My daughter has worked exclusively on a Covid ward for the past 9 weeks.... 20 beds ...they've had only 1 vaccinated (not boosted) patient.
@Blair Kiel posted:I just want to be the first to say that it’s awesome O.J’s house guest has finally settled on a career.
No more guesthouse!
I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
@Blair Kiel posted:I just want to be the first to say that it’s awesome O.J’s house guest has finally settled on a career.
Kariko on the left, Kato Kaelin on the right. Same person?
I should use that joke in class. The problem is that absolutely no one under 40 knows how Kato Kaelin is. Most of them have never watched Seinfeld, let alone know anything other pop culture stuff from the 90s.
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By the way…Kato is a Wisconsin sports fan and appears occasionally on theDan Barreiro show on KFAN in Minny
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
When the New York Times started publishing only lies is all all I can come up with.
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
You made that shit up.
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
When this became an epidemic
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
When he said, "It's only 1 person, coming in from Chine-Naa.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Her two decades of working on the chemistry of RNA helped Moderna optimize the stability of the mRNA within the vaccine.This just all shows that Kariko's comment that the scientific community as a whole helped develop the mRNA viruses is very appropriate.
It certainly is.
Read more here on the 30 year history of mRNA vaccine development:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w?
Continuous struggle
In the 1990s and for most of the 2000s, nearly every vaccine company that considered working on mRNA opted to invest its resources elsewhere. The conventional wisdom held that mRNA was too prone to degradation, and its production too expensive. “It was a continuous struggle,” says Peter Liljeström, a virologist at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, who 30 years ago pioneered a type of ‘self-amplifying’ RNA vaccine.
“RNA was so hard to work with,” says Matt Winkler, who founded one of the first RNA-focused lab supplies companies, Ambion, in Austin, Texas, in 1989.
“If you had asked me back [then] if you could inject RNA into somebody for a vaccine, I would have laughed in your face.”
Most do not understand the complexities and challenges of turning a scientific discovery into a useful therapeutic or vaccine. No big deal. The problem arises when hucksters take advantage of the dumbasses , shovel a bunch of crapola into their gaping maws and then those numbnuts regurgitate it on the internet like its the gospel.
The good news is they're easy to spot. 
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I just want to know when the art of debate devolved to become simply calling your opponent’s arguments a lie no matter what.
It's always been there, but in its modern form it was probably elevated by Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich.
Crossfire on CNN (and Hannity and Colmes on Fox) probably is the precursor to a lot of this. Whatever you think of Jon Stewart his takedown of Paul Begala and Tucker Carlson in 2004 for playing up partisan division for ratings was spot on.
@Satori posted:Most do not understand the complexities and challenges of turning a scientific discovery into a useful therapeutic or vaccine. No big deal. The problem arises when hucksters take advantage of the dumbasses , shovel a bunch of crapola into their gaping maws and then those numbnuts regurgitate it on the internet like its the gospel.
The good news is they're easy to spot.
You mean like a certain poster here on TimesFour?
All I know is Kato Kaelin has carved out a neat little niche as a Craig Counsell hater. His Twitter rants are legendary. Sort of like MC on just about everything.
What I find utterly ironic and in some cases amusing is that people are so divided and unhappy and the economy and global supply chain are a mess yet had people just taken the goddamn shot we’d be back making America great again.
If there is a silver lining, it’s that a lot of misinformed and low IQ mouthbreathers are learning first hand about natural selection and survival of the fittest. Funny how that works.
@Music City posted:I would. You wish harm on innocent people, you get the label. Fuck you, fuck her, and everyone like both of you. Hope I’m being crystal clear on that…
@Tschmack posted:All I know is Kato Kaelin has carved out a neat little niche as a Craig Counsell hater. His Twitter rants are legendary. Sort of like MC on just about everything.
What I find utterly ironic and in some cases amusing is that people are so divided and unhappy and the economy and global supply chain are a mess yet had people just taken the goddamn shot we’d be back making America great again.
