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Your Green Bay Packers (7-3) meet the Chicago B***s (4-6) for the 192nd time in the most storied rivalry in the NFL.

 

Lambeau Field, this Thursday, Thanksgiving evening, at 7:30 PM LFT on NBC with Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth on the call.

 

Can't say it better, so re-using San Doggy's great post following the season opener:

 

Originally Posted by San Doggy:

Great win ! Now this win sets things up for quite a memorable night at Lambeau on Thanksgiving Day. As mentioned, the Bears now only lead the Packers by one game in the head to head record.

 

A win and another sweep of the Bears.

 

A win would tie the head to head record at 93-93-6, the first time the Bears didn't have the lead since 1933.

 

Bart Starr's return to Lambeau with Brett Favre and Aaron all together being the Packers SB winning QB'S.

 

Brett Favre getting his number retired.

 

First Thanksgiving Day game in Lambeau Field history. Last Packer home thanksgiving day game was in 1928.

 

Yes, it's B*** week and a crucial game in the division and the NFC.

 

Yes, the media will cream themselves all week trying to make this all about Brent.

 

But speaking for myself, this is Bart and Cherry's week. 

 

And a last welcome for the greatest championship quarterback in NFL history.

 

 

 

 

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The only person I've ever heard disparage Bart Starr was Ernie Accorsi, a Colts guy who worked in their front office during the tail end of the Unitas years. His rationale was that Starr wasn't elite because he didn't put up massive numbers (for the era) like Unitas. Joe Montana didn't put up massive numbers like Dan Marino did, but he just won championships.

Thank you Cuqui for remembering that post I sent way back on week 1 ! I was going to mention those things again this week but you already have that taken care of

What a special night at Lambeau we have to look forward to.

Mike has got to figure out a way to get the ball into Janis!'s hands. Big plays waiting to happen for an offense that badly needs them. Happened again today.

 

Since there's no Monty run the friggin' fly sweep with him, anything. He's dangerous with the ball in his hands and any space at all.

 

Love that they took the Jordy shot play with him. 

 

Defenses are going to do what we've been saying here on the board -- you have to respect his speed and that should open up room for others. If defenses don't respect that speed then take shots.

Even if all he does is draw a flag....Isn't it WORTH IT for him to be on the field?

 

His speed has a chance to change field position. 

 

Only thing I can think is they're "saving him" but good lord they needed to win today if they have any plans on getting the #1 or #2 seed.

Originally Posted by CAPackfan:


Yeah...maybe the guy still can't line up properly or run all the routes but can't they get him out there for a few plays? Doesn't hurt to get some speed out there

If he cant line up properly have someone place him in his spot and tell him "see that goalpost? run as fast as you can towards it and look for the ball"

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

Maybe he ran it flat but you're telling me he NEVER ran that route before?  I ran that route in high school circa 1964

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

 

It's  getting ridiculous.  

 

Janis needs to give in and drop the soap in front of Rodgers.   Aaron needs to stop thinking too much and just go through his progressions.  The name on the jersey doesn't matter, just find the open man.   

 

What was Cobb's completion % yesterday?  Maybe 20% or so?

Just keep winning no matter how ugly and we can hope and pray Clements is washing jock straps by playoffs time.  **** is that guy miserable.  I'm hoping MM's head is ****ing melting and he's going to rip the cap off all the "complex, genius" offensive and defensive play calling and instill some maniac mentality just for this season.  

 

Full bezerker, it's the only way to get to the Superb Owl.

Originally Posted by Pikes Peak:
Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

Maybe he ran it flat but you're telling me he NEVER ran that route before?  I ran that route in high school circa 1964


Went back & listened to presser, AR said Janis ran a route that "he probably hadn't run all season"

 

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

He wasn't taking about the go route that drew the flag, he was referring to another target of Janis that was a deep cross.

Originally Posted by Hungry5:
 

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

He wasn't taking about the go route that drew the flag, he was referring to another target of Janis that was a deep cross.

Thanks for clarification, wasn't sure since he was not specific about which play he was talking about

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

Well...at least Aaron gave Janis kudos on his return. 

