Ellis/Dunleavy for Smith/Korver now being reported via Twitter.
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this franchise lives on bad decisions
That seems like a horrible trade. Are contracts a big part of this? Aren't the Bucks in the playoffs at the moment?
Josh Smith is a rental for a playoff run. He has to play well because he wants a max deal. He'll be motivated.
I was interested to see how Dunleavy played this year- he hasn't been that good. It's junk for junk there. Neither answers anyhng. Luxury players.
So now they get longer and more athletic inside. Could Smith be Hammonds' new Rasheed Wallace? Pipe dream, right?
I was interested to see how Dunleavy played this year- he hasn't been that good. It's junk for junk there. Neither answers anyhng. Luxury players.
So now they get longer and more athletic inside. Could Smith be Hammonds' new Rasheed Wallace? Pipe dream, right?
If that goes down, Jennings and Smith are going to flat out hoop it up. Oak Hill alumni!!
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:
That seems like a horrible trade. Are contracts a big part of this? Aren't the Bucks in the playoffs at the moment?
Wolves need a sg for Rubio. Too bad nobody wants to deal with Kahn.
the problem is, this is one of many, many short sighted moves this franchise makes. This year, I'd rather have Josh Smith than Monta, but it doesn't help at all down the road, and the road aint so hot this year. At least adding Korver might keep them from trading for JJ.
They need to move Bert for a pick, that would be a nice start.
They need to move Bert for a pick, that would be a nice start.
Yeah, trade just about any 1 of the guards and a high-salary for a pick.
Look long-term.
They should be able to get something for about half the team in different trade scenarios IMO.
Look long-term.
They should be able to get something for about half the team in different trade scenarios IMO.
Rumors also have Milwaukee interested in JJ Redick for Moute. That makes sense if they can move Ellis.
Not sure what to think about Josh Smith. If it's a rental I am OK with it. Not sure I would want to sign him long term.
Not sure what to think about Josh Smith. If it's a rental I am OK with it. Not sure I would want to sign him long term.
quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Wolves need a sg for Rubio. Too bad nobody wants to deal with Kahn.
I actually think Buddinger could be that when he comes back from injury.
I get that Kahn isn't respected around the league but the guy probably has made the most trades of anyone since he took the job. I don't think anybody refuses to deal with him. In fact, I bet they maybe WANT to deal with him since they most likely think they can rob him blind.
If they make any move, it will be DWill for something. He doesn't seem to be working out and he also doesn't seem to have a position.
IMO, they Wolves would be in the playoff hunt without the chronic injuries. Once again, it's next year...
C'mon, you gotta be better than recycled subset material.
I will note again, I once worked for the Wolves and obviously became a fan. Still a Bucks fan, but being a member of the organization and still having friends there has made them my fav NBA club.
I will note again, I once worked for the Wolves and obviously became a fan. Still a Bucks fan, but being a member of the organization and still having friends there has made them my fav NBA club.
Kahn is a terrible GM and he comes across as a real annoying know it all despite not doing anything to earn that label.
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Josh Smith (born December 5, 1985 in College Park, Georgia) is an American professional basketball player who currently plays for the Milwaukee Bucks of the National Basketball Association (NBA).
Got to be true then
Josh Smith (born December 5, 1985 in College Park, Georgia) is an American professional basketball player who currently plays for the Milwaukee Bucks of the National Basketball Association (NBA).
Got to be true then
Cb, you know people that work for the wolves? No way.
Cb, you know people? No way.
That life coach is really making things happen, isn't it?
That life coach is really making things happen, isn't it?
Yeah, he worked for the wolves like fans work for the Packers shoveling the stadium out.
Can you say, "Hey loser, scrape that gum off the floor and go get me a cup of coffee".
"and if you sniff Laettner's shorts again, you're outta here".
Can you say, "Hey loser, scrape that gum off the floor and go get me a cup of coffee".
"and if you sniff Laettner's shorts again, you're outta here".
so off base...
1. worked there before the new logo, so that image of crunch ain't me.
2. arena clean-up people are employed by Target Center, not the Wolves.
