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Originally posted by phaedrus:
Getting back to the original post, if the guy is stating the truth, he leans the defensive woes away from coaching and toward personnel...


It's always an eye-opener to see plays broken down and diagrammed. When watching the game live, it's hard not to follow the ball, and there's much that I can't see unless/until plays like those are broken down.

It's a bit harder to guage the overall performance within the context of these articles, but what it does show is football always comes down to the basics. No matter how complex a scheme, it still comes down to blocking and tackling. I think there's a lesson in there somewhere...
The defense has it's warts, but they are fixable warts none the less. Attention obviously needs to be focused on the middle of the defense, in particular the MLB position.

I will start to lose some confidence going forward if I start hearing the song and dance from the coaching staff about Hawk. The staff tends to paint a picture about how reliable he is and how he's the man at getting the defense lined up,etc. Yet, every year it's the same thing with the guy. He has zero instincts and makes zero plays.

He needs to be released and replaced IMO. Finding a stud S to play opposite Burnett would be nice too.
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Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
I don't get the completely embarrassed crap. The game was tied in the 3rd quarter.



I appreciate your trying to be positive(not a bad thing - really!); but, the Packers were very much dominated - a fact! No way we can spin out of that. I believe the entire team and coaching staff are at fault; however, the PAckers did have plenty of obstacles to over come this year.

Anyway, I have to wonder if the 3-4 is a better defense than the 4-3 against the read option, or does it not really matter? Just a question here - I am not making a statement.
31 teams end their season in failure and disappointment. Fans of those 31 teams do exactly what we're doing. The good news is this team we love is pretty damn good and really not that far away from winning another championship. It ain't easy boys and girls.
I do not disagree with you Pakrz, but what's a bit painful for me is the fact that we are so close as you pointed out, and da clock is ticking on AR's career. I would like to see at least one more SB for AR!!! Call me spoiled - I do not care, but please know I appreciate the fact that I am able to be spoiled.
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Originally posted by Esox:
I do not disagree with you Pakrz, but what's a bit painful for me is the fact that we are so close as you pointed out, and da clock is ticking on AR's career. I would like to see at least one more SB for AR!!! Call me spoiled - I do not care, but please know I appreciate the fact that I am able to be spoiled.


My comment wasn't directed at anybody, especially you. Just a comment in general. I think we as fans tend to lose sight of how difficult it is to actually win a championship, myself included. Sure, we need a few more pieces to the puzzle but they don't grow on trees and the salary cap plays a large role in building a team.

Trust me, nobody wants to see AR win a few more SB's than me... if for nothing else than to have more championships than Favre. You know, just to shove it up his ass a bit more. Big Grin

This team is really good, and they aren't too far away from being great. We just have to add a piece or two, get a few bounces and stay healthy. The problem is, part that of that equation (Bounces and health), has to do with luck. A lot of things have to fall into place to win the big one.
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Originally posted by Shoeless Joe:
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The problem is, part that of that equation (Bounces and health), has to do with luck and top-notch strength & conditioning. A lot of things have to fall into place to win the big one.


ftfy


http://ezinearticles.com/?2-To...l-Player!&id=3058384

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Check out the following 2 strength and conditioning exercises you can implement with this ancient tool to take your game to all new heights.

1. The Dual Kettlebell Clean, Squat, And Jerk: For this particular strength and conditioning drill you will need the availability of a pair of kettlebells of moderate resistance. Set the bells down between your feet. Properly perform a kettlebell clean racking the bells at your chest. Next, perform a front squat with the kettlebells. Now make sure you don't allow the bells to pull you forward and off balance. Stabilize your body and lower yourself enough to touch the insides of your knees with your elbows. Once you ascend explosively extend at your hips and knees to create the necessary momentum to press or jerk the kettlebells to a locked out position above your head.

