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Music City posted:

How is that not a foul???? Giannis is flying through the lane, and gets forearmed in the shoulder/chest and stops.   

Horford has a reputation as a "defensive stopper." That means he can shove guys with impunity. It's not just Giannis - he does the same thing to Embiid. 

Not to mention the Celtics lack of scoring which was definitely partly because of excellent Buck's defense, but, man, for their own part, Celtics offense looked bad.

The Bucks now absolutely know they can beat the Celtics.

Boston facing some adversity for the first time in these playoffs. 

If the Bucks can manage to steal game #3, Kyrie might just check out  He may already be starting. 

Let's see what happens in game #3

Here’s the other thing 

The Celtics took 27 FT attempts in Milwaukee.  The fouls were nearly even. Yet they got beat by 21 and honestly it wasn’t that close. 

If Boston isn’t shooting a high percentage I’m not sure they can beat Milwaukee straight up.  Why do you think they are getting so chippy and physical?  They know they can’t play the Bucks and trade baskets because regardless of what Paul Pierce thinks they aren’t better. 

Agree Boris.  To me game 3 is critical.  If the Bucks come out and actually punch Boston in the mouth and win it then they steal back home court advantage and no one will care about what happened in game 1.  

The Bucks won the game by 21 shooting 43%. They hit 20-47 threes. The Bucks shot well from 3, but it wasn’t like it was a huge outlier. And all those shots were there in game one- they just went in. Not at an outrageous clip, except for Middleton. And while Khash did make a few pull-ups and a couple step backs (which he does), there were a bunch of widen open looks. There were a bunch in game one, too. 

Both teams got cold in the 3rd Q and lost control of the game- Bucks in game 1, Celtics in game 2.  

And Giannis is starting to slither into those creases. Horford can’t sustain the pummeling Giannis is giving him for 7 games. Perhaps that was part of the strategy and why he’s forcing it so much- Horford will wear down, and Giannis may be cracking the foundation. 

Game 3 isn’t a must win, but if they can it pretty much ends the series IMO. Again- the Bucks were not just lucky and uncharacteristically made a bunch of shots. 43%? This is what they do. They’ve been doing it all season. 

It sure would be nice to win game 3 just to erase the stink of losing every road game vs. Boston in the 2018 playoffs.  It's going to be tough.  I expect foul calls to go heavily in the Celtics favor at their place so the Bucks will have to play even better than they did tonite to come out with a win.

Let's just hope we continue to see Middleton's A+ game.  He seems to be the guy the Celtics have a problem with when he's dialed in like he was tonight.  After some shakiness in the beginning, Bledsoe played well too.

Usually the Bucks win when at least 2 of the 3 of Giannis, Middleton, and Bledsoe play well.  In game one, only Middleton showed up.  In game two, all of them did. They need more of game two - or at least closer to game two in order to win the game on Friday.  

Like I said on Sunday, if this is how the officials will call it (allowing physical play) then you need to adjust and match Boston’s style.  Milwaukee is adjusting; they just need to play their game and should be OK. 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tschmack posted:

No way the Celtics shoot again like they did in game 1 

Fluke 

 

Kyrie is not going to go 4-18 again either. 

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re a “glass half empty” kind of guy.

 

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Music City posted:

The Bucks won the game by 21 shooting 43%. They hit 20-47 threes. The Bucks shot well from 3, but it wasn’t like it was a huge outlier. And all those shots were there in game one- they just went in. Not at an outrageous clip, except for Middleton. And while Khash did make a few pull-ups and a couple step backs (which he does), there were a bunch of widen open looks. There were a bunch in game one, too. 

Both teams got cold in the 3rd Q and lost control of the game- Bucks in game 1, Celtics in game 2.  

And Giannis is starting to slither into those creases. Horford can’t sustain the pummeling Giannis is giving him for 7 games. Perhaps that was part of the strategy and why he’s forcing it so much- Horford will wear down, and Giannis may be cracking the foundation. 

Game 3 isn’t a must win, but if they can it pretty much ends the series IMO. Again- the Bucks were not just lucky and uncharacteristically made a bunch of shots. 43%? This is what they do. They’ve been doing it all season. 

Both teams got cold in the 3rd Q and lost control of the game- Bucks in game 1, Celtics in game 2.  

Da Bucks had a let down game and their bad 3rd quarter was a "one-off" in my opinion.

Boston doesn't have that excuse...cold 3rd quarters are often a sign of more bad things to come.

 

Back to Kyrie 

In their 4 game series with Indiana he had one game similar to game 1 v the Bucks.  The other three games he shot about 34% from the field.  

Not sure he will shoot 22% from the field again, but shooting 57% from the field isn’t likely either. 

 

 

Tschmack posted:

Middleton JFC 

He is a combo of MJ, LeBron, and Steph when they play the Celtics 

Great to see Bledsoe step up today 

I don't like to look at it that way and this may undervalue Middleton.

Now, I don't know his performance against Detroit, but the Bucks crushed them anyway so I don't think it matters much.

I want to believe Middleton's stellar play is less because the opponent is the Celtics and more because the games have all been extremely pivotal playoff games.

Maybe Middleton is showing himself to be an excellent clutch player.  That's what I want to think.

Tavis Smiley posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tschmack posted:

No way the Celtics shoot again like they did in game 1 

Fluke 

 

Kyrie is not going to go 4-18 again either. 

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re a “glass half empty” kind of guy.

