Some very curious coverage schemes last night. EVERY one of the Skins big plays were between the hashes even though we were supposedly playing "cover 2"....why were our safeties continually sprinting outside the hashes when it appeared that those throws would be most effected by the wind? I realize we are decimated at CB, but it seems that our scheme left them (and in one case Joe Thomas) in single coverage on deep routes with no safety help. Anyone have any insight on this?
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Let me check with Capers.
Start by covering somebody, preferably a receiver.
The "let's confuse 'em with my wizardry" defensive scheme? In other threads I wondered the same thing: where were the safeties last night to give help down the middle?
I'd like to see Kenny Clark matched up with Jordan Mathews next week.
They were up near the line to blitz or help stop the run.
Yeah, I found it curious when it's clamored to not sit back in a soft coverage and attack. Well, I saw the safety's around the LOS a lot last night, and it was soon discovered the CB's are overmatched.
Maybe that's the reason for the soft zones?
Yes, that was some fine coaching. Lets blitz the most experienced guys in the defensive backfield and leave the 4th string CB's in man coverage. Brilliant!!!
There's an article on NFL.com discussing GB's coverage woes, including a breakdown of passer rating by secondary personnel. Staggeringly bad (e.g., QB rating against Rollins is a perfect 158). I get Gunter's limitations and he's shown he's at least a capable player at times. Rollins has been a complete disappointment. Hyde is just too slow - why can't Hawkins at least get on the field?
Barancyk and Dougherty have an article on packersnews.com all but absolving Dom of any blame due to injuries. However, Dom has all of his preferred starters along the DL and OLB and the production there has been terrible - they dwell very little on that. I get the feeling that Dom will get another pass because of injuries, and that's unfortunate.
When you consistently draft in the bottom of the rounds it's hard to get anyone with a QB rating under 158
It also doesn't help when you're having to play a young, press-man corner, a banged up, struggling, raw corner, two guys who can't play man basically at all and none of them can run with Jackson or Garcon while there's no pass rush to speak of.
Are Randall/Rollins TT's Thomas/Carroll? Way too early to claim that, IMO.
I went back & looked at all of the Skins big pass plays. ALL of them were in the middle of the field with no safety in view. I would think that with the state of our CB situation, the main focus would be to not give up big plays, which is typically accomplished by keeping your safeties deep, and making offenses be patient and score TDs in the red zone.
That's on Capers, "and then all hell broke loose".
Still vividly recall the game in '09 when Big Ben put up over 500 yards. Caper's defenses have struggled against the better QBs even when healthy.
Capers needs a full clip. He's no John McClane outside the vault in the Nakatomi Tower.... Yippee-ki-yay, mother****er
who does that make him then?
Pretty much.
There's a rather large amount of making chicken salad out of chicken **** here. Seattle does it with their offensive line, having Tom Cable and the ZBS, TT did it here with Perry and the safeties while whiffing on defensive tackles. However, at the end of the day, there's really not much tallant on the defensive side of the ball, period.
They one brittle all-pro-level player in Matthews.
They have two solid NFL starters in Burnett and Shields. Daniels probably fits in here also, though he has flashed more big plays.
They have a guy who have flashed but is inconsistent in Clinton-Dix.
And a bunch of guys.
At best.
Who is making the chicken salad?
This guy 
or this guy? 
Oh, since it's almost the Christmas season, is Die Hard a great Christmas movie?
No, it is the great Christmas movie
You had me at no.
michiganjoe posted:Still vividly recall the game in '09 when Big Ben put up over 500 yards. Caper's defenses have struggled against the better QBs even when healthy.
That same season at the bitter end, we watched Kurt Warner basically put up a near perfect game against them in the playoff game that we lost on the Rodgers fumble (with the ref ignoring the facemask call!!!). The defense was absolutely incompetent that day. The strange thing about that year was that the defense was one of the best in terms of not giving up many yards. But when they faced a QB who was elite or near elite, they looked like the worst defense in the league.
The injuries are the reason the D is historically bad rather than just run-of-the-mill bad. I don't think we'll see the gutting some are hoping for, but I don't see any way Dom is back.
BrainDed posted:I'd like to see Kenny Clark matched up with Jordan Mathews next week.
Good idea! Increase the speed on the perimeter by replacing Gunter with Clark.
Herschel posted:There's a rather large amount of making chicken salad out of chicken **** here. Seattle does it with their offensive line, having Tom Cable and the ZBS, TT did it here with Perry and the safeties while whiffing on defensive tackles. However, at the end of the day, there's really not much tallant on the defensive side of the ball, period.
They one brittle all-pro-level player in Matthews.
They have two solid NFL starters in Burnett and Shields. Daniels probably fits in here also, though he has flashed more big plays.
They have a guy who have flashed but is inconsistent in Clinton-Dix.
And a bunch of guys.
At best.
It's truly a miracle they've won any games at all...
Yes, it is.
A Festivus Miracle!
The Ref is quietly becoming my favorite Christmas movie.
IL_Pack_Fan posted:The injuries are the reason the D is historically bad rather than just run-of-the-mill bad. I don't think we'll see the gutting some are hoping for, but I don't see any way Dom is back.
I agree completely. I know injuries should not be an excuse but sooner or later you are going to run out of a player as next man up. Think about it for a second.
Top 3-4 CB's are out for pretty much the whole year
Mathews missed a few games
Ryan is out your starting ILB
And then you add on top of it the offense is being hit harshly by injuries as well which makes them not as good and puts even more pressure on a horrendous defense. If you cant run the ball at all, run the clock with passing to a TE, or make the opposing defense honest you will struggle.
Now all that being said I completely agree that Capers time is up and it should be. I think opposing teams have figured out his scheme and it isn't just this year his defenses have been soft, passive, and gashed for huge amounts of yards and collapses in huge spots.
If you want my prediction Capers retires or if fired by Tuesday of the last game and most of the defense staff will go elsewhere.
Grave Digger posted:It's truly a miracle they've won any games at all...
Apparently you missed the fact they haven't won any games since they had a couple of injuries and Perry and Clinton-Dix weren't making every big play they had the opportunity to.
It doesn't help when the offense is busy going 3 & out early when their depth is depleted also.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Who is making the chicken salad?
This guy
or this guy?
No. No. Yes.
Yep. Only a couple injuries.
Herschel posted:Apparently you missed the fact they haven't won any games since they had a couple of injuries and Perry and Clinton-Dix weren't making every big play they had the opportunity to.
It doesn't help when the offense is busy going 3 & out early when their depth is depleted also.
The offense is 11th in the league in scoring. I'm worried less about them than I am about the D that gives up 27+ ppg.
The offense needs work, just not nearly as much as the defense.
Defense needs less Dom. Addition by subtraction.
Much less Dom....like zero . Less than zero.
Look what John Fox is doing IN Chicago with nothing for players. At least his guys are competing.
Packers just look like they're out on the field collecting a paycheck.
