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Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
McCarthy not promoting enough yoga to keep the guys from getting injured. If McCarthy had forced Jordy to stretch then his ACL would have been loose and not popped.

If Aaron didn't throw it high so that Jordy had to jump for the ball. we would be sitting pretty at 6-0 and not ugly at 6-0. It was preseason Aaron! hit the receivers between the numbers will ya!!

Originally Posted by Talkin2Phil:
Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
McCarthy not promoting enough yoga to keep the guys from getting injured. If McCarthy had forced Jordy to stretch then his ACL would have been loose and not popped.

If Aaron didn't throw it high so that Jordy had to jump for the ball. we would be sitting pretty at 6-0 and not ugly at 6-0. It was preseason Aaron! hit the receivers between the numbers will ya!!

Admit it...you still write in Perot, don't you?

Originally Posted by Pikes Peak:

       

How can there be any pessimists?  Get some of the frontline guys back and all will be well.  6 and 0, nuff said.


       

That's easy- the OL isn't playing particularly well, the loss of Nelson has really made life for Rodgers difficult, and the defense is still susceptible to underneath throws and the rookies are up and down with their play.

The pessimist:

 

Eddie Lacy does not look like the same player.

Khal Bakhtiari does not look like the same player. (Wasn't awesome to start)

We are positive a 2nd year WR is the answer to our passing game issues?

Pass rush was a fluke, back to reality. 

 

The Optimist:

 

Rodgers isn't playing his best ball and we are 6-0

Our competition for Home Field is Cam Newton.

Defense is improved and can actually win a game when Offense struggles.

Datone and Perry actually playing up to potential.

Rookie DB's gaining valuable experience while we are winning. 

Adams will be back for Game 7.

 

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
I think some teams would kill for an OL that is 13th in sacks allowed, 10th in QB hits, and 6th in yards/carry.

 

Do you think those stats remain constant with Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady at QB?

 

I don't.   I think we have one of the best at avoiding hits / sacks with his pocket awareness and mobility.   Only one in his league is Wilson. 

Originally Posted by BrainDed:

The pessimist:

 

Eddie Lacy does not look like the same player.

Khal Bakhtiari does not look like the same player. (Wasn't awesome to start)

We are positive a 2nd year WR is the answer to our passing game issues?

Pass rush was a fluke, back to reality. 

 

The Optimist:

 

Rodgers isn't playing his best ball and we are 6-0

Our competition for Home Field is Cam Newton.

Defense is improved and can actually win a game when Offense struggles.

Datone and Perry actually playing up to potential.

Rookie DB's gaining valuable experience while we are winning. 

Adams will be back for Game 7.

 

I have got to say that your post is the best one I have read since last nights game!

I still have a bad feeling about Phat Eddie this year. His appearance, locker room comments and demeanor seem to indicate a lack of drive and intensity for the game. I hope I am wrong.

Seattle is 32nd in sacks allowed and are on track for a historic number of sacks. If Wilson is in Rodgers class of avoiding sacks then yeah it's definitely all on the Packers OL.

Rodgers is athletic enough to avoid a lot of sacks, but he also moves around too much at times and holds the ball too long at times. He's put the OL in a bind on more than one occasion. I also think he would rather take a sack than try and force a pass in to coverage, as his predecessor was fond of doing.

I love how Rodgers takes care of the ball, even if it means putting the OL into difficult situations. Taking a sack v. chucking it up is smart play, and the Rodgers is one of the best in the NFL at this. Takes very few sacks, and throws very few picks.

 

I'm sure our OL is happy to oblige.

 

This bye week couldn't come at a more perfect time. Just think, when we get back, we should have a healthy Burnett and Adams to add to the attack, facing a noodle armed Peyton Manning, who has beaten the likes of:

BAL

KC

DET

MIN

OAK

CLE

Last edited by Trophies
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
 

I have got to say that your post is the best one I have read since last nights game!

I still have a bad feeling about Phat Eddie this year. His appearance, locker room comments and demeanor seem to indicate a lack of drive and intensity for the game. I hope I am wrong.

None of these comments are new...nor is his weight. Actually, Eddie has been saying these things since he was a rookie. For him, football is just a job.

The biggest positive.  With the exception of Jordy Nelson, every other player of any significance that wasn't playing in the Chargers game or was playing while dinged up is expected to return at what should be close to full strength. I count Lacy and Cobb in this category.

