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The Ref fka Blair Kiel posted:

No doubt he is unbelievably good.

He's also a thief, a cheater and a liar. He's also a narcissist of the first magnitude "Chosen? Really?" 

The $ stays......he cost Auburn good booster $$$.

He took some money as a college student. Auburn made 10s of millions off him, he got 200K. Still wrong, but a whole lot different than the types of things Jameis Winston, Greg Hardy, Ray Rice, Lawrence Phillips, and our own Leroy Guion and Andrew Quarless, etc. have done over the years. 

Of course he's a narcissist, many of these guys are. I doubt AR12, CM3, Shields, Peppers, etc. lack confidence and self-assuredness. In fact, it's when guys lose their confidence/arrogance that they tank in the NFL (See: Adams, Davante) 

Talkin2Phil posted:
packerboi posted:

This is getting fugly real quick. The way the Panthers are playing, I just have a feeling with no Cobb, Jordy, Adams, or Monty we'd be getting our ass kicked next week.

I would like our chances with Janis and Abby.

I like the enthusiasm, but not realistic. Carolina's defense is way better than Arizona's, if only because Carolina may have the best ILBs in the league. And Norman is almost as good as Patrick Peterson. 

Also, Cam Newton presents big problems because of his running ability and Greg Olsen is a tough TE to cover for anyone. 

Green Bay at Carolina would have been a beat down (the Vegas line might have been 10 points or more), but it would have been nice to have a chance to pull off a monumental upset. 

watchign it down here in North Carolina, wife is from Charlotte and Panthers get 2nd tier treatment here in the house, so folks are going absolutely nuts - and rightfully so.

how in the hell did the Panthers get so dominant so quickly? We waxed them last year, in a season where they only won 7 games. They lost Steve Smith, Benjamin -their best WR- goes out for the year and everyone has them buried.

Doesnt make sense. Gotta have one hell of a staff. Cant all be Riverboat Ron...

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