quote:Originally posted by PDXPackFan:
Did you know the Packers are the first team in NFL history to go 15-1 and lose the first round of the playoffs?
jus sayin'
Oh, that makes me feel MUCH better!
Oh, that makes me feel MUCH better!
Oh, that makes me feel MUCH better!
quote:Originally posted by PDXPackFan:quote:Originally posted by pduck:
I'm just glad we didn't go 16-0 in the regular season. It would have been that much worse to go undefeated in the regular season then one and done in the playoffs.
Did you know the Packers are the first team in NFL history to go 15-1 and lose the first round of the playoffs?
jus sayin'
Umm, how many 15-1 teams have there been? Not really that impressive/meaningful of a stat.
The defense (and Dom) never really did.
Step away from the ledge. We continued a streak of SB winners that didn't win a playoff game the next year. A streak that goes back to 2006 I think.
Twenty of the 32 teams don't make the playoffs. Eleven of the 12 that do suffer disappointing losses.
Good franchises are either competing for titles or preparing to compete for titles. The Packers are busy competing for titles.
Twenty of the 32 teams don't make the playoffs. Eleven of the 12 that do suffer disappointing losses.
Good franchises are either competing for titles or preparing to compete for titles. The Packers are busy competing for titles.
quote:Originally posted by Boston Jim:quote:Originally posted by San Doggy:
Seems like things always average out.Last year we scraped our way into the playoff at 10-6 and 6th seed. How many guys on the IR 15 ? Then run the table beat the top 3 seeds and win it all. This year 15-1, 1st seed, bye week,healthy team coming into the postseason, all the stars and planets aligned. And then fall flat on our face in the divisional round. Cudos to the Giants today but we also beat ourselves and here we are. This game is just like all our other playoff loses we endured after SB31 to winning SB45. It part of what we have to experience before we see the Pack win it all again.
Last year, Our defense was much better. I think our defense was rated #2 overall. This year the defense ranked 32 overall. Not good. I kinda knew the defense would ruin the playoffs.
Our defense didn't ruin the playoffs. Our offense, with it's 5 turnovers, ruined the playoffs.
As they so often seem to, the Giants did what they had to do when it mattered. Meanwhile, GB showed an alarming lack of fundamentals and concentration in all phases. Part of that might be due to the Philbin situation, but the bigger answer is that this team peaked two months ago and coasted through the rest of the schedule. The defense was a leaky dam that threatened to burst each week, and the edge they played with a year ago was long gone by the time they reached this game.
A 15-1 team going one-and-done? That's pitiful. All the gaudy stats were just a dazzling mirage.
GB's playoff record at Lambeau, 1961-2001: 11-0
Since then: 2-4
A 15-1 team going one-and-done? That's pitiful. All the gaudy stats were just a dazzling mirage.
GB's playoff record at Lambeau, 1961-2001: 11-0
Since then: 2-4
quote:Originally posted by CHEEZE:
I cannot help but think about Joe and his family right now.
I was thinkin about that too, he must feel really sad about now. Hopefully not.
I tried looking at life thru his eyes right when the game was ending, strange thing, I felt really sick about what he has to be going thru.
Packer game, season not so much right about then.
quote:GB's playoff record at Lambeau, 1961-2001: 11-0
Since then: 2-4
That's a sad stat indeed. The Lambeau playoff mystique is gone for sure.
quote:Originally posted by trump:quote:Originally posted by CHEEZE:
I cannot help but think about Joe and his family right now.
I was thinkin about that too, he must feel really sad about now. Hopefully not.
I tried looking at life thru his eyes right when the game was ending, strange thing, I felt really sick about what he has to be going thru.
Packer game, season not so much right about then.
That's the perspective right there.
quote:Originally posted by CitizenDan:
As they so often seem to, the Giants did what they had to do when it mattered. Meanwhile, GB showed an alarming lack of fundamentals and concentration in all phases. Part of that might be due to the Philbin situation, but the bigger answer is that this team peaked two months ago and coasted through the rest of the schedule. The defense was a leaky dam that threatened to burst each week, and the edge they played with a year ago was long gone by the time they reached this game.
A 15-1 team going one-and-done? That's pitiful. All the gaudy stats were just a dazzling mirage.
Yup... im laying most if not all that on the coaches
Coaches, players, Ted and the fans. We are all to blame.
I know I feel bad about making my 13000th post before the game....definitely brought bad karma.
It's hard to believe that its been 4 years since we won a playoff game at Lambeau. The Packers played their worst game of the season today. Just can't keep doing this at Lambeau in January.
For me this loss isn't even in the top 5.
1. Super Bowl 32. Felt like I was hit by a truck.
2. 1998 playoff loss at San Fran. We were clearly the better team. The refs screwed us. (Rice fumble not called.)
