Iowa snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?
Choke-eyes.
Goldie jinxing the Irish. Jack Coan doing his best Mertz imitation. Where in the hell was he throwing that?
O state with a huge fumble. Coan have a hero moment?
NM
@Goldie posted:and ya know?? The minute I wrote that I thought, great this’ll jinx em.
Probably had the wrong flag up
Amazing how revealing these bowl games are.
Crazy shoot out in Pasadena.
Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa…bringing down the Big Tens reputation….losers.
I just said almost the same thing to the wifey. The B1Gs best usually suck in bowls but the average teams seem to do well.
So outta all the big 10 teams in bowl games…..what’s the winning record?? Thanks.
Ohio State is coming back and they are behind because of a kickoff return TD and a fumble on offense at the 1. They are the better team.
The other three all lost to SEC teams.
10 teams made the bowls. Currently 5-4. So if O$U wins B1G wins 6-4. Otherwise it will be 5-5.
Rose bowl is the best college game I have seen in … this year
@GBFanForLife posted:Ohio state belongs in the SEC
Their boosters will pay the NIL fees that it will take to complete with Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Auburn, Florida, Oklahoma, etc.
It's basically going to be the SEC, Oregon, USC, Ohio State, Clemson, and Michigan. I don't think Notre Dame is going to be at that level long-term either.
Why the flying figgy pudding did UU not use their TOs?!
Michigan got worked because their athletes just aren’t as good as Georgia. The only Big Ten team that can compete with the top SEC teams is O$U and the Rose Bowl is a good example. They have team speed and top notch skill players.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Bonus Kirk
I wanna rap bout my career as a young black college athlete at the highest level. As guidance for u go getters coming up. S/O westerville and those city kids chasing
— Marcus Williamson (@WW_Marcus) January 2, 2022
Bright kid.
He’s obviously bought into the victim mentality that’s drilled into the heads of young black people. Other than perhaps the “no hoody” mandate, what grievances does he have that have anything to do with race? Hey bud, you’re a Division 1 athlete with a ton of perks and a big ass set of responsibilities… his attitude doesn’t bode well for his first job in the real world if he chafes at being told what to do and he has to put in long hours.
The NCAA doesn’t suck, but the current playoff system sure does.
Expand it to 16 teams. Then you’d see an Ohio State and ND and Okie State and Baylor and a few other teams make things interesting instead of just seeing Alabama win it every year.
@Tschmack posted:Michigan got worked because their athletes just aren’t as good as Georgia. The only Big Ten team that can compete with the top SEC teams is O$U and the Rose Bowl is a good example. They have team speed and top notch skill players.
You're right. Michigan is basically a school that recruits a little better than Wisconsin, but has the same problem against the SEC (their 4.5/4.6 40-time skill position guys get beat by the 4.3/4.4 guys at the elite SEC schools). Wisconsin generates as many good NFL OL and DL as anyone in the country. Wisconsin also obviously gets RBs as well to run behind those NFL OL. But they don't get the 5-star WRs and DBs.
Is it because a higher proportion of the great OL and DL aren't recognized as such until they grow into their bodies in their early 20s and get in a college weight room? If a kid is going to be fast and quick (WR or DB), you recognize it when he's about 14 or 15. The 325 pound NFL OL often are 250-260 pounds in high school and it takes a few extra years to see how they'll function when they get to 320-330.
A school like Michigan (or Wisconsin) can occasionally beat OSU/elite SEC teams if the OL dominates in the run game and their DL dominates the LOS and the QB doesn't have time to let the superior skill position guys run away from the DBs. If the OL/DL just breaks even against the opponent, they don't have much of a chance.
@Blair Kiel posted:Bright kid.
He’s obviously bought into the victim mentality that’s drilled into the heads of young black people. Other than perhaps the “no hoody” mandate, what grievances does he have that have anything to do with race? Hey bud, you’re a Division 1 athlete with a ton of perks and a big ass set of responsibilities… his attitude doesn’t bode well for his first job in the real world if he chafes at being told what to do and he has to put in long hours.
His comments could have been just as effective (if not more) if he'd have kept race of out of it. His comments are just as relevant for a poor white kid from Appalachia. These guys are encouraged to major in eligibility, period.
