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@packerboi posted:
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NFC North after Week 8: Packers: 7-1 Vikings: 3-4 Bears: 3-5 Lions: 0-8 Green Bay practice squad could win this division.

The NFC North has been bad for a loooong time. Is it worse than ever in 2021?

This may be the worst Lions team ever and that is not hyperbole.

The Bears D peaked 2-3 years ago, and has possibly the most anemic offense in the NFL.

The Queens have talent, but the Zimmer era has reached Mike McCarthy 2018 level of staleness and Kirk Cousins will never be anything more than a .500 QB while being paid like one of the elites.

Go Pack Go.

Due to my unhealthy MN obsession I rewatched condensed game this AM. I agree with the Cousins comments. I wonโ€™t lie, sometimes I think the guy is about to breakthrough and live up to that contract, but he always seems to revert to what he is, a C+ QB.
Dallas ran the ball well in the 1st half, but their run game was nonexistent in the 2nd half and that Rush kid made some great throws and made Geddy Lee and Neil Peart proud. Those receivers are studs.
Harrison Smithโ€™s penalty on the last drive essentially gift wrapped the game for Dallas as did Zekeโ€™s screen pass stud run for a 1st down. The play of #11 Parsons shows me why Dallas waived Jaylon Smith. That guy is a player.

Thatโ€™s probably more comments then you ever want to hear regarding a Dallas or MN game, but I felt I had to get it off my chest or else Iโ€™d burst. Great to see the Vikings shit the bed at home on National TV.

The Viking's clock management last night made Andy Reid's look stellar. A deadball timeout on defense following their own timeout? To give up 5 yards?

Cousins has a 45 million dollar cap hit for 2022. The Vikings really need to restructure that contract, but they'll likely have to guarantee him even more money to do it.

Cousins is a case where statistics mislead you. He's started 111 games now and if you look at his statistics without context, he looks like a Future HOFer. He's 7th all-time in QB ranking (footballreference.com). I've pasted a screenshot from that site below, but every player around him (save for Deshaun Watson and Prescott who are both still young) is a HOFer or future HOFer (except Romo). But Cousins is the only player of the top 15 to have a losing record (54-55-2).



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The candles have been lit for Zimmer. For a supposed defensive genius to let a QB who had three passing attempts prior to yesterday rip apart the Vikings for 325 yards is unreal. And of course, they look across the border and see how a MASH unit was able to hold a much better QB to 274 yards and get a win against an unbeaten team... well, the Vikings brass has to be unhappy.

Cousins' record prior to last night was 52-52 and that's who he is. He had a 66% completion rate last night but the telling stat was this: 1-13 on third downs. If a QB can't convert on third down, he's not a quality QB no matter how many yards he throws for nor how many passes he completes.

May he stay in MN until he's 40!

Itโ€™s ironic that one of the defining games in Cousins football career is his Hail Mary play at Michigan State to beat the Russell Wilson Badgers.  That UW team was loaded and Kark came up big for them.  

Other than that, I canโ€™t think of a guy that has wilted as much as him when the pressure is on or they need a key play in a key moment of a game.  Heโ€™s one of the most unclutch professionals in any sport I can think of when you look at his body of work and his stats.

@Fandame posted:

I was handing out candy in my GB sweatshirt when some smart alec neighbor came by in his Vikings hat. He looked at me and said, "What are you supposed to be -- a semiprofessional football..." And I looked back at him and said, "I'm a winner!" Dude turned around and walked away without another word or a glance back. 

Later, it was proven true. 

Had a kid in town come to the house in Packer uni with "Starr" on the back .....quite a rarity in the Finger Lakes Region of NY State! Needless to say, he got more than one piece of candy!

@Tschmack posted:

Itโ€™s ironic that one of the defining games in Cousins football career is his Hail Mary play at Michigan State to beat the Russell Wilson Badgers.  That UW team was loaded and Kark came up big for them.  

Other than that, I canโ€™t think of a guy that has wilted as much as him when the pressure is on or they need a key play in a key moment of a game.  Heโ€™s one of the most unclutch professionals in any sport I can think of when you look at his body of work and his stats.

Wilson came back and beat Cousins' MSU team in the Big 10 title game that year, but the Badgers losing on Hail Mary passes two games in row (at MSU and at Ohio State) prevented them from making the BCS playoff with what you point out was probably the most talented offensive team they've ever had.

14 offensive guys on the roster played in the NFL.

Wilson. Three RBs (M. Ball, James White, Melvin Gordon). A bunch of lineman some of whom were high picks and/or had long NFL careers (Kevin Zeitler, Ricky Wagner, Peter Konz, Travis Frederick, Havenstein, Ryan Groy). Even the FB (Bradie Ewing), the TE (Byrne), and two the WRS (Abbrederis and Nick Toon) played in the NFL.

A good story about Cousins. Cousins is from the Grand Rapids, Michigan area (actually Holland, MI). There was a kid from another local high school who was one of the top recruits in the Midwest in 2007 (Keith Nicol). Nicol was recruited to Oklahoma as a QB (and chose that over MSU, Wisconsin, and a couple of others), but got beat out in camp by Sam Bradford. He transferred to MSU and sat out 2008 thinking he'd be the QB in 2009, but he got beat out by Cousins in camp. If he'd have gone to MSU to begin with in 2007, he probably is the starting QB for 2008 and Cousins sits on the bench for a while as a backup after arriving in 2009.

Nicol converted to WR and was the guy that caught the Cousins Hail Mary to beat the Badgers. Keith Nicol was a guy that was good enough to compete against two guys that were NFL starting QBs, but ended up as a financial planner. Cousins is going to make north of 200 million in his career and Bradford made over 100 million.

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