Keep the train rollin boys... looks like Hill will not play tonight. Could put a strain on the Gs. Sterling Brown will need to play a lot better tonight...
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Sabonis is questionable for them.
Interesting quote from Brogdon today.
More Brogdon: "The Bucks are a group of high character guys...I would have loved to play for this team if they wanted me and valued me like the Pacers did."
Music City posted:Keep the train rollin boys... looks like Hill will not play tonight. Could put a strain on the Gs. Sterling Brown will need to play a lot better tonight...
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Ugly start for the Bucks
These back to backs suck when the other team hasn't played the previous night.
A lot of guys got rest against the Knicks. But yeh still a btb
Here we go. Better flow right now.
Bucks fight back from 19-10 down and end quarter only down 22-21.
Clankfest right now.
You can just see energy difference between the teams. Hate the back to back games. Indy giving them a fight.
Pacers doing a good job getting us to play at their pace....sloggish
Bucks close out the half up 4 good D on the last few possessions
Thank goodness for George Hill. Again and again
What a crap way to end the 3Q
Tschmack posted:What a crap way to end the 3Q
Unbelievable. 9-0 run in like 40s.
Bud really screwed up at the end of that quarter. A 21 point lead was cut to 10 with Giannis and Middleton on the bench. A blow out now becomes a contested game.
That was terrible defensive lineup on the court for 3 point defense. Ilyasova, R. Lopez, Korver, and Connaughton and the Bucks were scoreless the last 3:20.
Down to single digits.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Down to single digits.
And then Giannis hits a 3 followed by Connaughton and it's 15 again
Giannis at 16-16-9 with 6 minutes left. He's clearly tired, but still on the verge of a 20-20-10 triple double.
George Hill: 17-9-4
Giannis ends up with "only" 18-19-9
Back end of a back to back against a 20-9 team.
Bucks win by "only" 28.
Man, are they solid!
Most glaring thing of course is...the defense only allowed 34 points in the 2nd half.
They could've scored ZERO in the 3rd quarter & still beat the Pacers.
They're an absolute machine right now.
For God sakes keep the minutes down & take care of your bodies, stay healthy & sky is the limit.
Lopez might be getting his 3pt shooting touch back in order. The last two games heâs shooting 50%. Matthews has come around nicely as well after a slow start to the year.
The defensive pressure in the second half (minus the last 2-3 minutes in the 3Q) was just stifling. And thatâs with arguably their second best defensive player (Bledsoe) out.
We also saw why it was probably a good decision not to extend Brogdon for huge dollars. Heâs a decent player, but he canât carry a team.
Tschmack posted:Lopez might be getting his 3pt shooting touch back in order. The last two games heâs shooting 50%. Matthews has come around nicely as well after a slow start to the year.
The defensive pressure in the second half (minus the last 2-3 minutes in the 3Q) was just stifling. And thatâs with arguably their second best defensive player (Bledsoe) out.
We also saw why it was probably a good decision not to extend Brogdon for huge dollars. Heâs a decent player, but he canât carry a team.
I'd rather have Hill anyways.
Thereâs some things I miss about Brogdon, but his loss actually allowed the Bucks to spend money on Hill and Matthews. Plus it opened up more playing time for DiVincenzo, an extremely promising 22 year old with some upside.
It was kind of sad to see him on a rival team but thatâs just the way sports goes these days, you canât keep everyone. At present going with these other guys instead of Brogdon is working out extremely well.
That second half was amazing defense. They were like a boa constrictor- Pacers squirmed and tried to get loose, and the D got tighter and tight as the lead expanded.
When you consider the Bucks got George Hill, Wes Matthews, and Kyle Korver for about what it would have cost them this year for Brogdon well thatâs a no brainer. Heck, throw in Robin Lopez for good measure. And a draft pick.
The fact of the matter is you canât pay everyone. Brogdon was one of my favorite players but they are a better team with this group than with Brogdon and less pieces. We also need to remember they drafted DD for a reason and he is showing what he can do. He may not be as good as Malcom (today) offensively, but his passing and rebounding and pesky defense is as good if not better. In another year he very well might be better than Brogdon offensively and heâs not costing us 25MM per season.
Or look at it this way. Are they better with Brogdon and Bledsoe and DD or are they better with Bledsoe and Hill and DD and Matthews? Thatâs an easy choice. More depth and more quality options for Coach Bud. Guys donât have to play 40 minutes a night when you have this type of team from 1-9 or 1-10 on the roster.
Good discussion on the Brogdon question. The other (perhaps main thing) about Brogdon is that he has missed large parts of the last two seasons with injuries and was out, or ineffective, for parts of the last two playoff runs.
If you were confident you could get 35 full-strength minutes from Brogdon against the Sixers, Celtics, or Heat (the teams that are threats over a 7 game series to the Bucks), you MIGHT have paid him. But he's a bigger medical risk than a lot of guys, which is why he was only a 2nd round pick to begin with. I'd rather have Hill (probably 90% as good as Brogdon), DD (offensively as good when he develops), and Matthews (defensively as good) available and ready to play those minutes.