If there is a silver lining, it’s that a lot of misinformed and low IQ mouthbreathers are learning first hand about natural selection and survival of the fittest. Funny how that works.
And their hero would perhaps be in charge…
This story seems to fit my wife's hospital. Five nurses on her unit out with Covid the other day. She works 6:30 a.m.-8:30 p.m. without any break. Comes home exhausted.
@Music City posted:Then you ramp up the rhetoric- wish harm and even death upon anyone who expresses opposition. Hey, take the jab. Go for it. Just leave me alone. All the information I read makes putting that shit in my body a non-starter.
What are the sources of the information you are reading?
Does Hank get a free ticket to the game or is that on him?
A close friend of the family has worked as a nurse in the "covid ward" since the beginning. Before the vaccine, those that died were overwhelmingly in the morbidly obese demographic. Since the vaccine came out, those in the hospital are almost unanimously unvaccinated.
@Music City posted:start taking satisfaction in the tragic death of my loved ones
Huh?
I'm not on the left, dumbass.
I do however have a degree in immunology & microbiology and have spent the last 35 years working in drug & vaccine development. I've been extremely fortunate and have worked with some of the brightest humans on the planet across the entire spectrum of political beliefs, including 3 Nobel prize winners.
I don't wish harm on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in your case
You on the other hand don't know jack diddly squat about anything and are very easily fooled - because you're a dime- a- dozen zealot. You're the perfect target for sowing misinformation. You've done all the research ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You don't even know what the words mean !!!
Your move...dickhead
(At this point in time, non-lobotomized posters would have realized they are clearly in over their heads and move on. MC, not so much)
You lose again johnny boy.
@Music City posted:but you start taking satisfaction in the tragic death of my loved ones, you get something else. I’m good with either. Your move…
Funny, I say the same thing about assholes who keep spreading COVID using lies because of your "liberties". Because you are a dupe. Your negligence has more chance of affecting the people's lives you drone on about and others that want nothing to do with you. Permanent harm or death.
Just a cold.
Your "liberties" are what puts your family and other dupes in danger. Not some statement about wanting plague rats to go fucking die because you harm other people.
Fucking laughable. You have the option to diminish the impact of a pandemic for everyone but instead you spew made up bile that's easily disproven. Election lies, vaccine lies, anything to protect your fragile fucking ego. Yet, you draw the line at people saying fuck you for making this shit worse. A literal life and death decision for some.
You put me and mine in danger you bet your ass I'll tell you right to your fucking face to go die in a hole.
Human pollution.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:What are the sources of the information you are reading?
Still waiting
Here I thought I was going to read about Holiday, Allen, Connaughton and Hill.
All I got was the ramblings of an unhinged dipshit.
Can Henry identify Martyr by the mask he will be wearing? And I see he did not provide a seat number. What are people supposwed to do, show up and hollar Martyr City?
@Music City posted:. I’m a pretty fun guy to be around, love a good beer and a great story, love music and love to laugh…
I’m good with either. Your move…
Do you like long walks on the beach?
Whose move? Does it involve pina coladas and getting caught in the rain?
All kidding aside, I hope he is OK. Seems to be one step from an intervention.
@Henry posted:I'll just look for the hair shirt with Trump embroidered on it.
Now you’re insulting me, bub.
Angel number states 208 is all things good and blessed.
Yet another reason to stay in the lower bowl seats at Fiserv Forum.
All this talk about meatings and making moves is giving me a hard on. Like in my best Feyda Top Gun voice.
@Henry posted:Okay, I'll fly Spirit.
Probably cheaper than paying or the tickets and a couple of beers at FiServ these days.
Not a cheap date for sure
Took younger daughter to game recently about 10 rows off the court and w/tiks and parking it was close to 5 hundy
Like to get to several games during the year so it is what it is. But I love the Bucks and the closer you get the more $$$ it is.
Have a buddy that has basically court side seats at Kohl Center for Badgers and you would not believe what that costs.