3. 2007 NFC Championship. Good by TOG. A-Rod would have won that game.
4. 2003? 4th and 26. Need I say more.
5. 1995 loss @ Cowboys. We had them beat until the chop block that took out Jurkovic and our ability to stop the run.
1. Super Bowl 32. Felt like I was hit by a truck.
2. 1998 playoff loss at San Fran. We were clearly the better team. The refs screwed us. (Rice fumble not called.)
3. 2007 NFC Championship. Good by TOG. A-Rod would have won that game.
4. 2003? 4th and 26. Need I say more.
5. 1995 loss @ Cowboys. We had them beat until the chop block that took out Jurkovic and our ability to stop the run.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
That's a pleasant trip down memory lane. How about a nice holocaust movie and some ecstasy instead?[/QUOTE
LMAO!!!!!
That's a pleasant trip down memory lane. How about a nice holocaust movie and some ecstasy instead?[/QUOTE
LMAO!!!!!
Yeah after reading that maybe I'll watch Shindlers List to cheer myself up.
The Offense is a warm weather team attempting to play in 20 degree weather. Two reliable WRs tonight the oldest(Driver) and the youngest(Cobb).
The defense is offensive.
The defense is offensive.
quote:For me this loss isn't even in the top 5.
1. Super Bowl 32. Felt like I was hit by a truck.
2. 1998 playoff loss at San Fran. We were clearly the better team. The refs screwed us. (Rice fumble not called.)
3. 2007 NFC Championship. Good by TOG. A-Rod would have won that game.
4. 2003? 4th and 26. Need I say more.
5. 1995 loss @ Cowboys. We had them beat until the chop block that took out Jurkovic and our ability to stop the run.
Actually, this one hurts a lot! I'd rank it 3rd after the 4th and 26 play. We are the better team. We mostly beat ourselves.
Agree. That 4th and 26th defense was riding on a wing and a prayer. This team was a machine this year and it got owned all day today.
I was far more annoyed, frustrated, and PO'd when they lost on the 4th and 26 game and the Brent 2007 game and TO 1998 catch game- because of how they inexplicably lost those games.
This game was different. It was really a beatdown from start to finish, so while I am disappointed it feels differently than some of those other games mentioned.
The other thing I keep going back to is that they won a Superbowl last year against all odds- and this year they failed miserably in the playoffs despite having all the breaks and odds in their favor. Guess it really does all even out.
Still would have liked to see them at least advance one round. Lambeau hasn't been a homefield advantage for this team in 15 years now.
This game was different. It was really a beatdown from start to finish, so while I am disappointed it feels differently than some of those other games mentioned.
The other thing I keep going back to is that they won a Superbowl last year against all odds- and this year they failed miserably in the playoffs despite having all the breaks and odds in their favor. Guess it really does all even out.
Still would have liked to see them at least advance one round. Lambeau hasn't been a homefield advantage for this team in 15 years now.
GB didn't come to play. I think the 3 week layoff hurt Rodgers.
Get 'em next year.
Get 'em next year.
quote:Originally posted by San Doggy:
Yeah after reading that maybe I'll watch Shindlers List to cheer myself up.
This is the only list that's gonna cheer me up.
quote:Originally posted by Tschmack:
This game was different. It was really a beatdown from start to finish, so while I am disappointed it feels differently than some of those other games mentioned.
Yep. Heck, they may have even gotten beat by a better team. Think about it:
Edge (IMO):
QB: Pack
RB: NYG
WR: Pack
OL: NYG
ST: NYG
DL: NYG
LB: Pack
DB: NYG
quote:Originally posted by Pack-Man:
Having a 9-7 team that gave up 400+ points in the regular season come into your stadium and punch your 15-1 team in the mouth is far worse.
In all fairness to the Giants, a good number of their losses came when they had quite a few players out with injuries, not on IR, but out. At beginning of the season I thought they were going to have a really bad year. You have to give them credit for turning it around and playing through the injuires, much like we did last year.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Coaches, players, Ted and the fans. We are all to blame.
MITTENS!!
I know this thread is going to get nuked so I'll vent this thought here.
The Packers need to take some time and decide who's best to lead this defense in 2012. I can not comprehend how you get to the divisional round and there are so many communication breakdowns in the secondary.
Watching the game yesterdy. It looked like Woodson decided to freelance a bit and left guy's but no one else knew he was handing them off. Given the time Eli had it was simply a matter of waiting for someone to be alone. I don't want to single out Woodson becasue a couple of guy's did it. Maybe this is how the secondary has been coached up. Take some chances, freelance a bit, and look for the turnover. But that strategy only works if you apply pressure on the QB to force him to get the ball out before he's ready.
