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If you have direct TV, you can get it free by demanding it with your package.  I have to do it every year which is a pain the ass, but it’s worth it.

I've had directv since 95. Installed my own dish because you had to back then, but the NFL has made it less desirable to spend my money to watch. I watched every game through the kean times, my mom sent me vhs tapes while I was in the Air Force in the early 80"s. Had season tickets for about 15 years when they started seat licenses and got single seats. My wife and I went even though we were 7 rows apart. Eventually got seats 1 row apart so we could sit together. Then Murphy came along and everything became unaffordable and I turned my tickets in.

I've had directv since 95. Installed my own dish because you had to back then, but the NFL has made it less desirable to spend my money to watch. I watched every game through the kean times, my mom sent me vhs tapes while I was in the Air Force in the early 80"s. Had season tickets for about 15 years when they started seat licenses and got single seats. My wife and I went even though we were 7 rows apart. Eventually got seats 1 row apart so we could sit together. Then Murphy came along and everything became unaffordable and I turned my tickets in.

Installed my own in 1995 as well. Had the Sony setup. I wanted the receiver with the RF-controlled remote but the FCC decided to make them do more testing so my first receiver was an infrared remote only.

When I moved in 2009 I gave up DirecTV.

@D J posted:

Installed my own in 1995 as well. Had the Sony setup. I wanted the receiver with the RF-controlled remote but the FCC decided to make them do more testing so my first receiver was an infrared remote only.

When I moved in 2009 I gave up DirecTV.

My wife didn't want to go to  the bar anymore andi I went to best buy on Saturday of the season and installed to WA TY h the game on Sunday.

I can save a lot of money by not watching. I don't live in Wisconsin and streaming isn't worth the hassle. And the NFLFU is going to Thursday night games on Amazon Prime. Fuck the NFL

This was the first year I bought no variation of Sunday ticket in 20 years.The past 4-5 years we got the faculty/student discount for $99/season. I think I had to stream maybe 4 games this year and it's relatively simple and vg quality now.  The rest were carried nationally. There are ways around forking over the ridiculous full ST cost.

@michiganjoe posted:

I was a relentless critic of Stafford when he was with the Lions but it is what it is: in crunch time with the game on the line he made the necessary plays (and the NFL MVP didn't).

Wonder if it had anything do with with all that talent around him.  Of course not.

@michiganjoe posted:

I was a relentless critic of Stafford when he was with the Lions but it is what it is: in crunch time with the game on the line he made the necessary plays (and the NFL MVP didn't).

Stafford is used to playing from behind and doing garbage time.  He just channeled it against the Bucs and the Rams to victories this time.

The worst part about the Rams winning and Bucs winning last year is that the NFL is now going to become the NBA (even more than it is).  We're going to see teams going all in on "superstars" trying to buy a Super Bowl.

I would expect in the future players will sign shorter contracts or try to force their way out of them or into trades and that one or two teams every year will be the "it" team that all the big players want to go play for.  It will be gross and stupid but that's where we are now.

it was a competitive game, that was enjoyable. I thought the Rams would win by 10,  that surprised me

The Badger linemen had a pretty rough game, that surprised me.

Why wasn't Mixon in the game in the final series? that surprised me.

Collingsworth is making a run at becoming  more grating than Aikman, that is no  surprise.

The NFL is about as woke as a Desantis press conference. Having BJK open with talk of the  title 9 from the 70s (They probably would have had Susan B Anthony discuss the 19th amendment if she would have been available) and a halftime show of  aging has-been rappers lypsyncing to old lyrics isn't what I'd call cutting edge social awakening...  I did like the choreography--the Dre Day dancers were cool: that surprised me.

Would that necessarily be bad?  If the complaint is QBs take up too much of the cap then teams aren't tied to them long term.  You can make your 1st round QB picks, let them develop for a couple years and step in when superstar contract is done.  Then hope and pray your QB on his rookie contract can help win you a Super Bowl. 

Sure you have idiot teams that give huge guaranteed contracts to middling QBs like Cousins.  Doesn't mean every team has to be as stupid.

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@vitaflo posted:

The worst part about the Rams winning and Bucs winning last year is that the NFL is now going to become the NBA (even more than it is).  We're going to see teams going all in on "superstars" trying to buy a Super Bowl.

