Bad Coaching Clarity

Agree to the extent that they blew contain. However, AJ Hawk has to stay as deep as the deepest receiver until Ryan crosses the line of scrimmage. If Hawk doesn't commit as soon as Ryan rolls out, at worst Ryan runs for a first down. Hawk messed up an assignment that high schoolers are taught.

Big assumption there.

 

 

I rest my case.

As much as I'd like to bash Pete Carroll, I'd rather just give credit to Malcolm Butler for making a great play.  His pre-snap alignment was perfect, he was close enough where he could make a play on the ball but backed off far enough where he wasn't going to get messed up in the trash that was happening in front of him.  He anticipated the play perfectly and did a great job coming away with the ball.  He played the position exactly how it should be played.  Great job by him. 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/fea...-wasnt-pete-carroll/

 

Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:

 

 That was a safe play call sabotaged by Favre losing his mind. Shoot, if Brent just runs right to the sideline he gains at least 2-3 yards. Or just throw it away out of bounds since he's out of the pocket.

 

That's a fair point, but Favre had a well established big-spot-at-end-of-a-playoff-game meltdown ratio by that point in his career. He'd done it multiple times.  He'd also taken a hellacious beating that day.

 

 

I think  he was even knocked out of the game at one point.  Meanwhile AP was 24 at the time, already had 122 yards rushing and was averaging nearly 5 yards a carry.  Wish that gamedaythread was still around.           

I agree Browner makes this play…he holds Kearse and prevents the pick on Butler..

But that was about coaching…Worst play call I have ever seen…they easily have time for two Lynch runs, then a timeout and an opportunity to allow Wilson options on the last play of the game.

Wilson is short, the chances of a tipped ball at the line is so high on that route that he had to throw high to the receiver….three things can happen with a pass,,,and I don't like two of them….said many a wishbone coach..

 

You can rail on Hawk for his miscue on the fake field goal, but again that is coaching….Impossible that they did not use  a formation to stop an offensive play…no way is Pete Carroll kicking that field goal. Show the proper defense, Seahawks call time out before the kick and go for it….was it 4th and 8? maybe they get it, but if they don't the game is clearly over.

 

 

This.

That play was a perfect storm of clusterf**k for the Seahawks. For as many things that could go wrong, there was just as many that could have gone right. But the call and  poor execution doomed it from the start.

However, the same thing that burned us on the fake FG was the same thing that burned them on this play. Film study and recognizing tendencies. By an UDFA no less.

 

"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting."

 

The difference between the Packers & Seahawks is this:

The Seahawks get their 1 yard and it is easy to see that once the smoke clears.

The Packers are still working on their 1 yard and the cloud of dust part. 

 

However, they are the same in that neither gave themselves a chance to win because they went away from the stuff that got them there. 

Even if the receiver catches the ball, the hit Butler put on him would have kept him from scoring. Either way, great play by Butler

From PFT:

Then came Sunday night’s “outlier” of a play call, with the coaching staff taking the ball out of the reliable hands of Lynch on the doorstep of a second straight Super Bowl win and directing Wilson to throw into a 15-yard box in which 21 other players were blocking, running, and jostling.  Right or wrong, reasonable or not (especially since the coaches had given the ball to Lynch on first and goal from the five), some players will view the fateful decision as the latest attempt to glorify the golden child.

“That’s what it looked like,” an unnamed Seahawk told Mike Silver of NFL Media after the game regarding the perception that the coaching staff opted to showcase Wilson over Lynch with a repeat on the line.

http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...ent-back-into-focus/

Imploding like their former stadium.

Gutsy - ballsy

 

Funny how some are defending the pass call and putting it on the players / lack of execution.

Thing is, as a leader you need to understand the abilities of your team and put your players in the best position / situation to succeed. This is why Carroll and Bevell failed the Seahawks. They aren't a quick slant team.

Bad things happen when good coaches overthink things. Never try and outsmart everyone. 

 

Fun internet facts:

 

Seattle ran 19 plays inside the 3 yard line in 2014.

11 of them were handoffs to Lynch resulting in 5 TDS

2 of them were Wilson read option keepers resulting in Wilson scoring untouched both times.

6 passes resulted in 3 completions, one sack, and two scores. One to Turbin on a swing pass and one to TE Moeaki. 

 

Thats 7 TDs on 13 running plays vs 2 TDs on 6 throws. And the SB would have been the first time all year a WR caught a pass for a TD in a short yardage situation. 

 

And yes, I'm quickly becoming one of the truthers that think Seattle was going to do everything possible to make Wilson the shining star of the SB. 

So MM is trying to make Kuhn a star?

That's just a case of trying to be the smartest guy in the room 

Silly, Kuhn is a star 'cause he has a great name to cheer. 

And he IS a 2X Pro-Bowler.

 

 

I saw an espn stat that said Wilson was the first QB in NFL History to throw an INT from the 1yd line.

Umm no.  It was the first INT from the 1 yard line this season.

Right, pretty sure Favre did it first.

 

 

But he was just a big kid having fun

And Brett threw his into triple coverage. 

To be fair, he made it through 2 of those 3 coverages though.  ;-)

On making Wilson the hero, maybe it was the opposite.  Now the SB Goat, Wilson might be cheaper to re-sign this off-season.  :-)

 

Though I think that Lockette shares equal, if not greater blame.  I really think he ran a lazy route.  WRs need to be tough to the ball, got get it, don't wait for it.

espn stat was wrong?  get out!