We are upper middle class and our daughter was a fairly highly recruited D1 athlete for track and field/cross country (6-7 schools gave offers) about 10 years ago. At some schools, she was told point-blank not to major in anything that required lab classes because it took away from practice time. This is for sports that about 30 people at the entire college actually care about.
Imagine playing a sport that actually makes enormous amounts of money for the university and playing for Urban Meyer.
@Tschmack posted:The NCAA doesn’t suck, but the current playoff system sure does.
Expand it to 16 teams. Then you’d see an Ohio State and ND and Okie State and Baylor and a few other teams make things interesting instead of just seeing Alabama win it every year.
I doubt a 16 team playoff would change much. #1 plays a #16 in the 1st round and will win. They then play an 8 or 9 seed and win again easily. Much the same in the other brackets. The 1st half of games may be close the better team will turn it on in the 2nd half as the lower seed wears down due to lack of depth. Oh sure there will be some upsets but in the end the 2 best teams or 2 of the top 4 seeds will still play for the championship.
In the current format (4 teams) an underdog like Cincinnati has zero chance of winning their first game much less winning a title.
You expand it to even 8 teams and you will see the occasional upset and expand it to 16 teams and you should expect upsets to occur.
The reason teams like Alabama can thrive is in a one or two game sequence their talent alone will beat you 80% of the time. You allow them to get healthy and prepare a month ahead of time? More like 95%.
They won’t have that luxury if they had to play 3 or 4 weekends in a row against decent teams. That’s what makes the NCAA basketball tournament so exciting. Even the blue bloods can get taken down on a routine basis.
And the fan interest would be incredible. Think if Alabama had to play Baylor and Ohio State and Georgia in a row?
For Christsakes Cinncy was undefeated. They had just as much chance to win as Georgia. Alabama was lucky to even be in the playoff. If Auburn had held on Bama was probably out and Notre Dame may have been in. Cinncy as a 3 would have played Michigan or Georgia. All having more teams in the playoff will do is make more money for the crooked NCAA. All playing more games will do is due to injuries lower seeded teams will have an even hardwer time competing due to lack of depth. Then add in the really good players from the lower seeds that opt out to keep NFL chance alive from not getting a serious injury and those teams have an even lesser chance of winning. It ain't broke, nothing to fix.
@Tschmack posted:In the current format (4 teams) an underdog like Cincinnati has zero chance of winning their first game much less winning a title.
You expand it to even 8 teams and you will see the occasional upset and expand it to 16 teams and you should expect upsets to occur.
The reason teams like Alabama can thrive is in a one or two game sequence their talent alone will beat you 80% of the time. You allow them to get healthy and prepare a month ahead of time? More like 95%.
They won’t have that luxury if they had to play 3 or 4 weekends in a row against decent teams. That’s what makes the NCAA basketball tournament so exciting. Even the blue bloods can get taken down on a routine basis.
And the fan interest would be incredible. Think if Alabama had to play Baylor and Ohio State and Georgia in a row?
A few things:
1. While there might be some upsets, it's not going to be like basketball. One great player (say Steph Curry at Davidson) can make a lot more difference in basketball than in football.
2. Most of the upsets that happen in bowl games happen when a team like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, or Ohio State ends up missing the playoff and then play a lesser team. The players and coaches of the elite teams don't really want to be playing and it's the biggest game the other team will ever play in.
3. Beyond all this, the biggest issue is injury risk. While it occasionally happens, the chances of getting injured playing in a basketball game are exponentially less than in a football game. Basketball programs might have a career-impacting injury happen to a player once every 5-10 years. Football teams probably have a guy tear an ACL 3-4 times a year. The college programs now play 13 games already if they make a conference title game. A 16-team playoff would add another 4 games to that for the two teams in the title game. A kid that goes to Bama or OSU for even 3 years would now be playing 50 college games. Some 5-star WR or RB that is a top 10 NFL pick is risking 10s of millions playing already. Before 2006, you only played 11 games plus a bowl. Now it's 12, plus a conference title game, plus the playoffs (up to 15). It could be 17. So, in 15 years the number of games has gone up ~50%. If they do this, the colleges should insure future earnings of the players against injury.