3. Hadn't heard of life coaches yet when I worked there and actually, it was before the internet was even a viable marketing tool so I hadn't even visited your favorite blog yet.
1. worked there before the new logo, so that image of crunch ain't me.
2. arena clean-up people are employed by Target Center, not the Wolves.
3. Hadn't heard of life coaches yet when I worked there and actually, it was before the internet was even a viable marketing tool so I hadn't even visited your favorite blog yet.
Ellis needs to be traded....great at going to the hoop but an awful shooter. get what you can and run. Dont like him!
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider
Can confirm JJ Redick, Gustavo Ayon & Ish Smith to Bucks for Beno Udrih, Tobias Harris & Doron Lamb.
why and why and why
totally stupid idiotic trade
Can confirm JJ Redick, Gustavo Ayon & Ish Smith to Bucks for Beno Udrih, Tobias Harris & Doron Lamb.
why and why and why
totally stupid idiotic trade
You'd of thought they'd try to bolster their front court since the only decent big they have is Sanders and he can't score.
It doesn't even make sense as a salary dump.
I guess they play out the season with Jennings and Ellis and in the off-season they will both leave without the Bucks having gotten a thing for them.
So when they are out matched in the paint (a common occurance) they'll just trey their way to victory? Sounds like a plan (a bad one).
It doesn't even make sense as a salary dump.
I guess they play out the season with Jennings and Ellis and in the off-season they will both leave without the Bucks having gotten a thing for them.
So when they are out matched in the paint (a common occurance) they'll just trey their way to victory? Sounds like a plan (a bad one).
beno was the only point guard who actually passed. Lamb and Harris are barely 20 years old if that. An we get yet another stiff big man and a pending free agent.
Hammond is a fing idiot
Hammond is a fing idiot
The only thing this trade does is it allows Hammond to say "Hey, I'm trying to improve the team." without actually improving the team.
Jennings and Ellis will be gone after this season (good riddens), an the Bucks will be right back to square 1. Again.
Contract this team already.......
Jennings and Ellis will be gone after this season (good riddens), an the Bucks will be right back to square 1. Again.
Contract this team already.......
Not a bad trade. Not a good trade. A little short term gain, no long term gain. This team is destined to be fighting for the 8th seed/last pick in the lottery.
I am OK with this move. It would have been nice to move Ellis but there weren't enough takers I suppose.
Picking up Redick was a nice move because while he can't play D (neither can Udrih) he can shoot from the outside. He gives them another scorer if Jennings and Ellis are off.
They must have had concerns about Tobias Harris because they dropped him like a bad habit. Thankfully they didn't deal Sanders or Henson!
Picking up Redick was a nice move because while he can't play D (neither can Udrih) he can shoot from the outside. He gives them another scorer if Jennings and Ellis are off.
They must have had concerns about Tobias Harris because they dropped him like a bad habit. Thankfully they didn't deal Sanders or Henson!
The Harris thing has me wondering. Something happened. He was the future of the SF position, Ben he's planted firmly on the bench. Then he gets traded.
They gave up nothing that was consequential and got a kid that can score and make FTs. It's an improvement, but it doesn't change their fate.
They gave up nothing that was consequential and got a kid that can score and make FTs. It's an improvement, but it doesn't change their fate.
Agreed
When not if te team is a free agent except for 20 million tied up with golden, luc , and ersan
Will be rebuilding again as usual with another blow up
Only thing Hammond knows what to do
When not if te team is a free agent except for 20 million tied up with golden, luc , and ersan
Will be rebuilding again as usual with another blow up
Only thing Hammond knows what to do
Redick gives them another SG option (possibly) if Ellis opts out next season which I fully expect he will.
They only have 40MM committed to next season and that assumes that Ellis takes the 11MM player option or they resign Jennings to a long term deal. They won't do both IMO. Henson, Moute, Ersan, Sanders, and Udoh are all under contract for at least the next 2 seasons so they have some pieces to build around and in theory they could go out and sign a max player even if they resign Jennings.
I also wouldn't slam the door shut on Redick if he wants to stay in Milwaukee. The guy would be a serviceable SG and really good 6th man either filling in at the 1 or 2 spot.
