus months since they became available sheds new light on the flirtation with Peyton Manning.
I think the article is kind of misleading in the beginning. The 49ers are jsut charging premium price for the club seats, this guy can still put down a deposit for non-club seats and I imagine he would get them. They probably won't be as good as his previous seats, but they have to pay for the new stadium somehow and the Bay area is very wealth as we all know and there are people who will pay exorbitant prices out there. I really don't think it is as bad as the guy makes it out, he is losing his premium seating, but could still have less expensive season tix.
Why should he lose his premium seating? He's been a season ticket holder since 1950, doesn't that count for anything? Where's the loyalty to your loyal fanbase?

Does everything have to be about money?

On a smaller scale simply look at timesfour.com. Don't you think we could turn this website into a money making venture with a bunch of ads? I could charge money to be a part of this website. Would a bunch of people leave? Probably, but I'll bet a lot would stay & pay for the privilege to be a part of something special & unique. Meanwhile I could be pocketing a lot of cash.

The greed factor is disgusting.
If the consumer gets a certificate to go along with his or her PSL I see nothing wrong with the price tag.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Why should he lose his premium seating? He's been a season ticket holder since 1950, doesn't that count for anything? Where's the loyalty to your loyal fanbase?


You would think they could grandfather people like this in somehow. I wonder if there isn't some exceptions to this.
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In the article the guy said he agreed to pay full price for the new tickets if the 49'ers agreed to put off the $120k license fee for 10 years and maybe toss him free parking. A 60 year season ticket holder offers up a compromise to accept going from $5k per year in ticket costs to $14k per year in ticket costs AND agrees to the $120k fee if they work with him a bit and they tell him his best option is to get on the waiting list for cheaper seats.

Then again, $120k in license fees may not be such a bad deal after all.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Why should he lose his premium seating?


He loses them because he doesn't want to pay the PSL (or can't). I feel for him, but the premium PSL's are going to cost a ton. I agree that loyalty doesn't go very far in this world anymore, but the team needs to finance the new stadium somehow. Any way they make an exception, they are drawing an arbitrary line where some people will be on the other side. I don't understand if he is such a big fan why he wouldn't have put the $500 to keep some sort of season tickets instead of going to the press with his sob story.

My father-in-law had to plunk down a good bit of change for PSLs at the new Soldier field, they took his 45 yard line seats and moved them down to like the 20/25 yard line at the same row level pretty much. His other seats are the stupit Caddilac club (or whoever the new sponsor is) that he has to pay like a $150 premium on each ticket over the face value, just so their is an indoor concourse. What a ripoff. Yes, it sucked that he got moved to less desirable seats, but he didn't go to the press whining about it. If the guys that old, I would have thought he would have discovered life is not fair, but don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
What were the PSL's at Lambeau? $1,500 per seat with the most updated renovation about 10 years ago? Did they charge a higher PSL for the more premium seats? I can't recall. All I know is that some of these newer stadiums (see Yankees Stadium) are upcharging customers ridiculous rates to maintain their seats.

Supply and demand I guess, but I'll LMAO if these teams can't fill their stadiums.

And people wonder why in places like MN the general population wants nothing to do with providing public finding for stadiums. California isn't much different (see Sacramento with a new Kings stadium).

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