 

Davante Adams, Cobb, Lacy, Montgomery, Morgan Burnett, Raji, Andrew Quarless.

 

That's 7 guys all under 30 (and 4 25 years and younger). Younger guys will tend to heal faster.

 

One first round pick, 3 second round picks, and 2 third round picks and Quarless was a 5th rounder. How many teams would be have significant injuries to that many premium recent draft picks and still be 6-0?

 

As long as Rodgers and Matthews stay healthy, this team will be a Super Bowl contender.

This bye week couldn't come at a more perfect time. Just think, when we get back, we should have a healthy Burnett and Adams to add to the attack, facing a noodle armed Peyton Manning, who has beaten the likes of:

 

He looks horrible, yet the fools at the JSO that vote on the schedule about the Packers winning or losing still have us falling in that one. Denver is a tough place to play and their defense is solid, but I'm hard pressed to see how Manning will hurt us...

Originally Posted by Trophies:

I love how Rodgers takes care of the ball, even if it means putting the OL into difficult situations. Taking a sack v. chucking it up is smart play, and the Rodgers is one of the best in the NFL at this. Takes very few sacks, and throws very few picks.

 

 

There is another option. Taking the short safe pass. Aaron gets greedy at times. I think he is at his best when he attacks with a bunch of slants and short passes to the backs and TEs, and just when the defense is settling in on those, he goes deep.

 

Aaron definitely disagrees with that. He would go deep every time, if he could. I'm sure Olivia gets tired of it, after a while.

Last edited by Goalline
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
 

I have got to say that your post is the best one I have read since last nights game!

I still have a bad feeling about Phat Eddie this year. His appearance, locker room comments and demeanor seem to indicate a lack of drive and intensity for the game. I hope I am wrong.

None of these comments are new...nor is his weight. Actually, Eddie has been saying these things since he was a rookie. For him, football is just a job.

He looks bigger this year and perhaps his lack of interest in the game has finally caught up to him. Again, I hope not. I would love to have those competitive juices (and maybe some protein shakes) flowing again.

Originally Posted by YATittle:

This bye week couldn't come at a more perfect time. Just think, when we get back, we should have a healthy Burnett and Adams to add to the attack, facing a noodle armed Peyton Manning, who has beaten the likes of:

 

He looks horrible, yet the fools at the JSO that vote on the schedule about the Packers winning or losing still have us falling in that one. Denver is a tough place to play and their defense is solid, but I'm hard pressed to see how Manning will hurt us...

It's no secret how Denver has been winning. Their defense has 4 TDs in the 6 games and recovered 8 fumbles (forced 13 total).

 

Denver's RBs have averaged 3.6 yards per carry and Manning has 7 TDs and 10 Interceptions.

 

Limit turnovers and get even a little pressure on Manning and I think this will be a Packer blowout. This is the type of game that Aaron Rodgers wins and Favre would have lost. Throw the ball away and take a sack when necessary.

 

At this point in their careers Phillip Rivers is much better than Peyton Manning. If the Packers DBs can catch some of Manning's ducks, I would predict a Packer pick 6 in this game.

Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Monday press conference:

  • (On career victory No. 100) It's a reflection of our program. I'm focused on the next one. It's a mark I was just made aware of. Speaks hugely about our players and coaches. Takes good program that is consistent to win each and every week. It's something Ted and I are proud of.
  • (On secret formula) The organization lets you be creative and we have excellent players. I have the best coaching staff in the NFL. Our support staff is incredible, the job they do to get our players ready each and every week. It's an excellent operation. Having same quarterback 8 of same 10 years is invaluable.
  • (On bye) Coaches will do a self-scout and then the players will return on Monday.
  • (On offensive lulls) Last two weeks we've had two defenses that just challenged us at the line of scrimmage. Offensively, 49 plays and scoring 27 points you don't feel too bad for that. Third down on both sides of the ball doesn't get it done. We have to make sure we keep it fresh and creative when we get back.
  • (On 6-0 after bye) Really sticking to the basics. Handling success we talk about all the time. It's part of every message. Really reflecting on the past, I don't know if it helps you or not. The message has been the same. 6-0 is a certain level of success. Focus is for our players to step away.
  • (On Ty Montgomery) He has an ankle sprain. Talked to him last night. He's feeling a little better than when took him off the field.
  • (On rookies on bye) I don't know if these guys ever step away from football. That's part of the personal time. Every time there's something like this, there's instruction to the young players. We spend a lot of time talking to the younger players.
  • (On Lacy) He's like whole football team. He's beat up. I don't see conditioning as an issue. James Starks is an outstanding running back. I don't want to run one guy 20 or 25 times. Running back position is extremely punishing. They take a lot of hits. Eddie has a bruising running style. I'm not concerned there. I like one-two punch.
  • (On decision Sunday [to start Starks]) Really always been the mindset. Something the way things worked out. With James on the first series is the product of how he was playing. He was playing well in San Francisco.
  • (On evaluating changes in bye) We're loaded to play a doubleheader if we have to, i mean getting in an out of schemes. What is the next twist in term is something we're in tune with. How are people attacking you, you stay on top of that. Then building on fundamental tapes. San Diego did a great job of their style of release against our corners. We'll work on that. We're going to spend more time on fundamentals next week.
  • (On Janis on offense) We won't play just 11 guys. Jeff's doing a lot of good things. You look at way he played pre-season, the way he started, it's not even close now. He's playing with physicality. He's a powerful athlete, but a lot of things are new for him. He's made a lot of progress as a receiver. We'll see what the future brings.
  • (On Jones' catches) We don't go by that (volume). We don't feature a guy. That's not how we're built. In the passing game, it's one of his strengths, spreading the football around. We have awareness who we're targeting, but I don't go into a game that a guy needs a certain number of targets.
  • (On penalties) I'm aware of it. We're also aware that the officiating crew and who has been officiating. the numbers have been up. The ones that are unacceptable are the pre-snap and the bad decision in combative situations.
  • (On Clinton-Dix penalty) He was competing. I don't fault Ha Ha there.

And that's it for McCarthy.

Last edited by ilcuqui
Originally Posted by cuqui:

Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Monday press conference:

 

(On Lacy) He's like whole football team. He's beat up. I don't see conditioning as an issue. James Starks is an outstanding running back. I don't want to run one guy 20 or 25 times. Running back position is extremely punishing. They take a lot of hits. Eddie has a bruising running style. I'm not concerned there. I like one-two punch.

And that's it for McCarthy.

I bet that the conditioning issue has been brought up before this game.

Maybe Eddie needs to stay away from the punch bowl.

 

Originally Posted by YATittle:

On that last TD drive Sunday he did a lot of short, safe, productive passes, including the dump off to Kuhn that made a grip of yardage... Why does he forget that, and Rivers didn't?

Because he has a big ego, and because he knows he is good. That perfect blend of humility and confidence. It is so hard to attain.

Last edited by Goalline
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
 

I have got to say that your post is the best one I have read since last nights game!

I still have a bad feeling about Phat Eddie this year. His appearance, locker room comments and demeanor seem to indicate a lack of drive and intensity for the game. I hope I am wrong.

None of these comments are new...nor is his weight. Actually, Eddie has been saying these things since he was a rookie. For him, football is just a job.

He looks bigger this year and perhaps his lack of interest in the game has finally caught up to him. Again, I hope not. I would love to have those competitive juices (and maybe some protein shakes) flowing again.

He is injured. Let's not jump to conclusions yet.

Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers' press conference Monday: 

