Brewers lead 5-2 in the top of the 6th. We are in a rain delay, again. The 3rd delay of this game. Why didn't the Twins put a retractable roof on Target Field, when they built it?
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Because the Minnesotans are a hardy, brave bunch.
Except in football.
So which 1st place team ain't going nowhere, Brewers or Twins?
@mrtundra posted:Twinks
Agreed. If the Brewers make the playoffs, they will have a chance against anyone because they can put Burnes and Woodruff out there for at least 3 starts in a 7 game series and have Hader closing games. The Twins don't have that level of elite pitching.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
Man, need some offense
Hader
All Star break can't come soon enough for Hader. Been a rough couple of weeks. Other than last night of course!
Damn ump couldn’t call a decent strike the last 2 innings. First pitch on the home run at-bat was a low strike not called. Hader had to move his next pitch up and…boom.
So I think I have a decent knowledge of baseball, so help me out here. Having your closer pitch in a tie game in the 9th inning at HOME makes sense - the home team would never be in a situation where a save is needed after that point. They will either give up the lead in the top of an inning or win it with a walk-off hit/walk/whatever in the bottom.
But on the road, why would Hader pitch the 9th in a 1-1 game? Even if he does his job and the games goes extras and the Brewers score in the top of the 10th, then you need someone else to close. I don't get it.
You're not rong, however you have to get to the 10th to have a chance to win. Then let the chips fall where they may in the home 10th.
Maybe Hader is hearing rumblings he’s trade bait? Who knows.
What I know is there’s little chance Milwaukee will be paying him in the range of 15M (give or take) as a pre arb 4 next year to be their closer. He’s unrestricted the following year.
So he will be traded. Just a question of when.
First place team trading the leagues best closer?
Thank God you’re not in charge.
I’m not in charge. But if you think Stearns and Mark A will pay their short time closer 15M+ a year that’s highly unlikely.
Besides, Hader can’t hit. If dealing him means you get a couple of MLB ready guys and a couple of top notch prospects you do it. Williams becomes your closer.
The only reason I’d entertain it is for the reasons you mention and that Williams easily slides to closer and Box is a great 8th inning guy…but the optics of a team going into the playoffs and trading a guy like Hader doesn’t say “all in” to the team or it’s fans.
Anyone else notice Tschmack never posts after a win? It is usually after a loss. He must just want to join in and say, "See, I told you so!"
Lol. It has nothing to do with that.
Go back to last year. Or earlier this year. I said this is a flawed team. Their pitching top to bottom is elite. Their hitting flat out sucks.
To some degree, it’s horrible timing and luck. In 2008 and 2011 we would have killed for a Burnes or Woodruff. Now? Gimme a Braun or Fielder for one of those guys.
This team will get the shit kicked out of them against ATL or LA in the playoffs. They might against the Mets and historically the Cards have owned them. So yeah, stay status quo and see what that gets you. I know the “optics” may not look good, but optics don’t win playoff games. This team can’t hit OK pitching much less playoff caliber pitching.
Or do the best thing and trade a guy like Hader when his value is high.
They are not going to the Series much less the NLCS with Hader. They need to counterbalance their strengths and weaknesses. A Hader move could reset that balance quicker.
The reality is a team like the Brewers can’t not go all in when they have a staff as good as they do. Shit, the league batting average is like .250, so they’re not that far off hitting-wise. And they hit for power. I for one, shall root root root for the home team!
Honestly, I could make a case that going “all in” means they deal Hader for a kings ransom. It would allow them to get more hitting assets or simply more assets back to keep the proverbial hope alive.
Their hitting is not contender level. Not close. Did you not watch the ATL series last year? The Braves can pitch. And they did just fine against our pitching including Hader.
Hope and Rowdy Tellez to carry your offense is a shitty strategy.
@Tschmack posted:Honestly, I could make a case that going “all in” means they deal Hader for a kings ransom. It would allow them to get more hitting assets or simply more assets back to keep the proverbial hope alive.
Their hitting is not contender level. Not close. Did you not watch the ATL series last year? The Braves can pitch. And they did just fine against our pitching including Hader.
Hope and Rowdy Tellez to carry your offense is a shitty strategy.
I agree on dealing Hader. You have Williams and Boxberger to shift to the 8th and 9th inning roles. It's more about replacing Boxberger than it is replacing Hader.
@Blair Kiel posted:The only reason I’d entertain it is for the reasons you mention and that Williams easily slides to closer and Box is a great 8th inning guy…but the optics of a team going into the playoffs and trading a guy like Hader doesn’t say “all in” to the team or it’s fans.
Sorry. Didn't read further up the thread before saying the same thing you said.
@Blair Kiel posted:The reality is a team like the Brewers can’t not go all in when they have a staff as good as they do. Shit, the league batting average is like .250, so they’re not that far off hitting-wise. And they hit for power. I for one, shall root root root for the home team!
TB or Miami?