2. The Dual Kettlebell See Saw Presses: For this exercise you will be concentrating on developing some Herculean shoulders. Once again properly clean the bells to your chest. Press one bell overhead. Now as you lower the first pressed bell start to press the second kettlebell before you allow the first bell to come to rest. You see the objective is to continuously alternate pressing the bells without allowing one to come to complete rest, hence the name see saw press. These exercises are perfect for any serious football player, but especially beneficial to the collegiate and NFL strength and conditioning programs! If you haven't included kettlebell training into your personal fitness and strength program then you are missing out. Remember that anyone can train hard, but only champions train smart my friend!

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3058384
Only 3 games left between 4 pretty good teams. 4 fan bases that have thoughts of winning the Lombardi. 3 of those fan bases are about to have those thoughts crushed and will be left wondering how things went so horribly wrong.
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Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
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Originally posted by Shoeless Joe:
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The problem is, part that of that equation (Bounces and health), has to do with luck and top-notch strength & conditioning. A lot of things have to fall into place to win the big one.


ftfy


http://ezinearticles.com/?2-To...l-Player!&id=3058384

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Check out the following 2 strength and conditioning exercises you can implement with this ancient tool to take your game to all new heights.

1. The Dual Kettleballs Clean, Squat, And Jerk: For this particular strength and conditioning drill you will need the availability of a pair of kettleballs of moderate resistance. Set the balls down between your feet. Properly perform a kettleballs clean racking the balls at your chest. Next, perform a front squat with the kettleballs. Now make sure you don't allow the balls to pull you forward and off balance. Stabilize your body and lower yourself enough to touch the insides of your knees with your elbows. Once you ascend explosively extend at your hips and knees to create the necessary momentum to press or jerk the kettleballs to a locked out position above your head.

2. The Dual Kettleballs See Saw Presses: For this exercise you will be concentrating on developing some Herculean shoulders. Once again properly clean the balls to your chest. Press one ball overhead (ouch!). Now as you lower the first pressed ball start to press the second kettleball before you allow the first balls to come to rest. You see the objective is to continuously alternate pressing the balls without allowing one to come to complete rest, hence the name see saw press. These exercises are perfect for any serious football player, but especially beneficial to the collegiate and NFL strength and conditioning programs! If you haven't included kettleballs training into your personal fitness and strength program then you are missing out. Remember that anyone can train hard, but only champions train smart my friend!

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3058384


HA HA HA I replaced 'bell' with 'balls'.
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Originally posted by Pakrz:
really not that far away from winning another championship


That's absolutely true. Unfortunately, it's absolutely true for about 10 teams in the NFC. It's the same thing Seahawks fans are saying. It's the same thing Falcons/49ers fans will say after this weekend, as well as Redskins fans. We joke about the Bears and Vikings, but I'm sure their fan base think they're close. The Saints and Giants have won 2 of the last three Super Bowls and they probably think there's just a thing or two to change.

I'm not worried about the offense. It was a much bigger struggle this year than the prior year, and there are some o-line concerns as well as some weapons that will go away. But they have #12, plenty of playmakers, and the oline shouldn't have to rely on two back-up tackles next year.

The defense, though, is still the fatal flaw of this team. At this point, it's hard to say teams like San Francisco and Seattle aren't better positioned b/c of what they have on the defensive side of the ball. Maybe that changes with another draft and guys returning from injury. I sure hope so.
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Originally posted by Pakrz:
The defense has it's warts, but they are fixable warts none the less. Attention obviously needs to be focused on the middle of the defense, in particular the MLB position.

I will start to lose some confidence going forward if I start hearing the song and dance from the coaching staff about Hawk. The staff tends to paint a picture about how reliable he is and how he's the man at getting the defense lined up,etc. Yet, every year it's the same thing with the guy. He has zero instincts and makes zero plays.

He needs to be released and replaced IMO. Finding a stud S to play opposite Burnett would be nice too.


I agree on Hawk. To paraphrase a quote Bill Walsh had about Steve DeBerg, Hawk is just good enough to get you beat. He won't embarrass you. He tries to everything he's asked and seems to be a good teammate and is well liked by the coaches, but he's just not good enough - at least with the teammates he has around him.

