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Bucks up 18 as Bickerstaff waives the white flag with 5 minutes left.

Bucks with a great win without Middleton, Holiday, G. Allen, Connaughton, and Matthews and with Giannis having a terrible game on offense (6 for 18 from the field, 0 for 2 from three, and 4 for 11 from the line).

Lopez was on fire. One of the best games Nwora has ever played.

Giannis is 30 for his last 76 from the floor. Maybe the knee isn't quite right yet?

Hell, we’re missing everyone else. Might as well give Giannis a few days off to get right, assuming that a short term rest will solve the problem (hopefully it’s nothing more serious)

They’ve lost five straight, but Cleveland are still a pretty good team, overall. Beating them to move to 11-3 missing so many players, and with an off night from Giannis, could pay real dividends later in the season as the playoffs draw near. Other players are stepping up in a big way.

I wonder just how good this team might be at full strength.

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I’m not sure why teams like Chicago and Cleveland and Minnesota and Brooklyn think they can just try to outscore everyone but the game is still about defense and rebounding.  

Milwaukee had 52 boards v 34 for Cleveland.   The Cavs would literally have to shoot like 70% from 3 to overcome that disadvantage.  

When you look at current rosters there’s literally no way a busted up half strength team like Milwaukee should beat a full strength, very talented Cleveland team by 20.  But they did and will continue to do so because Giannis and Lopez are still dominant defensively and just about every role player other than Nwora can play above average D and hit the glass.  

Other than Boston I’m sure every other team in the East knows it’s over if and when Milwaukee gets guys back healthy.   Atlanta and Cleveland and Chicago can get all the pub for adding more scorers and shooters but they simply do not and will not match up and beat the Bucks over the course of a playoff series.  Hell, Boston may not either.  

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@Tschmack posted:

I’m not sure why teams like Chicago and Cleveland and Minnesota and Brooklyn think they can just try to outscore everyone but the game is still about defense and rebounding.  

Milwaukee had 52 boards v 34 for Cleveland.   The Cavs would literally have to shoot like 70% from 3 to overcome that disadvantage.  

When you look at current rosters there’s literally no way a busted up half strength team like Milwaukee should beat a full strength, very talented Cleveland team by 20.  But they did and will continue to do so because Giannis and Lopez are still dominant defensively and just about every role player other than Nwora can play above average D and hit the glass.  

Other than Boston I’m sure every other team in the East knows it’s over if and when Milwaukee gets guys back healthy.   Atlanta and Cleveland and Chicago can get all the pub for adding more scorers and shooters but they simply do not and will not match up and beat the Bucks over the course of a playoff series.  Hell, Boston may not either.  

I think Boston has to be the favorite, for the same reasons that Milwaukee is #2 plus a better rotation 1-7. They have a great defensive team. I hate Marcus Smart, but he's a dirtier version of Jrue Holiday. Robert Williams is an all-defensive team member. Horford is very good on that end as well. And the biggest difference now is that Tatum has matured. The scouts used to say his weakness was that he'd rather score 30 and lose than score 15 and win. Now that he's established, he's less selfish and he's also putting more effort in on defense. Jaylen Brown is obviously also an all-star.

Boston has Tatum, Brown, Horford, R. Williams, G. Williams, Smart, and Brogdon. Derrick White is their 8th guy and then their depth drops off a cliff.

Bucks are better 1-3 (Giannis, Middleton, Holiday) vs. Tatum, Brown, Smart.

Celtics are better 4-7 (R. Williams, Horford, Brogdon, and G. Williams) vs. Lopez, Portis, Connaughton, and G. Allen. Brogdon is a huge get for them this offseason and they gave up zero to get him.

Bucks are vastly superior 8-13 and it's not even close (Carter, Hill, Ibaka, Matthews, Beauchamp, Nwora). The Celtics have guys like Hauser, Pritchard, Kornet, and Vonleh in those spots.

If it comes down to a playoff series at full strength, it will be decided by those guys that get playing time when the rotations get tightened to 7-8 guys and whose non-stars hit open shots. The wild card in all this is what happens with G. Allen's minutes. He was abysmal against the Celtics last year. If Ingles can take over those minutes and be the player he was in Utah- the Bucks are in great shape. Maybe the Bucks get Jae Crowder for Allen and he gets those minutes?

Giannis' recent dip is something to keep an eye on.

@fmaddenNBA
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Giannis November shooting splits: .410/.143/.609 including 6/45 shooting outside the restricted area (1/21 over last 3 games). Thank goodness for Brook Lopez…

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