Bottom line, draft, FA, or trade the Packers need a DE and an OLB.
The Packers need to take some time and decide who's best to lead this defense in 2012. I can not comprehend how you get to the divisional round and there are so many communication breakdowns in the secondary.
Watching the game yesterdy. It looked like Woodson decided to freelance a bit and left guy's but no one else knew he was handing them off. Given the time Eli had it was simply a matter of waiting for someone to be alone. I don't want to single out Woodson becasue a couple of guy's did it. Maybe this is how the secondary has been coached up. Take some chances, freelance a bit, and look for the turnover. But that strategy only works if you apply pressure on the QB to force him to get the ball out before he's ready.
Bottom line, draft, FA, or trade the Packers need a DE and an OLB.
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
For me this loss isn't even in the top 5.
1. Super Bowl 32. Felt like I was hit by a truck.
2. 1998 playoff loss at San Fran. We were clearly the better team. The refs screwed us. (Rice fumble not called.)
3. 2007 NFC Championship. Good by TOG. A-Rod would have won that game.
4. 2003? 4th and 26. Need I say more.
5. 1995 loss @ Cowboys. We had them beat until the chop block that took out Jurkovic and our ability to stop the run.
I was feeling better before I saw this, Ammo. Thanks!
This game would feel much worse to me if we had not just won the Superbowl last season.
**** the great Tom Brady and the patriots have not even won a playoff game in like 4 years until this weekend.
Despite 15-1 we were not "hot' nor were we clicking on all cylindars this year. Someone replaced Tramon with Tyrone Williams and we never had a consistent pass rush.
Don't even get me started on all the dummies who complained about Nick Collins.
Remember the queens choke job a number of years ago after a 15-1 regular season. Imagine what it would be like after a season like that and having never won one.
Today sure it feels like the number one suckiest...but in the grand scheme of suck it is probably somewhere in the top 3-5 for me.
**** the great Tom Brady and the patriots have not even won a playoff game in like 4 years until this weekend.
Despite 15-1 we were not "hot' nor were we clicking on all cylindars this year. Someone replaced Tramon with Tyrone Williams and we never had a consistent pass rush.
Don't even get me started on all the dummies who complained about Nick Collins.
Remember the queens choke job a number of years ago after a 15-1 regular season. Imagine what it would be like after a season like that and having never won one.
Today sure it feels like the number one suckiest...but in the grand scheme of suck it is probably somewhere in the top 3-5 for me.
quote:This game was different. It was really a beatdown from start to finish, so while I am disappointed it feels differently than some of those other games mentioned.
I may just be in denial, but I did not see a beat-down by the Giants. I give them credit. They played well and I think they must have had some great coverage in the secondary that caused problems.
But! a freak hail mary, 8 drops, 4 fumbles (including the one overturned). MM should not have gone for it on 4th down, or they never go back up by 10. We were just totally out of sync. We own 66% of the blame for the loss. I'll give the Giants the rest, but it was not a beat-down. They did not dominate us. They had no sacks till late in the game.
I'm affraid yesterday and unfortunately this year's team gets the label: CHOKE.
What this game, the '07 title game, and the Denver Super Bowl had in common was that in all three cases, it was clear from the start that nothing would come easy and that the supposedly inferior opponent was more than prepared for GB.
This one was especially disappointing in that an offense that made a trademark of pinpoint execution spent most of the day looking like they were playing together for the first time. For whatever reasons, their minds simply seemed to be elsewhere.
My GB playoff hall of shame:
* Most disappointing show of effort/discipline: @Dallas, 1994 (9-35); vs. NYG, 2011 (20-37); vs. Atl., 2002 (7-27)
* Most disappointing lack of preparation/coaching: vs. Den., 1997 (24-31); vs. Minn., 2004 (17-31); v. NYG, 2007 (20-23)
* Most obviously outclassed by the opposition: @St.L., 2001 (17-45); @Dal., 1993 (17-27); vs. Dal., 1995 (27-38)
* Most gut-wrenching ending: @Phila., 2003 (17-20); @S.F., 1998 (27-30); @Ariz., 2009 (45-51)
This one was especially disappointing in that an offense that made a trademark of pinpoint execution spent most of the day looking like they were playing together for the first time. For whatever reasons, their minds simply seemed to be elsewhere.
