Andrew Brandt writing about the Peyton Manning situation:
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Wonder if he's called Brett for advice yet.
Just don't text Brett.
The have to cut him. The numbers are just to ugly if they keep him. And I suspect he is a high risk player injurry wise. What happens if they pay him and he has another injurry, they are in a world of hurt.
62 million over 2 years for one player when you are trying to rebuild a team? As great has Manning has been in his career I think the Colts have to come to an injury settlement, trade him, or cut him. To tie up 50 million in one position with Luck is another crazy thing they just have to move on.
Part 1: will Peyton be playing somewhere else in 2012?
Part 2: if he will be, where? That's the more interesting question. Who is on the verge of SB contention but needs and would be willing to rent Manning for a couple years? (assuming he doesn't have to retire).
Part 2: if he will be, where? That's the more interesting question. Who is on the verge of SB contention but needs and would be willing to rent Manning for a couple years? (assuming he doesn't have to retire).
I wonder if Baltimore would be a good spot for him? Flacco has had success but they seem to have become a bit stagnant.
Why would anyone trade for him? The only thing they can do is cut him and cut him hard. Unless of course he decides to renegotiate or delay payment until he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is healthy.
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:
I wonder if Baltimore would be a good spot for him? Flacco has had success but they seem to have become a bit stagnant.
A Colt going to Baltimore.
You know, I LIKE it!
Think dome ... can you say Cowgirls, Cardinals or Queens?
I think he knows better than to go to MIN. Brett and Donovan, not so much.
I hadn't thought of the Cowboys. Jerry would pony up. Jerry made the comment about Eli being the only difference between the Giants and Cowboys this week. Hmmmmmm....
He'll be on the street. Cowgirls are calling.
Think dome with natural turf. Sign Peyton and cut Kolb!
If I'm Peyton I'm thinking only about legacy and championships. He will be calling Jim Harbaugh, methinks. IIRC Peyton succeeded Harbaugh as the Colts QB.
Old legends to new teams:
Unitas
Namath
Montana
Favre
Works out not so well.
Unitas
Namath
Montana
Favre
Works out not so well.
Looks simple to me. If Manning wants to stay in Indy all he has to do is take less money. I guess we'll find out which is more important to him, like I have to guess.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
Old legends to new teams:
Unitas
Namath
Montana
Favre
Works out not so well.
Well, I grant you two were trainwrecks but two went to teams that definitely wouldn't have advanced as far in the playoffs as they did (their first seasons) without them.
There are examples of old bucks pushing a team over over the top. Brad Johnson and the Bucs come to mind. Kurt Warner and the Cards....
They gotta rewrite the contract or let him go. Ridiculous amount of money for someone who may not play another down.
If you take emotion out of it, which never really happens, Manning would be wise to stay with the Colts. The only way this happens is if he can delay his bonus or take much less of a bonus this year. Nobody is going to pay him top dollar if they are not sure he can play. Also, Manning is a creature of habit. He's been in the same offense for a long time. Switching to a new team may be pretty tough for him. If he stays with the Colts this year, plays up to his standards and stays healthy, his stock will be through the roof the year after.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DocBenni:
I Also, Manning is a creature of habit. He's been in the same offense for a long time. Switching to a new team may be pretty tough for him.
The truth is his old team will be a new team for him....from GM to head coach to position coaches to players. Very little of the Colts from 2 yrs ago remains.
I Also, Manning is a creature of habit. He's been in the same offense for a long time. Switching to a new team may be pretty tough for him.
The truth is his old team will be a new team for him....from GM to head coach to position coaches to players. Very little of the Colts from 2 yrs ago remains.
quote:Originally posted by Red Dawn:
Think dome with natural turf. Sign Peyton and cut Kolb!
One of the local Phoenix news station was speculating this very thing the other night. He said it could very well happen.
quote:The truth is his old team will be a new team for him....from GM to head coach to position coaches to players. Very little of the Colts from 2 yrs ago remains.
I agree. I don't see why Peyton would WANT to stay in Indy with all of the turnover going on. The new regime will very likely have a new offense so he'll have to learn a new one no matter what.
There are only a few that Manning will consider and none of them are in the West
Given the Bidwell history in AZ, that one is definitely out
Chargers are certainly off the list
Seattle, zero chance he wants to live there
No way he works with Rex Ryan
vikings, zero chance
Cleveland with Holmy ? maybe
Back to Tennessee ? perhaps
Miami ? maybe but Ross doesn't seem like a smart owner
St Louis Rams ? maybe, and that would be very enticing to the League if they moved Manning and the Rams back to LA
He can pick and choose his landing spot
Given the Bidwell history in AZ, that one is definitely out
Chargers are certainly off the list
Seattle, zero chance he wants to live there
No way he works with Rex Ryan
vikings, zero chance
Cleveland with Holmy ? maybe
Back to Tennessee ? perhaps
Miami ? maybe but Ross doesn't seem like a smart owner
St Louis Rams ? maybe, and that would be very enticing to the League if they moved Manning and the Rams back to LA
He can pick and choose his landing spot
My top three (in no particular order):
NYJ: Veteran, sane presence that will immediately install some professionalism and maybe put a veteran team over the top.