I would expect in the future players will sign shorter contracts or try to force their way out of them or into trades and that one or two teams every year will be the "it" team that all the big players want to go play for.  It will be gross and stupid but that's where we are now.

Already started. Just look at OBJ. Sucked so bad that Cleveland gave up. Was it on purpose? Then all the lobbying from teams (Packers included ) for him to come play for them. He went to the "Star studded team"



Imagine if Rodgers doesn't sign an extension and played out his last year in GB and becomes a FA. He won't go to Jacksonville or Miami for $$$ He'd go where a team is loaded everywhere except QB.

@Packiderm posted:

Already started. Just look at OBJ. Sucked so bad that Cleveland gave up. Was it on purpose? Then all the lobbying from teams (Packers included ) for him to come play for them. He went to the "Star studded team"



Imagine if Rodgers doesn't sign an extension and played out his last year in GB and becomes a FA. He won't go to Jacksonville or Miami for $$$ He'd go where a team is loaded everywhere except QB.

So trade him now.

The NFL is now trending towards becoming like the NBA where you are increasingly just cheering for laundry because the players move around so much. The 2021 Bucks were different, but in the previous 4 years the best players for the teams that won had only been with their teams a short time.

2020 - Lakers (AD and Lebron were there less than 2 years)

2019 - Kawhi played less than a season for the Raptors

2018 and 2017 - Durant for the Warriors

The 2021 Super Bowl champion Rams had a QB that has played less than 10% of his career games with the Rams. Their first TD pass was caught by a guy who Harden'd his way off the Browns mid-season (OBJ). A guy that played 8 of his 150 games with the Rams has 2 sacks (Von Miller). Their best CB Harden'd his way out of Jacksonville a couple of years ago (Ramsey). Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp are exceptions, but they don't win without importing a bunch of mercenaries.

The 2020 Bucs obviously imported Brady and Gronk to win their title. Let's just say they will never be thought of as Tampa Bay guys.

The whole atmosphere last night perfectly captured what the NFL wanted with a team in LA. A 5 billion dollar stadium with no real hard-core Rams fans. It makes sense there aren't hard-core Rams fans because the team was in St. Louis from 1995-2015. The "hard-core" Rams fans they showed are celebrity bandwagon fans that moved to LA because after the became celebrities.

The whole thing seemed artificial and the celebration was very muted. If the Bengals would have won, Cincinnati fans would have genuinely happy after investing decades rooting for the Bengals. No one in LA really gives a shit about the Rams, but the networks love selling the personalities and the spectacle.

Stafford is still making the same boneheaded mistakes that he did in Detroit, he's just got a much larger margin for error now. Am a little surprised to see him play so well in critical game situations.

@michiganjoe posted:

Stafford is still making the same boneheaded mistakes that he did in Detroit, he's just got a much larger margin for error now. Am a little surprised to see him play so well in critical game situations.

It was interesting that when it got to crunch time, Stanford's strategy was to just throw the ball to Kupp no matter what the coverage was. I would bet other guys were more open on some of those throws, but it worked. It was the same thing Rodgers did in crunch time with Adams, but it didn't work. Probably because it's easier to throw into double teams when it's 75 degrees warmer.

That’s one rule after all these years of watching football I still don’t understand.  Why does the clock still run after going out of bounds, versus stopping after going out of bounds?

Clock stops the last 5 minutes of each half. For the rest of the game it keeps running if you go OOB.

@RapSheet·

4m#Rams WR Odell Beckham Jr is believed to have torn his ACL in last night’s Super Bowl win, source said. That means a long road of recovery for the free agent, who has a challenge to be ready for 2022. Beckham had 2 catches for 52 yards, 1 TD and 1 moonwalk before the injury.

@PackerHawk posted:

Clock stops the last 5 minutes of each half. For the rest of the game it keeps running if you go OOB.

I also recently learned something, although I don't know if it applies in this situation, but if a player is moving forward when going out of bounds the clock stops, but if moving backwards it doesn't.  I don't know about lateral movement. 

@packerboi posted:

@RapSheet·

4m#Rams WR Odell Beckham Jr is believed to have torn his ACL in last night’s Super Bowl win, source said. That means a long road of recovery for the free agent, who has a challenge to be ready for 2022. Beckham had 2 catches for 52 yards, 1 TD and 1 moonwalk before the injury.

Something tells me Beckham doesn't give a shit.