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Bill Walsh, the only San Francisco 49ers head coach of any significance, used to have a saying about Steve DeBerg, his starting quarterback before Joe Montana took over the reins for good halfway through the 1980 season.

DeBerg, he said, was “just good enough to get you beat.”

He wouldn’t ever embarrass you. He wouldn’t get you blown out. However, DeBerg had this maddening way of playing up or down to his level of competition, and always making a critical mistake, whether it be an interception, a fumble, or a more innocuous screw-up like a bad read or a poor throw to a wide open receiver.

By hook or by crook, the guy just found a way to lose, and eventually he sapped the confidence of the team around him as well. Walsh went 2-14 with DeBerg in 1979 and finally gave him the hook for good when Montana was ready.
Hawk's just a guy with middle-round talent and I agree it's time to go in another direction. Can't really fault TT because at the time it was viewed as a good and safe choice, but not getting anything more out of the #5 overall pick really hurt.
fwiw, I'm done with Hawk as well. turn the page please Ted.
and if Tramon won't tackle he can get on the same bus as AJ, but I'm willing to see what he's got in preseason before I just go cutting him for cap reasons.
I can't imagine Tramon getting cut either. He had some forgettable games but he also had some other games where he was outstanding.

Not sure he will ever return to the 2010 level of performance but he has been one of the better corners in the conference. I still wonder if his shoulder isnt ailing him. He has never been the same player since.
TW has 2 yrs left on his deal @ $7.4mm and $8.4mm... that's not over-paying for a top CB. I can't see him going anywhere before his current deal runs out. Of course, I also don't see the Packers taking a TE in the 1st or 2nd round so what do I know.
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Williams is due a $5.9 million base salary in 2013 (and $6.9 million in 2014). The Packers can’t afford to keep him at that number if he isn’t starting.


Disagree with this statement. Yeah Williams wasn't great All the time this year but that's not too much money for his services even if he's the rotational 4th DB.
If they didn't get rid of Sam Shields after the 2011 that he had, they won't get rid of Tramon for a couple bad games.

People forget that he played pretty well this season aside from the last couple games down the stretch. Remember how Capers played Tramon almost exclusively 1 on 1 with Calvin Johnson and Calvin Johnson had reasonably average days (for him)? Yeah Johnson had over 100 yards each time, but Tramon rarely had help. Remember when held Michael Crabtree under 100 yards in week 1? He also completely shut down Brandon Marshall. And Andre Johnson. And Victor Cruz. I'm not saying he was on those 100% of the time by himself, but he usually lines up against the other teams #1 the majority of the time and those guys had very average days. Yeah he pussed out against Adrian Peterson and Michael Crabtree got the best of him, but he's still a legit starting CB.
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Originally posted by phaedrus:
Getting back to the original post, if the guy is stating the truth, he leans the defensive woes away from coaching and toward personnel. He cites Burnett for onw pivotal play and says Raji played like complete crap.

Points more toward the players and less toward Capers.


Or you could say the players failed to understand or they were un-prepared for what they had to do in order to stop the offense.

The Packers coaching staff got their message across to the same players the weekend before when the held off Adrian Peterson and Webb. All of sudden these guys dont have the talent? Not buying it.

I think Capers and staff (and MM too) figured they needed to do little special prep to stop Colin K. I think they thought as a rookie, he could be rattled into playing poorly. Consequently, the "D" was caught flat-footed and during the half they were not able to make any adjustments because 15" wasnt enough to tell/show these guys what to do.

That muffed punt was a gift to the Niners and Colin K's confidence.

Raji playing poorly vs SF when he did so well the Saturday before could have just been coincidence or him just getting the right preparation from his coaches.
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Total View: Packers vs. 49ers, Playoff Edition
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8:06, 1st quarter — The Packers have been bad to start most games and great following the half this season, which has led me to wonder if the drive after the half is the one they actually script. Regardless, the Packers once again go three and out to start a game.