  •  (On positives) Four plays from 3 yards out, we had some guys who stepped up. On the last play Julius Peppers was in Rivers' face and D made the play. Our fourth down situations and Micah Hyde made a good play on the first one. Then on the second one on the last play of the half, we ran a blitz and he read that and floated the ball over us. We caused a fumble and recovered. One thing we didn't get done was make the plays on the ball. We had our hands on the ball. When you play an efficient offense, calls a lot of the game at the line and has quality receivers, we weren't able to break their rhythm. I thought we did a good job against their run game. 
  • (On negatives) Your goal is to disrupt the pass offense and take the ball away. They did a nice job of keeping good second and third-down and distance. Rivers did a nice job when we pressured him. He had someone in mind and when we got someone in free, he threw it away. They made plays. Reason why they're one of the top 1 or 2 offenses in the NFL. Our red zone defense as good as it's been. We have to continue to build on that. Last three weeks our red zone has been good.
  • (On Randall's decision) We were playing zone and his assignment is to put himself in position to break to either route. You can't get too deep. The time before he dropped off far enough that they couldn't make the throw to the tight end. He really did a nice job.
  • (On 7 DBs) When go against backs like these guys, you have to commit two on them. We wanted Rollins in there when Woodhead was in the game. I think that's a package you'll see us use in a match-up game.
  • (On facing Manning) Test we had yesterday was good for us. We can grow from that. He's going to be hard to sack. In the second half, we had some good pressure. He throws an accurate ball. He threw the ball away when he didn't like what he had. You saw us have our hands on two or three balls.
  • (On press coverage) Allen is as good as there is when you press. First three plays of game, they had worked Gates early. We felt based off our corners, if they were going to throw, we would try to contest their throws. You play a soft zone, he'll beat you pretty good. Every series we tried to change things up. We felt we needed to try to contest the throws. I give Allen credit, he's a really good receiver. We gave up two or three plays we shouldn't have given up.
  • (On last drive) One play had great push up the middle. He threw before Gates even turned and he caught it with one hand. Last series we tried to mix coverage. We pressured him and then the last four snaps we showed pressure and then backed out of it.
  • (On Datone Jones) He's like a lot of young guys, you see him make some plays. That's what you want to see. Getting a feel for his role. If you can get two or three plays a game like that, that's (ideal). 
  • (On giving up yards) I don't like the yardage, but I like the way we competed. We've won games in different ways. Winners find a way to win. You never know what play is going to make a difference. In the long run, we'll take some positives out of yesterday. Some games you'll make those plays and some won't. Saw Sam with the ball in his hands and if he makes that it takes a field goal away. We made them work in the red zone. They made plays in the middle of the field. I want to give them credit. Rivers does an excellent job deciphering what you're doing.
  • (On redzone) Our No. 1 point of emphasis is scoring defense. To do that you have to play well in the red zone. Week before we had two interceptions. Sunday we had two fourth-down stops. Fourth and three in the second quarter, most teams will kick a field goal. They changed their mind and scored. 
  • (On Matthews outside) Plan going in that we're going to have a changeup for the second half. In the past if we get where we feel comfortable where Clay can be inside one snap and outside another, we just thought it was a change of pace.

And that's it for Capers.

Last edited by ilcuqui
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
 

I have got to say that your post is the best one I have read since last nights game!

I still have a bad feeling about Phat Eddie this year. His appearance, locker room comments and demeanor seem to indicate a lack of drive and intensity for the game. I hope I am wrong.

None of these comments are new...nor is his weight. Actually, Eddie has been saying these things since he was a rookie. For him, football is just a job.

From June journal sentinel article...  While no one sees him smoking outside a quick trip...its this attitude that makes you think he's out of shape and not really motivated to be in tip top shape. Good thing we have starks

 

"While no one questions Lacy's value and contribution to the Packers in his first two highly productive seasons, it seems people still wonder about his weight β€” and whether a running back that big can hold up in this league.

He's listed at 230 pounds by the team.

Don't count Lacy among the skeptics. Asked if he even wanted to drop 5 pounds, or maintain his weight, Lacy shook off that thinking.

"I'm cool," said Lacy, laughing.

So the player who tweets that he's craving crab legs after a nap and who found comfort food in his mom's crawfish after the season ended doesn't care a wit about that number on the scale, does he?

"No," he said.

While so many of his teammates have spent the off-season getting lean β€” tight end Andrew Quarless did CrossFit, quarterback Aaron Rodgers paid closer attention to nutrition β€” Lacy is completely content.

He does look fit and ready for these organized team activities after a long rest in the off-season. The rest was key after 286 carries and 329 total touches in 2014.

"It took my body a long time," said Lacy, "for all the hits and stuff to go away. Resting definitely helps and after that I got after it a little bit."

Lacy was asked if there was anything other than his workout regimen he could do in the off-season to avoid concussions. Of course there isn't, but Lacy quipped that he will "try not to get hit in the head." So his good humor is in midseason form, too.

He does have a goal for his third season: He wants to be able to start the season strong"

 

 

 

This will happen when your top 3 WRs (for a team who runs lots of 3 and 4 wide formations) are Cobb, Jones (who wasn't with the team until the final cuts), and a rookie. I get that Jones was there for 7 years, but the offense changes each year so it's very probable that Jones is still picking up a few things.

 

 

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