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Thats ok FEDYA     shame on the NFL  for putting such a worthless product over the air. Whichever broadcasting company carried the game should be furious with the NFL.  I did the same thing BIGDOGGYJUDE did when I saw the number go from 2 1/2 SF  to 1 1/2 Oak  I couldn't change my pick fast enough. If a team is going to TANK this early in the season,  for draft picks,  the NFL should step in and take away those draft picks. 

Don’t agree that Jordy is done. Derek Carr just sucks. Carr has had a great OL. Incredible stable of recievers. Marshawn Lynch. And Carr just keeps regressing. Carr looks unfixable now. He’s broken. 

Probably not the way Jordy envisioned his NFL career ending. But glad he got the retirement package he did. He certainly earned it. 

Fandame posted:

If Carr is broke, Gruden is the faux mechanic. He has taken a team and QB on the upswing and made it the black-and-silver tarpits. I wonder how long the Gruden experiment will last and what players will say when he’s gone. Unless there’s a huge turnaround, Gruden may be coaching high school ball soon.

Or ends up in the booth.  

What year is it?

ChilliJon posted:

Derek Carr just sucks. Carr has had a great OL. Incredible stable of recievers. Marshawn Lynch. And Carr just keeps regressing. Carr looks unfixable now. He’s broken. 

Probably not the way Jordy envisioned his NFL career ending. But glad he got the retirement package he did. He certainly earned it. 

Completely disagree

ChilliJon posted:

Carr has had a great OL. Incredible stable of recievers. Marshawn Lynch. And Carr just keeps regressing. Carr looks unfixable now. He’s broken. 

"HAD" being the key word in that sentence.

O-Line sucks in Oakland right now. 7 sacks allowed to the Niners?? They had like 10 all season coming into this game. Gruden is doing to Carr what Houston did to Carr's brother. **** Grunden. He's a POS & has never done anything in the NFL except coach Favre & win a Super Bowl with a team that Dungy built while knowing exactly what plays were being called on the Oakland sideline. Color me unimpressed. 

You need to go back & look at 2016 film. Nothing wrong with Carr that a good O-Line & receivers can't fix. 

1 more thing....come home Reggie McKenzie. Gutey has a job for you before you get your next GM gig.

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