Baltimore: Same as above but with sanity and professionalism.
Dallas: Jerry is getting anxious and already backhanded Romo this offseason. Garrett went to a conservative game plan at the end of games last year in fear of a Romo mistake. This makes sense if Dallas can dump Romo.
NYJ: Veteran, sane presence that will immediately install some professionalism and maybe put a veteran team over the top.
Baltimore: Same as above but with sanity and professionalism.
Dallas: Jerry is getting anxious and already backhanded Romo this offseason. Garrett went to a conservative game plan at the end of games last year in fear of a Romo mistake. This makes sense if Dallas can dump Romo.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
There are only a few that Manning will consider and none of them are in the West
Seattle, zero chance he wants to live there
He can pick and choose his landing spot
Curious as to why you say he would not want to live in Seattle? He lived in Indy for 14 yrs for cripes sake. I've been to both, no contest IMHO.
My apologies Pikes Peak, I meant no slam on Seattle, its an absolutely beautiful city and cool place to hang out. We had a blast at SeaFair last summer
My comment was in relation to marketing opportunities, distance from his family in New Orleans & New York City and the lack of historical significance for the Seahawks franchise
My comment was in relation to marketing opportunities, distance from his family in New Orleans & New York City and the lack of historical significance for the Seahawks franchise
Is it even confirmed that he can throw much less be ready to play this fall?
the plan is for him to Mike Samuel his way through next year
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
There are only a few that Manning will consider and none of them are in the West
Given the Bidwell history in AZ, that one is definitely out
Seattle, zero chance he wants to live there
He can pick and choose his landing spot
Regarding Bidwill, the old man is not calling the shots any more. Reference the contract Fitz got. And then there's the opportunity to throw to Fitz....
And much as I hate the 'hags, Seattle is a nice place. But I hope you are right, I would hate to see Manning end up there.
He might have an issue with St Louis. They gave up 55 sacks last year.
Aurthur Blank is kicking his ass for giving Matt Ryan 6 year deal in 2008.
Manning would be PERFECT for Atlanta. Line gives up zero sacks. Manning makes a good running game great. Julio Jones, Roddy White, Gonzales. Indoors. Manning is closer to home. They would have a legitimate two year window at making the SB.
Instead he gets to watch Matty Melt break his heart for two more years.
Aurthur Blank is kicking his ass for giving Matt Ryan 6 year deal in 2008.
Manning would be PERFECT for Atlanta. Line gives up zero sacks. Manning makes a good running game great. Julio Jones, Roddy White, Gonzales. Indoors. Manning is closer to home. They would have a legitimate two year window at making the SB.
Instead he gets to watch Matty Melt break his heart for two more years.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
My apologies Pikes Peak, I meant no slam on Seattle, its an absolutely beautiful city and cool place to hang out. We had a blast at SeaFair last summer
My comment was in relation to marketing opportunities, distance from his family in New Orleans & New York City and the lack of historical significance for the Seahawks franchise
Well, IF he can throw (and that is a big if ) he could get a gig at the fish market!
I can't imagine Peyton choosing an outdoor, cold-weather city. A dome, or maybe Miami, would be the likeliest choices.
quote:Originally posted by Pikes Peak:
Well, IF he can throw (and that is a big if ) he could get a gig at the fish market!
Mongerer.
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
the plan is for him to Mike Samuel his way through next year
So you're saying, hide the booze?
He should go to Jacksonville. He'll be down south, close to home. He'll be on a team that gets to stick it to the Colts twice a year. And the Jags would actually pretty good with Peyton, as they already have a great RB and a solid defense. Replace Gabbert with Manning and you have an AFC South Champion. This also gives you a chance to develop Gabbert, who clearly wasn't ready to play this year.
Redskins are also a possibility, but I doubt Peyton wants to work for a control freak like Shanahan. Miami is a possibility too, but I think Philbin brings in Flynn.
Redskins are also a possibility, but I doubt Peyton wants to work for a control freak like Shanahan. Miami is a possibility too, but I think Philbin brings in Flynn.
I don't think it is very likely that Manning ever plays again. If he does, I do not think he will have the same impact as he did pre-2011.
Any team that signs him will be creating a Brett Favre situation. Look at the mess Favre created in Minny. He gave them one great season and one terrible season, and now they have a vacuum at the position.
Any team that signs him will be creating a Brett Favre situation. Look at the mess Favre created in Minny. He gave them one great season and one terrible season, and now they have a vacuum at the position.
