I like Tom Allen. Doing a pretty good job at a coach killing school.
It won’t last. Just let Fleck won’t last. Their tactics are short sighted. Indiana had a senior and junior loaded team. They benefitted from playing in empty stadiums against teams hurt or impacted by COVID. I’m not impressed. And his cheesy over the top junior high school yelling and screaming jumped the shark years ago.
Maybe Indiana will claim a divisional conference championship like Minnesota did last year.
If these teams play under normal conditions 100 times Indiana might win 3 or 4 times. Even with the antics and refs in their pocket.
Put an asterisk on this year in the Big Ten and Wisconsin will go back to pounding those wannabees by 50.
That being said, Wisconsin should ask Paul Chryst to repay his salary for this season. He’s been atrocious in just about any aspect of coaching or leading this year.
@Pikes Peak posted:I’m hoping we can get to 10
We didn't.
@Pikes Peak posted:I like Tom Allen. Doing a pretty good job at a coach killing school.
He's from Indiana, so maybe he stays. But I think he's likely to get hired by some SEC or Big 12 school. His stock is never going to be higher.
As Tschack said, a lot of the blue blood Big 10 programs are going to circle Indiana on their schedules next year and aren't going to be shy about running up the score. It might be a good time to get out if you are Allen. Your stock is never going to be higher.
@Tschmack posted:It won’t last. Just let Fleck won’t last. Their tactics are short sighted. Indiana had a senior and junior loaded team. They benefitted from playing in empty stadiums against teams hurt or impacted by COVID. I’m not impressed. And his cheesy over the top junior high school yelling and screaming jumped the shark years ago.
Maybe Indiana will claim a divisional conference championship like Minnesota did last year.
If these teams play under normal conditions 100 times Indiana might win 3 or 4 times. Even with the antics and refs in their pocket.
Put an asterisk on this year in the Big Ten and Wisconsin will go back to pounding those wannabees by 50.
That being said, Wisconsin should ask Paul Chryst to repay his salary for this season. He’s been atrocious in just about any aspect of coaching or leading this year.
Not sure that PC needs to repay his salary but he has been less than impressive this year. I swear you could put a mirror under his nose and it would not steam up. Fleck and Allen do go too far too often but an occasional outburst does have its place.
You mean the mask he taped to his face? I mean, cmon now.
It’s such a screwed up year in so many respects PC deserves a pass but holy crap they haven’t looked well prepared or played inspired for weeks now. It’s shocking.
Fleck got a reality check this year and that includes taking a powder against NW and UW and Indiana is trending the same way. You pull that Mickey Mouse horseshit in opposing stadiums you’re damn right they will come gunning for you. Enjoy it while it lasts Hoosier fans. Just like the Goofs it will be short lived.
A loss to Iowa should mean no bowl game. This whole year was hot garbage anyway. Bring on mid-2021 and a semblance of normalcy.
Not going to win many games scoring six points and the offense once again came up short. Mertz had Dike open for the potentially tying TD if he isn't late with the ball.
Really frustrating year.
He was open but the Indiana defender was grabbing his arm so not sure he makes the catch anyway.
The officiating was awful in that game and clearly were favoring Indiana.
In the end, them winning or not winning really doesn’t matter because the 2020 season is a total mess and not sure you can really draw any meaningful conclusions given lack of games and timing and all the other issues and distractions. I mean, it tells you a lot when Michigan and Penn State and Wisconsin and Michigan State look worse than NW and Indiana and even Rutgers at times. Just need to get the season over with and move on to 2021.
Most Badger problems this year are due to lack of consistency. Coan is the starting QB, gets injured. Mertz is the starter, gets covid. Then no games for 2 weeks, then games but Mertz doesn't look as good as good as the 1st game. Game cancelled again. Just a complete lack of rhythm in players, practice games. For a young team , that is not a winning formula.
Well for me its kind of the same story year after year. If UW gets lots of press, has high expectations, and gets highly ranked they will consistently crap the bed.
I am pretty happy with how the defense has played but the offense? damn is the only word I have.
But as ammo said its a tough deal to start the season, stop the season, your QB gets COVID so he misses valuable practice time, etc. So I am more inclined to cut the program some slack this year.
@The Heckler posted:Well for me its kind of the same story year after year. If UW gets lots of press, has high expectations, and gets highly ranked they will consistently crap the bed.
I am pretty happy with how the defense has played but the offense? damn is the only word I have.
But as ammo said its a tough deal to start the season, stop the season, your QB gets COVID so he misses valuable practice time, etc. So I am more inclined to cut the program some slack this year.
I agree with all of this, but there is also the fact that this is the first year in a while where they don't have a RB that is a sure-fire NFL player. While all offensive plays require chemistry and reps to be optimally executed, the passing game requires a lot more timing and coordination than a power running game. Their power running game is really a shadow of what it usually is.
If J. Taylor had come back this year they'd be undefeated right now. The Badger offense has always been designed to wear the other team down with the running game and it works best when the OL clears holes for the RB to get 4-5 yards and get isolated on a DB. When that RB is J. Taylor, Melvin Gordon, James White, or Monte Ball, the odds are pretty good that at least 3-4 times a game they make that DB miss and those solid gains rupture into huge plays. Watson appears he will never have that ability and Jalen Berger has a chance to be that type of guy, but he's not there yet (reps against the non-conference schedule would have really helped there). The result is that they don't get that chunk play to make things easier during a drive. It also weakens the effectiveness of play-action.
The other problem is that they've been missing Danny Davis and several other WRs the last two games.
The combination of a lack of a home run hitter at RB and a lack of available talent at WR turns their offense into a slog where they often have to convert 3rd and moderate (4-6 yards) rather than 3rd and short (or move the chains before getting to third down) which, in practice, means that it's Jake Ferguson or bust for the conversion.
So much in college football is based off momentum and emotion and for the Badgers to play in an empty home stadium it’s a big advantage for any road team. In the last dozen or so years the Badgers have won 85%+ of their home games. Until this year, PC has only had 5 home losses.
In a close game like we saw v Indiana that normal home crowd energy may have put them over the top.
Indiana is the better team, I'm comfortable saying that. Their back up QB outplayed ours. Outside of an IU WR dropping the easiest pass ever (MVS would have caught it 8 out of 10 times), Bucky still played it close.
Both the hoops squad and football team are really good and the needle still points up.
The Indiana team has way more experience, that’s for sure. 16 of their 22 starters are either juniors or seniors. The Badgers are solid at OL and DL in terms of overall experience - can’t count the WRs because outside of the Illinois game they’ve been hurt.
The good news is Badgers have recruited very well and several of their young guys like Jalen Berger and Graham Mertz and Nick Herbig and Chimere Dike and Leo Chenal and CJ Goetz look really promising and will only get better.
I’m not too worried about the future, but I worry that they wasted a year of eligibility for some key guys in this ridiculous attempt at a season.
Didn’t the NCAA rule that this year doesn’t count against eligibility. I know most seniors aren’t coming back, but I think the door is open.
if they hadn’t played this year many would have left anyhow.
Yeah, I’m not sure on that. I know players could opt out and that might not count as a year, but not sure about if they played?