My GB playoff hall of shame:
* Most disappointing show of effort/discipline: @Dallas, 1994 (9-35); vs. NYG, 2011 (20-37); vs. Atl., 2002 (7-27)
* Most disappointing lack of preparation/coaching: vs. Den., 1997 (24-31); vs. Minn., 2004 (17-31); v. NYG, 2007 (20-23)
* Most obviously outclassed by the opposition: @St.L., 2001 (17-45); @Dal., 1993 (17-27); vs. Dal., 1995 (27-38)
* Most gut-wrenching ending: @Phila., 2003 (17-20); @S.F., 1998 (27-30); @Ariz., 2009 (45-51)
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:
Yep. Heck, they may have even gotten beat by a better team. Think about it:
Edge (IMO):
QB: Pack
RB: NYG
WR: Pack
OL: NYG
ST: NYG
DL: NYG
LB: Pack
DB: NYG
You giving analysis on either of these teams is like a proctologist giving a throat exam.
How about just stfu.
Yeam I'm still pissed off.
quote:Originally posted by Iowacheese:
Today sure it feels like the number one suckiest...but in the grand scheme of suck it is probably somewhere in the top 3-5 for me.
All along I thought about what would constitute a "good season" & I felt that getting to the NFC CG, even if they lost, I would've shrugged my shoulders and said, "Well, let's try again next year."
Losing this divisional game in this fashion when EVERY OTHER HOME TEAM WON, just pisses me off.
ammo,
I rank the SB loss the highest or perhaps tied with 1995 Cowboy loss. Packers were heavy favorites for that SB and it WAS a SB. Seeing Terrel Davis run roughshod against the Pack was just so painful. And we started off that game on such a roll. That first drive was awesome.
But, 1995. I had gotten to despise the Cowboys and always having the season end at Dallas.
I would put them at 1a and 1b.
I think I would put this loss slightly above or next to the 4th and 26. The way the Packers lost the Philly game was excruciating and by that time it was a few years since they won. But, this game - I don't remember a more subpar performance by a Packer team in the playoffs. (I'll give them the Ram game since I think Favre had deer in headlights due to how powerful the Rams seemed.)
Yeah, as I write this, I think I rate this 3rd worst or tied with the Philly loss.
The gauling thing about this loss is that it rates highest for me in terms of overall disappointment in the team's performance. I can't say that about the 1995 Cowboy game, for example. The only thing that comes close is the rush defense in the Bronco SB. To me, no other game rates with this one from that standpoint and that is one huge standpoint.
It's like they didn't even show up.
I rank the SB loss the highest or perhaps tied with 1995 Cowboy loss. Packers were heavy favorites for that SB and it WAS a SB. Seeing Terrel Davis run roughshod against the Pack was just so painful. And we started off that game on such a roll. That first drive was awesome.
But, 1995. I had gotten to despise the Cowboys and always having the season end at Dallas.
I would put them at 1a and 1b.
I think I would put this loss slightly above or next to the 4th and 26. The way the Packers lost the Philly game was excruciating and by that time it was a few years since they won. But, this game - I don't remember a more subpar performance by a Packer team in the playoffs. (I'll give them the Ram game since I think Favre had deer in headlights due to how powerful the Rams seemed.)
Yeah, as I write this, I think I rate this 3rd worst or tied with the Philly loss.
The gauling thing about this loss is that it rates highest for me in terms of overall disappointment in the team's performance. I can't say that about the 1995 Cowboy game, for example. The only thing that comes close is the rush defense in the Bronco SB. To me, no other game rates with this one from that standpoint and that is one huge standpoint.
It's like they didn't even show up.
quote:* Most gut-wrenching ending: @Phila., 2003 (17-20); @S.F., 1998 (27-30); @Ariz., 2009 (45-51)
I was at the game in AZ, and I could walk out holding my head high. Yesterday's game was a failure similar to SB32, and Atl in 2002.
Packers were a mash unit in the 2002 Falcon playoff.
quote:Originally posted by PDXPackFan:quote:Originally posted by pduck:
I'm just glad we didn't go 16-0 in the regular season. It would have been that much worse to go undefeated in the regular season then one and done in the playoffs.
Did you know the Packers are the first team in NFL history to go 15-1 and lose the first round of the playoffs?
jus sayin'
Didn't the Queens do that in 1998?
Nope. Queens waited until OT of the championship game.
The Giants out performed the PACKERS on both sides of the ball yesterday. The PACK played so poorly that I could believe there were several NFC teams that could have done the same.
"A fart in the wind"!
"A fart in the wind"!
DB= NY 
I could play CB with that DL. Only a fool would agree that the Giants secondary is better.
I could play CB with that DL. Only a fool would agree that the Giants secondary is better.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:
Yep. Heck, they may have even gotten beat by a better team. Think about it:
Edge (IMO):
QB: Pack
RB: NYG
WR: Pack
OL: NYG
ST: NYG
DL: NYG
LB: Pack
DB: NYG
You giving analysis on either of these teams is like a proctologist giving a throat exam.
How about just stfu.
Yeam I'm still pissed off.
wow dude...