On 1st down, Aaron Rodgers finds Greg Jennings on a 7-yard hitch. On 2nd down, Rodgers fakes it to DuJuan Harris when he should have given it to him, and then throws it away in Harris’ general direction. On 3rd-and-3, Rodgers has all day to throw, but tries the well-covered quick out to John Kuhn, throwing it wide of the mark.

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11:50, 2nd quarter — The Packers force a relatively easy stop on 3rd-and-12 near midfield and have all the momentum with a 14-7 lead. This abruptly changes when Jeremy Ross muffs the following punt and the 49ers recover at the Packers’ 9-yard line.

The Packers defense was at least in position to force a field goal when the 49ers faced 3rd-and-goal from the 12. The Packers rushed just four again. There still is no spy, but at least this time they are wary of the scramble and are sitting in zone with everyone watching Kaepernick.

Well, almost everyone. Woodson follows Vernon Davis on the out and completely vacates the middle. Crabtree runs an in from the outside, catches a pass at the 11 and goes untouched for an easy score to make it 14-14. The fact that neither safety was anywhere near the play after lining up in the middle of the field doesn’t speak well for either of them.

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2:58, 3rd quarter — In an ominous sign for the Packers, their drive after the half is a three and out.

After two hard runs by Harris got 5 yards, the Packers faced 3rd-and-5 from their 32. The 49ers brought Patrick Willis and dropped Aldon Smith into coverage. The Packers have only James Jones not running a deep route and he ends up double covered by Smith and Brown.

Even though the 49ers are rushing four against six blockers, Willis beats Kuhn and sacks Rodgers. Given another second, Rodgers could have found Greg Jennings, who was breaking open deep down field.

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8:25, 3rd quarter — The Packers drive 76 yards in nine plays, but only get a field goal to tie the game at 24.

On 3rd-and-6, Rodgers strangely calls timeout while still in the huddle. The Packers would come back from the timeout, see a different defense from San Francisco and promptly false start to face 3rd-and-11.

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5:08, 3rd quarter — Needing a response, the Packers get one 1st down before having to punt it away.

Even though the Packers are only down one score at this point, this possession features six passing plays.

On 3rd-and-6 from the 41, the 49ers play that same defense, dropping seven and rushing four. However, the two deep look is a ruse. At the snap, Whitner rotates to the deep middle while Goldson jumps up to double Finley, who’s running the post from the slot. Even though Goldson, Whitner and Navarro Bowman have Finley triangulated, Rodgers, with plenty of time to throw, tries for Finley only to have Bowman knock it down.

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Kaepernick’s running was the key to the game. The 49ers had just one scoring drive that relied on him throwing the football — their second to last. Especially baffling is the first half plan that included not just a four-man rush and no spy, but also man-to-man coverage underneath with two deep safeties. This was an invitation for Kaepernick to run and he did — for a record 107 yards in just that half.

The Packers should show more balance with having DuJuan Harris for an entire season. Not only was his touchdown run impressive, but something virtually unnoticed from this game is that the Packers converted every short yardage situation they ran Harris on. The Packers may finally have an answer for 3rd-and-1 — an area they’ve struggled with for the last two seasons. continue
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Originally posted by Pikes Peak:
He was also on the Skp Bayless show this morning....one nugget, the D did not really work on the option before the Frisco game. He said the with Clay on one side and Walden on the other the D was well equiped to handle it with out any prep. Also, very few adjustments were drawn up at half time.

Not sure what he knows about the D or if he has it right but if true pretty damning I'd say.


If thats true, someone needs to be shown the door IMO ...

Either the guy at the top of the Defense is out of touch with reality, too arrogant or both .. OR someone beneath him said they could handle it.
Either way someone has to get the ax and I do not want to hear about knee-jerk reaction, this was a major idiotic miscalculation.

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