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Tschmack posted:

Harden is pretty overrated if you ask me 

The whole step back (no travel) move and drawing ticky tack fouls seems to be his game 

 

He generally plays defense with the same intensity as Jabari Parker, but he's a HOF offensive player. 

He plays no defense 

Neither does the team 

Houston is an also ran team

The refs treat them like they are the present day Warriors or past Spurs but they are irrelevant in the West.  The refs need to realize they are a 4 or 5 seed not the Bulls with Jordan 

 

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Tschmack posted:

Another bullshit call 

Giannis gets called for the charge and Houston “defender” isn’t set at all 

He had already passed the ball. They usually don't call that on most players, let alone an All-Star level guy. 

He’s a junk player 

He should be called for traveling on half his step back shots.  A lot of players do.  Not him

The best part is Houston is going nowhere in the West.  Yet they are treated like the 80s Lakers.  **** that team 

Harden with 9 FT attempts so far. Giannis with 2. 

Harden shoots 3 pointers and does the Reggie Miller flail with his legs, Giannis drives and has 3 guys hacking at him every possession - yet only one foul call.

Tschmack posted:

I have no idea what they are calling 

Harden misses the dunk and they get bailed out yet no contact 

I agree. They way they officiate Harden, he's unguardable. Even Steph Curry doesn't get the calls he does. 

Brainwashed Boris posted:

James Harden....eat shit! And get a shave...BITCH! MILWAUKEE BUCKS! #FearTheDeer baby! 💪

Loving it!

Harden with 9 turnovers. If Bledsoe would have been able to guard him all night, he'd have probably scored about 15 points less. 

Bledsoe was great on defense tonight. 

There was that 1 play. Harden steps back hits a 3 then kicks his leg out to make contact with Bledsoes & they call a foul on Bledsoe....it's ****in ridiculous.

But eff it....Bucks win. Let's keep this train rolling!

Malcolm Brogdon was stellar once again. 

Bucks had to overcome a lot. That was some weird officiating....NBA has to do something about all of these offensive charge calls when defender is not close to being set.

Harden is very good but man he really gets away with a lot.  If I'm not mistaken, he put up around 45 shots. Ok, great but we win with TEAM play  .

Next  . 

 

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MichiganPacker2 posted:

Giannis with 27 points, 21 rebounds, and 5 assists. 

Brogdon is 77 for 78 from the line this year. That is absolutely incredible. 

Brogdon could be a 50-40-90 guy... pretty select company there. 

It’s incredible what the refs let Harden get away with.  Reminds me of Allen Iverson like treatment.   He initiates contact to create his shot and that step back move without dribbling is a complete joke.

He can get his 40 points per game I’d much rather get the win.  Houston is tough to beat at home but another notch in the victory belt for the Bucks. 

Giannis gets all the credit in the world but this year Brogdon and to a lesser extent Bledsoe have come up big in key moments.   Love their defensive effort and intensity and MB is clutch. 

 

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The bonus was Giannis inadvertently drilling Harden in the face on a pass.  

He does stuff on the court just about every game that makes you sit back and marvel at his skills.   I had the same feeling watching guys like Bird and Magic and MJ.  He’s truly a special kind of talent and his work ethic and desire to improve is outstanding. 

Brainwashed Boris posted:

There was that 1 play. Harden steps back hits a 3 then kicks his leg out to make contact with Bledsoes & they call a foul on Bledsoe....it's ****in ridiculous.

But eff it....Bucks win. Let's keep this train rolling!

I like the push off hard with the left arm to clear space move (and take two steps along with it). And get's the 4 point play calls.

If they called the same level of contact on guys that drive to the rim (LeBron, Giannis, etc.) that they do for Harden, those guys would average 30 FTAs a game.

The isolation stuff is also really boring to watch. Giannis or LeBron driving and kicking; the Warriors moving the ball around the perimeter; the Ben Simmons type passing, etc. are all nice to watch. Harden pounding the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock and then launching is like watching a game at the local Y.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

All I know is....the more I watch Middleton, the more I know he isn't worth $20 million a year.

Just my opinion, man.

That's the problem this offseason. Even not considering Lopez, they have three guys up for free agency that are all important parts of the team, but none of them are what I'd consider max players (Middleton, Brogdon, and Bledsoe). Middleton and Bledsoe will want max money and are likely to get it from somebody willing to overpay. Middleton keeps getting mentioned as a guy to go the Lakers (or to the Knicks if they get Durant).

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