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in all honesty this was pretty much what I expected to see yesterday. this was this team's first actual preseason game. let's just hope they don't need 3 more to figure it out.

"Worry is a wasted emotion."

-- Ted Thompson

But, if you don't play well early in the season, the later games may not matter a whole lot. I think we may be fighting for a playoff spot this year especially if we lose Thursday and go 0-2 with two home losses.

So Pack squeezes in as last wild card then kicks the niners ass at their place.

the better team won yesterday. it remains to be seen who will be better in january.

Not with that defense. Let's face it, this defense does not inspire that kind of optimism. I think the offensive play will improve based upon flashes yesterday and 2011, but 2010 was a long time ago for the defense.

i think the loss of nick collins is the main reason.

I ask myself this: How in the world are we gonna stop those two big Bears receivers and Forte? Cutler is more apt to turn the ball over, but you have to be near the receivers and also have consistant pressure on Cutler.

I hope yesterday isn't going to be Caper's blueprint for the season: let them complete passes underneath and pray for a mistake. This does two things that are not good. Allows the other team to control the ball and doesn't force turnovers.

The loss of Nick Collins is felt bigtime. But this defense is a work in progress. It may take half or most of the season if we are lucky for them to come around as a unit and play up to their potential. Most of all the big plays made yesterday on D was from veteran players.

CMIII was the only veteran on D who showed up.

(Tramon too but that was because Bush and Shields were the focus of SF's attention.)

I'd rather see a 10-6 season, some hard lessons learned and a deep playoff run.

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Originally posted by Tdog:
this was this team's first actual preseason game.

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Originally posted by johnnie gray:
i think the loss of nick collins is the main reason.

...and Cullen Jenkins
...and keeping Hawk over Barnett
... and Woodson getting older while Shields just...WTF it is that's happened with Shields
...and Raji not playing as well/too many snaps

While Collins was big, it isn't just one thing. Turnover happens but guys simply haven't stepped up to fill those roles. Maybe Perry, House, Heyward, McMillan, Smith and/or Lattimore can step up at some point but that hasn't happened yet. If they do the Packers will be in business but until they do there will be a number of rough moments.

Myself answers with what VinceL. used to say: " Good teams win the games they are suppossed to win"

I think the Packers will be rebound vs the Bears. While their performance was mostly underwhelming yesterday, it is a long season and they got too many good players to simply whither up and shrink away.

That being said, McCarthy did not have himself and his coaches and his players ready to fight the Niners. We have seen this before and again it reared its yesterday as it did, last January...the Packers played "soft" on the field and on the sideline.

MM has to get tougher.

So, this means you are saying that SF is an inferior team?

I am amazed at this statement. last i remember, the 49ers were in the NFCC while GB was sitting at home watching with bruised egos.

No way in H E double toothpicks is SF an inferior team.

SF has assembled a pretty fine football team. The Bay area can be proud. Great Team!
now, I also believe that if yout let these 2 teams play a series of 5, 7 or even 9 games, it will come down to the final game to see who actually wins.

Too many "FANS" are still living in 2010. this is not the same team as then. Even the entire Team will tell us this.
it is impossible to maintain the level of play they exhibited at the end of 2010. Then they went 15-1 and everyone was expecting a repeat......
didn't happen for obvious reasons. In other words, if I need to explain it to you, then you have the Football acumen of a Cricket player.

A-Rod played at an unbelievable level last year. Guess what, he had a once in a lifetime season. he is a great QB and we are lucky to have him.

one last point, the GBP are not "entitled" to anything. they have to earn it just like everyone else. get the stupid "we onbly have to show up and the victory is ours" crap out of your heads, this is not the NFL. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!

Yesterday we were BEATEN by the better "team". I just hope that in January the Pack will be a much better team than they were yesterday. I am 100% certain that they will be.
I still stand by my 13-3 for the season.

I also think that the Bears are going to run into a buzz-saw on Thursday night.

I think the Packers are a very, very ANGRY football team right now.

Simply because they embarrassed themselves last night. I honestly would not want to be the Bears coming int GB on Thursday.....

42-13 GB is what i am thinking. they are going to put a beat-down on them.

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I think the Packers are a very, very ANGRY football team right now.

I bet Julius Peppers and the rest of the bares are shaking in their cleats.

