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Let's get back to winning ways.
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Hour or so before game time so I did it. Thought maybe you were still shocked from the LIV PGA agreement and you didn't feel like posting a thread.
What was gonna be this series headline BK?
Crew get 2 in the 1st. Gibson throws 35 pitches.
Turang might be headed to Nashville when Adames comes back this week. He's in a real funk and Miller should get a lot of work at 2B.
Yelich has looked good tonight. He's about the only one on offense.
@PackerRick posted:Turang might be headed to Nashville when Adames comes back this week. He's in a real funk and Miller should get a lot of work at 2B.
Looks like he heard you and responded.
I think Singleton goes back. He's a nice story, making it back to the majors after 8 years in the minors, but I don't think he's long for Milwaukee.
Yelich gets intentionally walked so they can pitch to Miller? That hasn't happened in a while.
@MichiganPacker posted:Looks like he heard you and responded.
I think Singleton goes back. He's a nice story, making it back to the majors after 8 years in the minors, but I don't think he's long for Milwaukee.
I can see that too since he's a LH hitter like Tellez. The problem is Turang needs ABs and I'm not sure where he gets them. Miller has to play his way out of the lineup, Urias is 2B and 3B, Anderson I doubt goes exclusively to RF so he's 3B. Maybe Miller plays some 1B. Monasterio deserves to stay and I'd rather see Toro as the guying playing one or twice a week than Turang. I wouldn't send Turang down for poor performance as much as getting his ABs.
Glad Bautista is out of the game. That was a man against boys.
Weimer and Turang got clutch hits. The rookies are growing.
Something that doesn’t get talked about with Yelich, and something that adds value, is his base stealing.
Yeli swiped two bags tonight, giving him 16 on the season in 17 tries. That’s a sick 94.1%.
He’s 35 of 39 since the start of last season, and has stolen 100 bases in 115 tries since coming to Milwaukee. 87%.
As disappointing as it is that Yelich isn’t close to being the player he once was, some of his numbers don’t look so terrible.
He’s on a pace to score 108 runs, and steal 42 bases, along with 24 doubles and 19 home runs. He should generate 2.8-3.0 bWAR by season’s end, which is solid MLB starter value (2+. 5+ is All Star caliber).
Maybe I’m reaching. I guess I’m trying to find the positive.
@lambeausouth posted:Something that doesn’t get talked about with Yelich, and something that adds value, is his base stealing.
Yeli swiped two bags tonight, giving him 16 on the season in 17 tries. That’s a sick 94.1%.
He’s 35 of 39 since the start of last season, and has stolen 100 bases in 115 tries since coming to Milwaukee. 87%.
As disappointing as it is that Yelich isn’t close to being the player he once was, some of his numbers don’t look so terrible.
He’s on a pace to score 108 runs, and steal 42 bases, along with 24 doubles and 19 home runs. He should generate 2.8-3.0 bWAR by season’s end, which is solid MLB starter value (2+. 5+ is All Star caliber).
Maybe I’m reaching. I guess I’m trying to find the positive.
I agree with your assessment. Yelich has value. It's just that his ceiling is now Jeff Cirillo with some speed on the bases. His floor is probably Jim Gantner. He's at most a 5-6 million dollar player getting paid 26 million. If he were on the Dodgers, Mets, or Yankees it wouldn't be such a big deal. But small market teams can't miss on these types of contracts.
And yet everyone, EVERYONE at the time of the contract how great it was to lock up Yelich for such a long time at that money. And everyone seems to forget that. Can he regain that 2018-19 form, unlikely. But can he improve just a bit to be a .285 hitter with 18-20 homers, sure. Then you stick him at DH and bring in a real outfielder that can also hit and throw.
Now this looks like a line up that can put up some crooked numbers in multiple innings. And a pitcher that will hopefully keep the crooked numbers down.
4-0 Crew!! Top of 5th. Not many crooked numbers but base runners in 3 of 4 innings. 
Burnes giving up 1 hit and has 3K thru 4.
@ammo posted:And yet everyone, EVERYONE at the time of the contract how great it was to lock up Yelich for such a long time at that money. And everyone seems to forget that. Can he regain that 2018-19 form, unlikely. But can he improve just a bit to be a .285 hitter with 18-20 homers, sure. Then you stick him at DH and bring in a real outfielder that can also hit and throw.
I agree. Of the three guys the Wisconsin sports teams locked up for big money in that time frame (Rodgers, Yelich, and Giannis), I figured he was at least as likely as Giannis (if not more likely) to get a team to a title.
When you read his past scouting reports, there has been a lingering back issue since he was a minor leaguer in the Marlins system.
https://www.mlb.com/news/chris...rewers-injury-update
But, I was thrilled when they locked him up long-term. As some have mentioned on here before, a good parallel is Mattingly, whose back kept him from being a first ballot HOFer after he looked like he was a shoo-in at age 28. The kneecap break probably accelerated the back issues which would have likely started his decline anyway when he was 32-33 years old (but not 28 years old).
Love those 2 out hits and runs. Now 6-0 Brewers, top of 6th.
What a game by Burnes. 2 hits, 9 K, 0 BB, and 80 pitches thru 7 innings.
10 spot baby!
It looks like that steady diet of breaking balls the league has been feeding Weimer is paying off for him. His glove kept him in the bigs for the first 40 games of the season but now his bat has arrived. This guy has an incredibly high ceiling and has been a 5 tool player the last couple weeks. He could become the next "face of the franchise" player.
10-0 and Souza is turning a laugher into a game.