 

If you realize how good Irving is offensively, you have to know your comment is simply off-base.

Sure the Buck's defense contributed to his stat line, but Kyrie Irving is so good offensively that he has to be the main reason for his dismal stat line.

Tschmack posted:

Back to Kyrie 

In their 4 game series with Indiana he had one game similar to game 1 v the Bucks.  The other three games he shot about 34% from the field.  

Not sure he will shoot 22% from the field again, but shooting 57% from the field isn’t likely either. 

 

 

Excellent point.  Didn't realize he was only 34% for three games.

Tavis Smiley posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tschmack posted:

No way the Celtics shoot again like they did in game 1 

Fluke 

 

Kyrie is not going to go 4-18 again either. 

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re a “glass half empty” kind of guy.

 

No. Just a realist.Kyrie is a future Hall of Famer. He has shot 41% for his career from 3 during the playoffs. He's hit one of the biggest pressure shots in Finals  history (the 3 that won Game 7 for Cleveland against the Warriors). He is probably going to go off at least once more during the series and win the Celtics a game, but so is Giannis on our side. 

The Bucks obviously can win this series - and Giannis has not really gotten going yet. As well as he played in the 3rd quarter, he was still only 5-12 from inside the paint. He's shooting 64% on the year from 2. That's what should make us feel "glass half-full." He did get to the line and convert last night, but Giannis missed 3-4 of those "and-1" shots that he usually hits last night. The ones where he gets shoved or bumped and then hits the off-balance 5 footer after the whistle. I think he just needs to adjust to how much contact they are allowing Horford to get away with. If and when he does that, we'll be in really good shape. 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tavis Smiley posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tschmack posted:

No way the Celtics shoot again like they did in game 1 

Fluke 

 

Kyrie is not going to go 4-18 again either. 

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re a “glass half empty” kind of guy.

 

No. Just a realist.Kyrie is a future Hall of Famer. He has shot 41% for his career from 3 during the playoffs. He's hit one of the biggest pressure shots in Finals  history (the 3 that won Game 7 for Cleveland against the Warriors). He is probably going to go off at least once more during the series and win the Celtics a game, but so is Giannis on our side. 

The Bucks obviously can win this series - and Giannis has not really gotten going yet. As well as he played in the 3rd quarter, he was still only 5-12 from inside the paint. He's shooting 64% on the year from 2. That's what should make us feel "glass half-full." He did get to the line and convert last night, but Giannis missed 3-4 of those "and-1" shots that he usually hits last night. The ones where he gets shoved or bumped and then hits the off-balance 5 footer after the whistle. I think he just needs to adjust to how much contact they are allowing Horford to get away with. If and when he does that, we'll be in really good shape. 

TNT at the half criticized Bud's offensive scheme with respect to its interior half court offense.  They could not understand why the Bucks are having Giannis dribble into the wall rather than doing things like pick and rolls.

I have to admit, I am perplexed as well.  Why not schematically make things a little harder for the Celtics inside defense?

I was just messing around. Michigan obviously knows the game and the Bucks much better than a lot of us. Just reading Page 1 and Game 1 analysis put me in depressed state. Boston is obviously playing at a higher level than they have all season and the Bucks aren’t able to do everything their game plan calls for, but it’s a long series and seeing how they adjust just shows how good they can be as a team. Holding back from being too reactionary to Game 1 and/or a swing here or there. I think the series starts now. 

phaedrus posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tavis Smiley posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Tschmack posted:

No way the Celtics shoot again like they did in game 1 

Fluke 

 

Kyrie is not going to go 4-18 again either. 

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re a “glass half empty” kind of guy.

 

No. Just a realist.Kyrie is a future Hall of Famer. He has shot 41% for his career from 3 during the playoffs. He's hit one of the biggest pressure shots in Finals  history (the 3 that won Game 7 for Cleveland against the Warriors). He is probably going to go off at least once more during the series and win the Celtics a game, but so is Giannis on our side. 

The Bucks obviously can win this series - and Giannis has not really gotten going yet. As well as he played in the 3rd quarter, he was still only 5-12 from inside the paint. He's shooting 64% on the year from 2. That's what should make us feel "glass half-full." He did get to the line and convert last night, but Giannis missed 3-4 of those "and-1" shots that he usually hits last night. The ones where he gets shoved or bumped and then hits the off-balance 5 footer after the whistle. I think he just needs to adjust to how much contact they are allowing Horford to get away with. If and when he does that, we'll be in really good shape. 

TNT at the half criticized Bud's offensive scheme with respect to its interior half court offense.  They could not understand why the Bucks are having Giannis dribble into the wall rather than doing things like pick and rolls.

I have to admit, I am perplexed as well.  Why not schematically make things a little harder for the Celtics inside defense?

To me his best play of the night (during the 3rd quarter run) was when he dribbled into the wall and passed to a wide open Middleton in the left corner for a 3.  Don't need any fancy schematics  drawn up for that, hit the open guy.  

Basketball 101.

Pikes Peak posted:
Don't need any fancy schematics  drawn up for that, hit the open guy.  

Basketball 101.

Nailed it.

I also like when Giannis dribbled down the side of the lane & slammed it when the "wall" was lined up shoulder to shoulder (North/South) in the lane. 

Yes please keep playing that defense Boston. 

Game 1 - 81% of Bucks shots were contested

Game 2 - 54% of Bucks shots were contested

More of Game 2, none of Game 1 please!

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