Originally Posted by Hungry5:
 

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

Did you catch AR's press conference when he said Janis had never run that route , & added "he ran it a little flat"

He wasn't taking about the go route that drew the flag, he was referring to another target of Janis that was a deep cross.

I totally missed that! 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers not listed with the shoulder?

 

 

 

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The Bart Starr interview

Cold, Hard Football Facts for Jan 25, 2009

 

 

It's championship time in the NFL. And few names in football resonate with more resounding championship authority than Packers Hall of Fame quarterback and Cold, Hard Football Facts favorite Bart Starr.

When we started Cold, Hard Football Facts.com a few years back, our take on Starr reflected the conventional wisdom about him: a nice little caretaker quarterback who simply benefitted from great talent around him.

But as we dove deeper into the game, and studied the numbers more intently, a curious pattern in the data – the important data, the data that actually matters, the Cold, Hard Football Facts – began to emerge. In fact, there was Starr's name everywhere we turned.

He won the most titles (five), he boasted the best postseason record (9-1), and produced the highest postseason passer rating (104.8). We soon realized that these were not coincidences, that the dynastic Packers may have made Starr (as reputation would indicate) but that Starr also made the dynastic Packers (as Cold, Hard Football Fact would indicate).

The data far surpassed the humble nature of the Starr reputation.

 

[more at the link]

 

http://www.coldhardfootballfac...tarr-interview/6871/

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The definitive list: Top 10 NFL quarterbacks
Cold, Hard Football Facts for Jan 23, 2008

 

1. BART STARR (Green Bay, 1956-71)
Best season (1966): 156 for 251 (62.2%), 2,257 yards, 9.0 YPA, 14 TD, 3 INT, 105.0 passer rating
Career: 1,808 for 3,149 (57.4%), 24,718 yards, 7.8 YPA, 152 TD, 138 INT, 80.5 passer rating 
Championships: 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966, 1967
Overview: That's right. Bart Starr. The greatest quarterback in the history of the game.
 
Sit down and take notes:
 
History has done a grave disservice to the legacy of Starr, the 17th-round draft pick out of pre-Bear Bryant Alabama who turned into the most clutch and most cruelly efficient passing assassin of his or any other generation.
 
History remembers Starr's legendary coach, and the bevy of Hall of Fame talent that surrounded him. It forgets that Starr was Lombardi's second in command, a tremendous big-game performer, and that the Packers of the 1960s would have been just another team without the prolific Starr as their beloved on-field leader. Instead, they won five NFL championships, with Starr at the helm of every single one of those title teams, while he crafted an NFL-record 9-1 postseason mark. The rings say it all: Starr is the only quarterback in history who has one for every finger on his throwing hand.
 
And even if you listen to teammates today, they make it pretty clear that they would have fallen on a grenade for Starr. Leadership is an elemental piece of quarterbacking – probably more important than gaudy passing stats. And that love his teammates had for their field general is an incredible sign of his leadership.
 
But forget, for a moment, the team accomplishments and the "intangibles" of leadership.
 
If you want to talk passing and statistics, we'll put Starr up against anybody. Anybody.
 
He led the NFL in passer rating five times. Johnny Unitas led the league in passer rating just twice. Ditto Joe Montana. Only Steve Young surpassed Starr's mark (six).
 
And, lest we forget, Starr was the best postseason passer in NFL history, as evidenced by his record 104.8 playoff passer rating and 1.41 percent interception rate, also a postseason record (CHFF readers are well aware of the importance of not throwing picks in the playoffs). Starr played in an era when 80 was a decent passer rating. Yet he still performed more efficiently in the playoffs than folks such as Montana, Brady, Manning, Marino, Young and ... well, anybody, ever.
 
There's a cause and effect here, folks: NFL's greatest dynasty, only winners of three-straight title games, and a record 9-1 postseason mark. And there, underlying it all, is Starr with his postseason passing records. The two are intricately intertwined.
 
History also remembers Starr's Packers as a great running team, and that's certainly true of their earlier years. But the truth is that they typically passed the ball more effectively than they ran it, especially during their run of three straight, when they were a below-average running team.
 