Wiemer last 5 at bats 2 homers, 2 doubles, single and 6 RBI. Has he finally found his stroke?
Souza gave up more hits and walks in one inning than Burnes did in 8 innings. Burnes was about as dominate as a pitcher can be.
Wiemer has raised his BA 44 points, SLG 100 points, and has more BBs than Ks in his last 8 games
@ammo posted:And yet everyone, EVERYONE at the time of the contract how great it was to lock up Yelich for such a long time at that money. And everyone seems to forget that. Can he regain that 2018-19 form, unlikely. But can he improve just a bit to be a .285 hitter with 18-20 homers, sure. Then you stick him at DH and bring in a real outfielder that can also hit and throw.
And I'm convinced the reason he's fallen off is injury related, and not any of this nonsense with the Brewers being tipped off at home. Yeli had a .944 OPS on the road in 2018, and a 1.006 in 2019. Sure, his home numbers were better. Miller Park is a hitter's park. He was still playing at a high All Star/MVP caliber level everywhere else.
Breaking a knee in half is a painful fucking injury, and the amount of torque put on that knee, and that back, in the batter's box, is incredible. It's not difficult to understand why he's not the same player. He likely hasn't been whole since that foul tip. The back alone he could manage. Both injuries may have just been too much.
While I hate being stuck with that massive cash drain going forward, I really can't fault the Brewers for preemptively taking a superstar off the market for the entirety of his prime. My gripe is more with the disparity in the game than anything. Sometimes, a big contract like that is justified, and there's no possible way the front office could have anticipated the knee injury. That was force majeure, bad luck that just happened to come down squarely on our heads. The signing was a sound one.
Had this happened to a team like the Yankees, the Mets or the Dodgers, they could have just shrugged it off. But a small market team like Milwaukee...it's Nicky Santoro putting Tony Dogs' head in a vice, and turning the screw until his eyes pop out of his head.
Still, I think we have to give credit to Christian. He's remained positive, and he's adapted his game to his predicament.
Since May 1st, he's hitting .291, slashing .391 OBP/.455 SLG/.845 OPS, with 19 runs, 6 doubles, 4 home runs, 14 RBI, 16 walks, 20 Ks, and he's stolen 11 of 12 bases.
I agree with ammo. Christian can do it; consistency is what he needs to shoot for.
Even he he hits .270, with AVG way down MLB wide, and has a .370+ OBP, with his base stealing ability, that's the kind of catalyst we really need. Then, it's up to the rest of the offense to produce consistently.
Nobody has run away with the division yet, and I'm not sold on the Pirates, especially with a few key injuries.
Corbin Burnes had a big game against a really good Orioles team. If we can just stay in the hunt, and get Woodruff back sometime hopefully soon, with Tehran continuing to be a real surprise, and the back end of the rotation pitching well, there's no reason why we can't win the Central. And after that, as I've said many times, if the offense gets hot, and our rotation is in place and healthy, who knows what could happen.
I don't think the knee injury is affecting Yelich at all. He's something like 14 out of 15 stolen bases. That wouldn't happen if he had lingering affects of a knee injury. His bat is slow and he has to do a lot of guessing at the plate. He doesn't drive the ball nearly as much as he did but he seems to be elevating the ball more than the last few seasons.
@PackerRick posted:He could become the next "face of the franchise" player.
Not with that haircut he has now. 
@ammo posted:Not with that haircut he has now.
I like it compared to the last one Rodgers had in GB. That looked like one of those things where he lost a bet.
Love those crooked numbers posted on the score board in the 1st inning.
But this guy really got tough. He's gone now. When is Rowdy going to snap out of it?
Strzelecki strikes out the side in the 8th. And gives up 3 hits and 3 runs. Down 4-3 now.
The Brewers let this one get away. They had a couple chances to get a couple tack on runs and they didn't. Leading 3-0 in the 6th, with a man on 3B and one out, they don't get the run in. The next inning the Orioles hit a HR and make it 3-1. Big difference.
Wasted a great effort by Rea. Still, winning the series with the Orioles was a good sign.
The A's come to town starting tomorrow. They are on pace to be one of the worst teams of all time with their current winning percentage projecting to a record of 35-127. The Brewers need to sweep them at home and absolutely can't go worse than 2-1 against them.
@PackerRick posted:I don't think the knee injury is affecting Yelich at all. He's something like 14 out of 15 stolen bases. That wouldn't happen if he had lingering affects of a knee injury. His bat is slow and he has to do a lot of guessing at the plate. He doesn't drive the ball nearly as much as he did but he seems to be elevating the ball more than the last few seasons.
Base stealing is pretty much north-south running. No twisting is involved. At the plate, the forces on his knee are different. So much of a player’s power comes from the lower half of their body.
Mickey Mantle spent all but his rookie season playing with a blown out right knee, suffered in the ‘51 Series. They didn’t have MRI or arthroscopic surgery back then, so the knee was never repaired while he played.
Mickey could still run north-south. He stole 145 bases in 176 tries after the knee injury (82.4%), but he couldn’t cut at all at speed.
The only reasons he was able to hit at all-he had what’s described as neuromuscular genius, and his freakish musculature took up the role that his ligaments and cartilage would have played in maintaining structural integrity. Still, he worries his entire career that the knee would just blow out without warning. And he had to completely wrap both his legs, ankle to hip, with ace bandages. They were so tight that they nearly cut off his circulation. Johnny Blanchard recalled that his legs were completely devoid of color when the bandages came off.
I think his back is ultimately more to blame, causing his hitting problems, but the two in concert have really messed up a real shot at the Hall.