SF is a very good football team, and I wish our D played with the same passion and hard-hitting attitude. Come to think of it, our O could have used a kick in the butt.

I think it will take about four games for our D to really figure out what's up and to start reacting rather than thinking. If, by game 6 they still look lost and are not getting more pressure on the QB, then I'll be worried. As for the O, I expect more fire, more cohesion and better play starting this week.

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Originally posted by Fandame:
Come to think of it, our O could have used a kick in the butt.

I think that happened yesterday.

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Originally posted by Herschel:
...and keeping Hawk over Barnett

I'm not a Hawk fan and I would still make that move.

Regarding Collins. Great teams get over the loss of impact players. Holmgren's squad did so in the mid 90's when Sharpe went down. In 2010-11, it occurred several times. This team will get over Collins.

I see the Packers at 7-2 at the bye week. Next loss will be at the Texans. Then things get tough with games @ Lions and @ Giants. Then home for Minnyhaha and Detoilet. Then @ $hitcago, home for Titans and road game at Minnyhaha. 2 losses in the 3 games with @ Detoilet, Giants, $hitcago. Rest wins. Finish season 12-4.

Let us not kid ourselves. The Bears defense is not the 49ers defense. SF is badass and while Peppers and Urlacher are there they aren't the Smith brothers and they certainly are not Pat Willis.

I also don't think the Bores OL is anything close to SF in terms of ability.

No front 7 is remotely close to what SF has assembled. The Giants front 4 is close. But their play at linebacker is as good as it gets.

MM is really going to have to earn his money to game plan around that the next time they meet.

Watching the 49'ers try and account for Cobb coming out of the backfield and when he went in motion tells me Benson may spend some time on the bench if they meet again. I don't see GB having any success running the ball against SF (no surprise, no one does). They went 14 games last year before giving up a rushing TD. And have allowed a back to gain 100 yards ONCE in the last 39 games.

The good news.... SF has 4-5 guys on D that have contracts coming up at the end of the year. No way they bring them all back. Yeah, it's a pretty sad attemtpt to look for a positive.

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Originally posted by Herschel:
...and Cullen Jenkins
...and keeping Hawk over Barnett

Ummm, last I checked Barnett is out of football...agree with losing Jenkins

Playing in Buffalo still counts as being in the NFL, right?

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Originally posted by Sufferinginmn:

Ummm, last I checked Barnett is out of football...agree with losing Jenkins

He still plays for the Bills.

Who cares? (a) Barnett wasn't replaced by Hawk - he was replaced by Bishop and GB's defense promptly improved drastically. (b) Barnett and Hawk are both really good at making tackles five yards down the field, so replacing Hawk with him would be a wash - at best. Hawk and Barnett are both overpaid, overrated former first-rounders who are decent players but far from difference makers.

What's important is that the Immortal DJ Smith has been exposed as an average player at this point. He's got a ton of room to improve, but they're really going to miss that thumper type at ILB, particularly against physical, run-first teams.

Word.

Bishop would have made a difference in yesterday's game IMO JMO.

do you say "imo jimo" when you type that?

How did I get here?

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Originally posted by JJSD:
What's important is that the Immortal DJ Smith has been exposed as an average player at this point. He's got a ton of room to improve, but they're really going to miss that thumper type at ILB, particularly against physical, run-first teams.

You mean, as in teams like the Bears? We can take it to the bank that Chicago will copy-cat the Niner offensive game plan. The Packers will see a healthy dose of Forte, and the Bears will get Marshall matched with Bush/Shields as often as they can. If I recall correctly, the Packers had a tough time with Marshall when he was with Miami. A game the Phish won during the 2010 season. I don't see the Packers defense rebounding in 3 days. I just pray Rodgers and the offense comes to play, because they'll have to score more than 15 points (remember, we got 7 on Cobb's big return) to win.

Mark it down!

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
How did I get here?

The niners just didnt miss tackles, the packers just didnt make plays. If we see them again, we win. I feel terrible for the bears. it may get ugly. I cant wait for, oh say about week 10, when were 2 games up on the division and tied for first in the conference, and this team really gets the fire under their a**. trust me guys, it is still there. one game.

The only thing i didnt see yesterday was the leadership from our guy.
The one who gets in the huddle and says, "lets get out here, do what we do, they cant stop us, lets whip their ass."