The NFL is now trending towards becoming like the NBA where you are increasingly just cheering for laundry because the players move around so much. The 2021 Bucks were different, but in the previous 4 years the best players for the teams that won had only been with their teams a short time.

2020 - Lakers (AD and Lebron were there less than 2 years)

2019 - Kawhi played less than a season for the Raptors

2018 and 2017 - Durant for the Warriors

The 2021 Super Bowl champion Rams had a QB that has played less than 10% of his career games with the Rams. Their first TD pass was caught by a guy who Harden'd his way off the Browns mid-season (OBJ). A guy that played 8 of his 150 games with the Rams has 2 sacks (Von Miller). Their best CB Harden'd his way out of Jacksonville a couple of years ago (Ramsey). Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp are exceptions, but they don't win without importing a bunch of mercenaries.

The 2020 Bucs obviously imported Brady and Gronk to win their title. Let's just say they will never be thought of as Tampa Bay guys.

The whole atmosphere last night perfectly captured what the NFL wanted with a team in LA. A 5 billion dollar stadium with no real hard-core Rams fans. It makes sense there aren't hard-core Rams fans because the team was in St. Louis from 1995-2015. The "hard-core" Rams fans they showed are celebrity bandwagon fans that moved to LA because after the became celebrities.

The whole thing seemed artificial and the celebration was very muted. If the Bengals would have won, Cincinnati fans would have genuinely happy after investing decades rooting for the Bengals. No one in LA really gives a shit about the Rams, but the networks love selling the personalities and the spectacle.

Oh man I see all of your points about the NFL going the way of the NBA.  I used to love the NBA but I can't stomach it anymore mostly because the league seems to want to have the "super teams".  I am hoping that isn't going to happen but I think it really is.  I can see how players would want to go to LA, Dallas, and Vegas for the glamor and to build a super team.  I think that could really become a challenge for teams such as GB to convince guys to come there but who knows.

I can save a lot of money by not watching. I don't live in Wisconsin and streaming isn't worth the hassle. And the NFLFU is going to Thursday night games on Amazon Prime. Fuck the NFL

I was wondering what the hell they were talking about on the radio when they said Al Michels got canned and he signed a new contract with Amazon Prime.  I was thinking, what the hell is he going to broadcast on Amazon Prime?  I wasn't aware Amazon Prime got the contract to stream Thursday night NFL.  That sucks.  I have Amazon Prime, but I don't like that move by the NFL.

This is bananas:



I can save a lot of money by not watching. I don't live in Wisconsin and streaming isn't worth the hassle. And the NFLFU is going to Thursday night games on Amazon Prime. Fuck the NFL

I was wondering what the hell they were talking about on the radio when they said Al Michels got canned and he signed a new contract with Amazon Prime.  I was thinking, what the hell is he going to broadcast on Amazon Prime?  I wasn't aware Amazon Prime got the contract to stream Thursday night NFL.  That sucks.  I have Amazon Prime, but I don't like that move by the NFL.

It won't be long all (5 -10 years) major pro sports will be PPV.   That is the only way they can keep up with the continually rising player salary demands.

That's part of it Henry.    But as the NFL slowly tranitions to all guarenteed contracts, ala MLB and NBA, the money will have to come from somewhere.  The networks can't continue with the crazy $$$$ contracts they have now.  Advertisers will draw the line.

@ammo posted:

That's part of it Henry.    But as the NFL slowly tranitions to all guarenteed contracts, ala MLB and NBA, the money will have to come from somewhere.  The networks can't continue with the crazy $$$$ contracts they have now.  Advertisers will draw the line.

With fans already saying NFLFU, ppv would be the end of the NFL. I know it would for me anyway.

From LATimes today:

No harm, no foul

Referee Ronald Torbert told a pool reporter that his crew “did not see any contact that warranted pass interference” on Bengals receiver Tee Higgins’ 75-yard touchdown pass to start the second half.

Higgins appeared to yank Rams cornerback Jalen Ramsey’s face mask before leaping for the ball at the Rams’ 37-yard line. Ramsey fell and Higgins essentially walked into the end zone for a 17-13 lead.

“Our rule is if there is a grab and twist and turn, there’s enough for a foul,” Torbert said. “If there’s just a rake across the face mask, where there’s not a twist and turn even if there’s a grab, there is no foul.

that wasn’t a twist and turn?

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