In their 1965 championship season, the Packers were 11th in the 14-team league with an average of 3.4 yards per rushing attempt. They were second in the league, with an average of 8.2 yards per passing attempt.
 
In their 1966 championship season, the Packers were 14th in the 15-team league, with an average of 3.5 yards per rushing attempt. They were first in the league, with an average of 8.9 yards per passing attempt.
 
In their 1967 championship season, the Packers were 4th in the 16-team league, with an average of 4.0 yards per rushing attempt. They were first in the league, with an average of 8.3 yards per passing attempt (Starr himself that season averaged 8.7 YPA).
 
Starr averaged a remarkable 7.85 YPA over the course of his entire career, the 8th-best mark in history, and better than that of a slate of quarterbacks who are generally regarded as the best passers in history, including Dan Marino (7.37), Joe Montana (7.52), Roger Staubach (7.67), Dan Fouts (7.68), Sonny Jurgensen (7.56), Fran Tarkenton (7.27), Y.A. Tittle (7.52), Terry Bradshaw (7.17) and Joe Namath (7.35).
 
Six times in the 1960s, Starr surpassed 8.2 YPA for a season. To put that into context, Peyton Manning has surpassed 8.2 YPA just twice in his brilliant 10-year career.
 
And, if you want drama, don't forget that Starr scored the winning TD in the Ice Bowl, probably the most famous game in NFL history. Sure, Montana led his team 92 yards for the game-winning score in Super Bowl XXIII. But he did it on a 68-degree night in Miami. Turn down the thermostat by 86 degrees (it was 18-below in the fourth quarter of the Ice Bowl) and you begin to approximate the conditions under which the greatest quarterback in NFL history operated during his greatest moment in the sport's greatest game.
 
And Starr was brilliant on that drive, in the decisive moments of the sport's most famous game: he completed 5 of 5 passes in ball-busting cold, and then called a run play for the winning score. But instead of handing it off, he decided in his mind, without telling his teammates, that he was going to punch it in himself. It was only fitting: the game's greatest signal-caller taking matters into his own hands in the sport's signature moment.
 
To cap his career achievements, Starr earned MVP honors in the first two Super Bowls after shredding the best the AFL could throw his way for 452 yards on 47 passing attempts (9.6 YPA). Among those victims were the 1967 Raiders, perhaps the AFL's greatest single team. He posted a combined 106.0 passer rating in those two games. If you think it was no small feat to beat up on "upstart" AFL teams, just look at how NFL quarterbacks fared in Super Bowls III and IV. (Here's a hint: they were embarrassed.)
 
When it comes to a combination of leadership, victories, big-game performances and statistical supremacy nobody – NOBODY – put together a more total package than Bart Starr, the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

 

http://www.coldhardfootballfac...l-quarterbacks/6376/

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Originally Posted by Pikes Peak:

He recessed himself

Sing it with me now...

 

If I were a housefly...I'd land on Bert's big head

 

Regurgitate and stuff... while I totally sheet the bed

 

If it weren't for 32 ...he'd have no luck at all

 

learnt nuthin cuz it ended with the same ol INT'd rocket ball.

 

 

I agree. It's Bart's and Cherry's week!      Originally Posted by cuqui:

 

Your Green Bay Packers (7-3) meet the Chicago B***s (4-6) for the 192nd time in the most storied rivalry in the NFL.

 

Lambeau Field, this Thursday, Thanksgiving evening, at 7:30 PM LFT on NBC with Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth on the call.

 

Can't say it better, so re-using San Doggy's great post following the season opener:

 

Originally Posted by San Doggy:

Great win ! Now this win sets things up for quite a memorable night at Lambeau on Thanksgiving Day. As mentioned, the Bears now only lead the Packers by one game in the head to head record.

 

A win and another sweep of the Bears.

 

A win would tie the head to head record at 93-93-6, the first time the Bears didn't have the lead since 1933.

 

Bart Starr's return to Lambeau with Brett Favre and Aaron all together being the Packers SB winning QB'S.

