Mike Budebholzer was fired by the Bucks today. Story on ESPN.
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Man, I get that that his brother died and while that was a horrible thing to endure, IMO it was the the right move. There’s simply no excuse for shitting the bed to an 8 seed with 1 good player and a bunch of nobody’s.
Time for a change,
Not sure if I like this. Hope it doesn't cause Giannis to demand a trade.
I feel for Bud on a personal level, but 2019 and 2020 were really bad endings. He was a KD toenail away from getting fired in 2021.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) May 4, 2023
This is as much about what happened pre-title as what happened this year. It’s an accumulation of information you might say. https://t.co/UDCRRLFHmt
@MNPackman posted:Not sure if I like this. Hope it doesn't cause Giannis to demand a trade.
Any way this was done with his blessing?
@MNPackman posted:Not sure if I like this. Hope it doesn't cause Giannis to demand a trade.
If anything, I think it would have the opposite effect. The Bucks around Giannis (and Giannis himself, though the guy was playing hurt) didn’t perform, and Bud didn’t make the kinds of adjustments needed to set the team up for success. He was constantly being outcoached.
Giannis wants to win more championships. This is the first step by team management that they’re not going to just sit by and watch this team fade. They’re going to aggressively pursue ways to improve the Bucks and give them the best chance to win it all again, and soon.
I could be completely wrong, but based on what I’ve heard from Giannis over the last few years, the team is matching his commitment to winning. And I’m certain that Giannis was made aware of the decision before it happened.
I said the same thing when MM got the ax: About time.
Early guesses as who they’re bringing in? They have to have a pretty good idea.
I have to think they discussed with Giannis before pulling the trigger on Bud.
If you look at the ESPN article Ammo posted they mentioned Charles Lee being a finalist for the Pistons job.
Could be a natural fit right here in Milwaukee
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I have a hard time believing they did this without getting input from Giannis.
@ammo posted:Mike Budebholzer was fired by the Bucks today. Story on ESPN.
His performance in this year’s playoffs was truly horrific. This is not a shock.
@MNPackman posted:Not sure if I like this. Hope it doesn't cause Giannis to demand a trade.
If you saw Gianni’s’ comments after the game, it won’t.
Management tried to contact Aaron Rodgers before canning Bud, but they couldn’t get him on the phone.
I said what I said because, as we all know, Giannis tends to be a very loyal guy. I dont know what his relationship was like with Bud, none of us do. But, if they happened to be close, this could spell trouble.
@MNPackman posted:I said what I said because, as we all know, Giannis tends to be a very loyal guy. I dont know what his relationship was like with Bud, none of us do. But, if they happened to be close, this could spell trouble.
You are right, Giannis is very loyal, but he has grown into a realist.
Nurse is a good coach but would run Giannis into the ground
Nurse has been a terrible coach other than the year they had Kawhi. He's under 500 the last 3 years. He missed the playoffs this year with Siakam, FVV, Barnes, and Anunoby. That shouldn't happen.
@lambeausouth posted:Management tried to contact Aaron Rodgers before canning Bud, but they couldn’t get him on the phone.
Use Facetime....I gotta see your face!
I could see this working for Phoenix. This plus running the offense through Durant as opposed to his being the third option.
@wojespn: Mike Budenholzer is emerging as the frontrunner to become the Phoenix Suns’ next coach, sources tell ESPN.
@ilcuqui posted:I could see this working for Phoenix. This plus running the offense through Durant as opposed to his being the third option.
@wojespn: Mike Budenholzer is emerging as the frontrunner to become the Phoenix Suns’ next coach, sources tell ESPN.
Bud's whole defensive system is based on a having a big guy who can protect the rim and having floor spacers. Nurkic, their starting center, is a terrible 3-point shooter, and a poor defender.
He needs someone like Lopez. It would seem like a good opportunity for the Bucks to move Lopez and get younger (and maybe get a good perimeter defender back in return), but the Suns have even fewer assets than the Bucks in terms of draft picks and young players.
I don't think the combo of Durant, Booker, and Beal really works. They are all isolation scorers. Maybe they can flip Beal to a third team that needs offense so they can then send someone useful to the Bucks, so Lopez can go help Bud in Phoenix?
If I’m Bud I would want nothing to do with that team.
Matt Ishbia seems like the NBA version of Jerry Jones or David Tepper. A guy that thinks he knows best about how to build a roster simply because he’s the owner.
Ishbia is on record saying that 26 out of 29 GMs in the league would trade their whole team for the Suns whole team. That’s fucking lunacy.
Bradley Beal is washed up and he can’t stay healthy. On top of that, he’s not a true PG and basically plays a similar role to Devin Booker, who might be a gifted athlete and scorer but he’s no winner. Then there’s the mercurial Kevin Durant. A star player who might have the worst leadership characteristics I can think of over the last 30 years in the NBA.
Not to mention they have no bench or size in the frontcourt.
Bud would be their 3rd head coach in basically a year and a half. Good luck with that!!
@Tschmack posted:Ishbia is on record saying that 26 out of 29 GMs in the league would trade their whole team for the Suns whole team. That’s fucking lunacy.
Who are the 3 teams that wouldn't??
Milwaukee, Boston and Denver?? Because I can add at least 4 more.....
OKC & Minnesota & Dallas & NY Knicks
Dudes a complete moronic jagoff saying that shit.
It was literally one of the dumbest comments I’ve heard. Milwaukee, Boston, Denver, Minnesota, OKC, Dallas, NYK, Sixers, Orlando and maybe the Cavs and New Orleans as well just for starters would not trade the Suns for their rosters.
I mean, if you’re the Wizards or Hornets sure. Probably 8-10 other teams.
The Suns can’t really do a whole lot to improve their roster. They are in worst shape than the Bucks. Basically no picks and two aging former superstars that won’t stay healthy. And Beal has a no trade clause.
To me, Booker is probably a guy you could trade and get back some decent picks and pieces in return.