They need another decent SF though no matter what and they may need another SG. Not sure what their options are in free agency but it's a thought.
I am just curious to know what happened with Tobias Harris. He was killing it in the summer league play and looked OK when he did play in real games but he fell out of favor in a hurry.
They only have 40MM committed to next season and that assumes that Ellis takes the 11MM player option or they resign Jennings to a long term deal. They won't do both IMO. Henson, Moute, Ersan, Sanders, and Udoh are all under contract for at least the next 2 seasons so they have some pieces to build around and in theory they could go out and sign a max player even if they resign Jennings.
I also wouldn't slam the door shut on Redick if he wants to stay in Milwaukee. The guy would be a serviceable SG and really good 6th man either filling in at the 1 or 2 spot.
They need another decent SF though no matter what and they may need another SG. Not sure what their options are in free agency but it's a thought.
I am just curious to know what happened with Tobias Harris. He was killing it in the summer league play and looked OK when he did play in real games but he fell out of favor in a hurry.
The NBA is a game built entirely around superstars or at least all-star level talent. If a trade doesn't involve one of those types of players, in the end it won't effect much. I like Redick and he may let them win a game or two more this year. What this means is they'll earn the right to get blown out by Miami in the first round.
The Bucks have no all-star level talents. They have two guards that would be nice complimentary pieces on a good team. Jennings or Ellis are 20-25 minute a night guys on a championship-caliber club who could come in and provide a change of pace. They are not max players or anywhere near close to that.
Larry Sanders is a good fit for almost any team. He's essentially the Horace Grant/Rodman equivalent on the Bulls teams from the 90s. If you had a Lebron/Durant/Kobe/Chris Paul/Westbrook/etc., he'd be a great addition.
Let's face it. The Bucks are in the group of about 15-20 teams that are slightly better versions of the Washington Generals to the Harlem GLobetrotter teams (Heat, Thunder, Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs, etc.). THe Bucks fight like crazy every year to get the 8th seed. If the Bucks have a good year, the fans get the opportunity to see a playoff game in Milwaukee with Lebron James.
THe Josh Smith stuff? Does anyone really think you can build a championship team around Josh Smith? He's a good second or third option on a championship level team.
The Bucks have no all-star level talents. They have two guards that would be nice complimentary pieces on a good team. Jennings or Ellis are 20-25 minute a night guys on a championship-caliber club who could come in and provide a change of pace. They are not max players or anywhere near close to that.
Larry Sanders is a good fit for almost any team. He's essentially the Horace Grant/Rodman equivalent on the Bulls teams from the 90s. If you had a Lebron/Durant/Kobe/Chris Paul/Westbrook/etc., he'd be a great addition.
Let's face it. The Bucks are in the group of about 15-20 teams that are slightly better versions of the Washington Generals to the Harlem GLobetrotter teams (Heat, Thunder, Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs, etc.). THe Bucks fight like crazy every year to get the 8th seed. If the Bucks have a good year, the fans get the opportunity to see a playoff game in Milwaukee with Lebron James.
THe Josh Smith stuff? Does anyone really think you can build a championship team around Josh Smith? He's a good second or third option on a championship level team.
If josh smith was a championship calibur player he would have won in atlanta with joe johnson, al horford, jeff teague, etc. He didnt. Stay away from that headcase
quote:Originally posted by Oldtimer:
At least one person is happy about the trade. Beno Udrih from the Orlando Sentinel:
"I've been here three days, and I've already felt more at home than I did in Milwaukee for a year and a half," Udrih said Monday.
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Haha, feeling at home in Orlando? Even people who live in Orlando don't like Orlando.
Jennings... should Lakers take the guy in a trade?
quote:Originally posted by Oldtimer:
At least one person is happy about the trade. Beno Udrih from the Orlando Sentinel:
"I've been here three days, and I've already felt more at home than I did in Milwaukee for a year and a half," Udrih said Monday.
More not-so-complimentary comments past the click.
Yeah, Beno was caught in a "hype the false star" situation, instead of it being about productive basketball.