 

Brett Favre getting his number retired.

 

First Thanksgiving Day game in Lambeau Field history. Last Packer home thanksgiving day game was in 1928.

 

Yes, it's B*** week and a crucial game in the division and the NFC.

 

Yes, the media will cream themselves all week trying to make this all about Brent.

 

But speaking for myself, this is Bart and Cherry's week. 

 

And a last welcome for the greatest championship quarterback in NFL history.

 

 

 

 

 

Green Bay - The following is a summary of Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Monday evening press conference:

  • (On challenge this week) Health of the team. that's the biggest challenge. When you have a player who has an injury he can get back in seven days rather than four days.
  • (On Linsley) I have hope.
  • (On Hyde) Same. We'll see how he's doing this morning.
  • (On today) Game plan, work on down and distance, third down.
  • (On tape from yesterday) I watched some on the plane last night and some today.
  • (On Lacy) He played well and had more opportunities. I thought he was decisive. Ran behind his pads.
  • (On Tretter) He did well. Didn't have a chance to take some snaps. We didn't change anything, no adjustments and went out and played well.
  • (On Lacy and Starks) One-two punch and we'll see who starts first. We need both.
  • (On Datone Jones) Datone has done good things, splash plays. What's held him back is consistency. He needs to continue to work on that. Moving him around, you're seeing those opportunities come to light.
  • (On winning on road) We play Thursday night. It was fun. Fun ride home. You get up in the morning all about next game.
  • (On game) Best thing we did was we covered up our mistakes. That's what good teams do. First, need to eliminate them, but we made some mistakes and the energy and intensity covered up those things.
  • (On Bears) Improvement. Just going over the tape, you can just see the efficiency is up.
  • (On playing on Thursday) This is first time Thanksgiving game at night and at home. Usually go to Detroit every other year. First 24 hours is important. You learn to do different things to do. Our medical staff does a lot of things. Recovery doesn't start just after the game, they can do things before the game.
  • (On night game) Will be an incredible environment. Just whole environment will be great. But night games, you have to wait around all day. 
  • (On night) This is a special time in Packers history with Bart coming back and Brett Favre's retirement of his number, and just the fact have Brett, Bart and Aaron Rodgers together for the first time will be special.

Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's pre-practice press conference Tuesday:

  • (On practice today) Today a combination of Wednesday and Thursday.
  • (On adjusting to schedule) We're all on the same plan. We have some history with Thursday games. We feel like we have a good schedule to follow. We've tweaked it each and every year. I think once you get to thursday, it's exciting because you get to play. The prepaation is really quick.
  • (On classroom things) Intensity of mental preparation at the forefront.
  • (On Rodgers) He's good, he's sore like everybody.
  • (On Lacy) Watching first game Chicago and game Minnesota, you have more confidence, more in synch. Hitting the hole quicker, more decisive. That happens every posiitoin on the field. I felt he got into a groove.
  • (On Quarless) Nothing to announce on Andrew quite yet.
  • (On sustaining drives) Get a defense past six plays, the energy can tilt you're way. Defense wants to get off the field in three plays and so the longer you keep a defense on the field, the advantage is to the offense. All part of ebb and flow of football.
  • (On Favre ceremony) Everybody is aware of the retirement. It is at halftime, I'm not part of the details of that.
  • (On Favre speaking to the team) I would never announce any of those type of things.
  • (On Bears) They're playing much better than earlier in the season. Jay is having a very good year. We've seen a lot of the Bears. I would say Jay, like the rest of the team, their system is in place.
  • (On Langford) Good football player. Three-down back. That's the first thing I evaluate. He's extremely productive. I have the utmost respect for Matt Forte. We'll see if he plays this week.

Forget about Favre. Get Bart Starr to go to into the locker room. Starr won't have to say anything. His presence should be enough to motivate anyone at this point. It would be the equivalent of the All-Star game right before Ted Williams died or like Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig's last public appearances at Yankee Stadium.

 

By the way, has anyone heard if any other older Packers will be at the game. Jerry Kramer, Bratkowski, etc.?

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