Brewers trade Hunter Renfroe for some prospects.
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Shedding payroll for what?
As I've said all along. They are going to lockup Burnes and Woodruff long term, just like they did Yelich and go with as many low salry young guys to win. They have 3 very good out field prospects and Brice Truang for 2nd base. Add in young pitchers and away we go.
I hope you are right, Ammo. It makes no sense to drive fans away by going ultra-cheap, and then ask for a multi-billion dollar stadium from the taxpayers, as the current stadium is getting old, by modern sport standards. It could be the precursor to moving the team, if it isn’t for the purpose of paying the pitching talent.
Payroll or not, I would rather have youth than Renfroe and Wong (and I like both players). With the roster like it is, saving money for Adames, Burnes and Woodruff makes sense to me (and I still feel like one of Burnes or Woodruff isn't a Brewer in a couple years).
Letting Renfroe or Wong (or both) move on or dealing them makes a lot more sense than letting proven, consistent guys like Box or Suter walk for basically nothing.
Still, Renfroe in particular was pretty solid offensively and it’s not like he’s 40 years old.
I get that several players are due a raise this year but JFC do you want to compete or win the balance sheet?
With some of the apparent talent in AAA they can do both.
You seemed to have missed your life's calling. You should have applied for the Brewers GM job when Stearns stepped down. You have all the answers. Just open up the checkbook ala the Yankees and Dodgers. And what did they win this past season?
This should not slow down moving Yeli to DH
Gee, I forgot what the Astros and Braves have done recently. They aren’t spending like the Yankees but they are spending. What a novel concept. You own a professional team. Spend some fucking money or sell the goddamn franchise.
By the way, I wanted them to keep Stearns but apparently Mark A doesn’t want to pay non players either. The good news is Matt Arnold has the act down being a complete slappy for the owner. Good luck at trying to be half as successful as Stearns at building a competitive roster with both hands tied behind your back.
Can’t wait for the next decade of Brewers baseball. Any time Lasry and Edens want to buy out Attanasio I’m all for it. At least they act like real owners.
If you are a Brewers fan you have a right to be pissed off. They will gladly take your money and make little to no real effort to win. Just wait until they don’t get to pad their record with the Pirates and Reds and Cubs starting this year. The change in scheduling means the sledding just got a lot more difficult for teams that aren’t serious about winning (ie Brewers). Maybe that’s why they are tearing it down.
Or maybe Mark A just decided he’d rather have a payroll around 100M instead of almost 130M this past year. Expected raises for Woodruff and Burnes and Tellez and Adames will get them there assuming they dump Wong and Renfroe. Lauer might be next as well.
If you are going to blow it up blow it up. Trade Woodruff and Burnes today to get maximum value. Don’t fuck around and pretend they can compete otherwise.
Sounds like Wong is gone.
@Maynard posted:Sounds like Wong is gone.
They traded him for Jesse Winkler and Abraham Toro.
Winkler is going to make 8.25 million this year and had a horrible year for the Mariners in 2022. He is still relatively young and was very good for several years with the Reds before that. He's a left fielder and is a free agent after this coming year.
https://www.baseball-reference...rs/w/winkeje01.shtml
Toro seems like a throw in guy that is a utility infielder. He had a terrible year last year with an OPS of 563, but has been mostly in the mid 600s in 3 years in the majors other than that.He looked like he was a good prospect with a good year in the minors in 2019, so maybe that's what they were after. He's a minimum salary guy who is eligible for arbitration, but I can't believe he'd get much after hitting 185 with over 350 plate appearances last year.
https://www.baseball-reference...ers/t/toroab01.shtml
In addition, the Brewers sent Seattle 1.75 million in cash with this.
Winker has some pop in his bat, he will probably take the role McCutchen played, DH and occasional out field duty. Toro is just a guy, make not even make the Opening Day 25.
It’s not like Kolton Wong was a stud player, but count me in the I’m pretty underwhelmed with this move camp. Perhaps Winkler can reclaim previous performance and have a Hunter Renfroe type impact but that’s a stretch IMO.
It’s like Plan A, B, and C is just make moves and throw shit against the wall and hope half of them stick. It’s maddening and is even more so post David Stearns.
It seems pretty obvious now that Arnold was given marching orders that come hell or high water they need to get the payroll at or around 100M this season no matter what. There’s really no other explanation for what they are doing.
I know quit whining, but this has been the offseason from hell continuing a second half of the season from hell.