Brogdon is what he is, a good player who is a great #3 or #4 player on a title contender. He could have probably taken 50-60 million over 4-5 years with the Bucks and still been here. He would rather have 85 million over 4 years, put up better counting stats as a result of his situation, but have no realistic shot at a title. I don't blame him - I'd probably do the same. 30 million is a lot of money for anybody, let alone someone who has a lot bigger life goals (clean water in Africa) than winning an NBA title
In the end, whether the Bucks win 55 or 65 regular seasons games doesn't matter much. What matters is whether they can shut down Kemba Walker/Jayson Tatum against the Celtics; Embiid/T. Harris against the Sixers; or Jimmy Bulter on the Heat.
I think the biggest threat in the East is actually the Celtics, but it's those matchups that count. Having a bunch of guys that are AVAILABLE to throw at those guys will be key.
Clearly the right decision for both...
We will see on Wednesday who in the East is the biggest risk to the Bucks when they face the Sixers. It sure as hell ainât the Pacers.
On paper, Philly should pose the best challenge to Milwaukee but they are mentally weak and still immature. I also wonder about their coaching.
I agree on Boston as they are very balanced and they seem to scheme and execute against the Bucks very well. Stevens is a helluva coach. I view the Raptors next as they are a poor mans version of the Celtics. Itâs hard for me to take Miami seriously as I think they will fade somewhat. They arenât as good as their record indicates.
The West all of a sudden isnât just the Lakers and Clippers. Denver is coming in and Dallas is scary good offensively.
Bucks on pace to win 71 games. Lots of games left to play but this team right now is playing historically good.
On paper, Boston shouldn't be as much of a threat as last year. I'm not sure they have anyone to guard Giannis anymore (not that Horford really could, but he would at least make him work). But they are one of 4 teams to beat the Bucks, and the only one to do so in a game that wasn't a one possession game at the end.
Last year on December 14th, the Bucks were doing well at 18-9. But then they really took off and ended the regular season winning 42 of 55. They've now 27 of 31 this year, so they've gone 69-17 in the last 53 weeks in the regular season.
Giannis has sat out 9 regular season games in that span and the Bucks are 3-6 in those games.
So, they are 66-13 in games Giannis has played in that span. He's fouled out of 3 of those losses, so they are 66-10 in games he's been able to finish.
Of the remaining 10 losses, 4 of them are on them are on the second night of back-to-back games.
MichiganPacker2 posted:On paper, Boston shouldn't be as much of a threat as last year. I'm not sure they have anyone to guard Giannis anymore (not that Horford really could, but he would at least make him work). But they are one of 4 teams to beat the Bucks, and the only one to do so in a game that wasn't a one possession game at the end.
The one thing in Boston's favor this year, Kyrie isn't there to destroy the team chemistry. That said, I would think in a 7 game series, Giannis would wear that team down.
fightphoe93 posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:On paper, Boston shouldn't be as much of a threat as last year. I'm not sure they have anyone to guard Giannis anymore (not that Horford really could, but he would at least make him work). But they are one of 4 teams to beat the Bucks, and the only one to do so in a game that wasn't a one possession game at the end.
The one thing in Boston's favor this year, Kyrie isn't there to destroy the team chemistry. That said, I would think in a 7 game series, Giannis would wear that team down.
The biggest matchup on the Bucks side would be whether Bledsoe can control Kemba Walker. For as poorly as he played on offense, Bledsoe played a big part in making Kyrie quit on the Celtics in that series last year.
When the Celtics beat the Bucks, the Bucks failure offensively exasperated real defensive issues that emerged in the third Q (38-18). The Bucks proceeded to give up 74 total second half points- canât win too make games when you simultaneously shoot 31% from three and also give up 74 points in a half.
The defensive issues have been worked out, all things being equal. Boston were successful keeping the Bucks out of the paint in that game as well.
Now the Bucks will lapse for maybe part of a quarter- but not an entire half. Play the Celtics again and I am 100% certain they kick their ass...
The problem with Bledsoe is as good as he played against a Kyrie that checked out he was awful against Kyle Lowry.
The real challenge is going to be when he returns because DD and George Hill have played unreal. Hill is unconscious right now shooting the ball and DD gives them a bigger PG that is just as scrappy and feisty as Bledsoe. Pretty sure Hill and DD wonât hoist up ill advised 3s either.
I love Bledsoeâs defensive effort but heâs so hot and cold that Bud will need to figure out the best way to divvy up minutes. Personally, I would not just hand it back to Bledsoe.
As for their record, since the Boston and Miami losses they have been almost unbeatable. Hell, they pissed away the Miami game. I wish they could fast forward to the playoffs because honestly these regular season games arenât testing them anymore.
This is shaping up to be a special season. Went to the game last night and going to several more as we are witnessing greatness. Been to 4 games already (4 last year) and havenât lost one yet. I should be more pumped about the Packers and Badgers but man Iâm almost obsessive about this team right now. People have to catch the live show as itâs unbelievable.
The fan experience is the best in WI sports. Yeah I said it. And this is coming from a guy thatâs probably been to 100 Badgers games and almost as many Packers games. Many more Brewers games. The vibe is Easter Sunday 1987 Brewers good.
Was listening to a National Radio broadcast & they were discussing the NBA.
They mentioned, Mavs, Lakers, Clippers, Utah, Boston, Sixers, Rockets, Nuggets, Heat, Pacers, Raptors....
Take a wild guess which team they did NOT talk about. Not one word.....Not even a hint.
F**K them, F**K the NBA, F**K everyone who wants our SuperStar out of Milwaukee. F**k 'em all!
