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@ammo posted:

Have to win at least one game. Getting swept would be bad.    Sweeping the Cards would be GREAT!!!!

Loser mentality.

Sweep those mothers!!!!!😀

But wait.

What happened to the Indians?

Real pitching duel in St. Louis.   Brewers no hit thru 6.2  but McCutchen gets a  single in the 7th but Renfroe strikes out to end the inning. Brewers also have a walk. Cards have 2 hits but no walks.   

Hader has sucked since going to the Padres, but the fact we got a struggling reliever who won't be here next year and two mid-level prospects for him still baffles me. Cheap ownership. If they use the money they saved on Hader to extend Burnes and Woodruff this will look a lot better, but I'm not holding my breath.

This fossilized version of Pujols has a substantially higher OPS than Yelich, Wong, Adames, Urias, or McCutcheon this year.

Goldschmidt and Arenado are all-star level players.

The Brewers don't have any position players that would be top 50 in the league right now.

If you put this starting pitching staff with the 2011 Brewers position players, they'd win 110 games.

If you put them with the 1982 Brewers position players, they'd win 120.

As someone else has said on here, after decades of not having enough pitching to win it when the Brewers had great offenses propel them to the playoffs, we now have the best pitching staff in Brewer history feel like they have to win every game 2-1 or 3-2 against good teams.

Staying status quo on offense at the trade deadline and trading a struggling superstar reliever for a cheaper struggling reliever, a guy you released a few days later, and two guys that are barely top 10 prospects in the Brewer system when you know you needed offense still pisses me off.

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I live in St. Louis and was at the game. It was fun until the 8th inning.  Ball was carrying today. No runs by either team were scored besides home runs. Assuming there’s some way to pitch against home runs without walking everyone, and assuming the talent on the team - and there’s a lot of it - comes together at the right time for a run (on sentence) - the crew can play with anyone. They’ve got all the pieces- starting pitching, bull pen, fielding, power hitting, speed on the bases. It just needs to all come together.

@Brewcrew posted:

I live in St. Louis and was at the game. It was fun until the 8th inning.  Ball was carrying today. No runs by either team were scored besides home runs. Assuming there’s some way to pitch against home runs without walking everyone, and assuming the talent on the team - and there’s a lot of it - comes together at the right time for a run (on sentence) - the crew can play with anyone. They’ve got all the pieces- starting pitching, bull pen, fielding, power hitting, speed on the bases. It just needs to all come together.

They need one of their hitters to get hot during the last few weeks of the season.

They got to the NLCS in 2018 because Yelich carried them there in the regular season and had an OBP of almost 600 in the NLDS. The Rockies feared him so much they just walked him all the time. They have a few guys that hav e performed at that level in the past - Yelich, McCutcheon, and (for a few months last year) Adames.

The Cards have two of those guys - Goldschmidt and Arenado. Goldschmidt has a 615 SLG percentage and Arenado is at 564. The Brewers don't have a guy over 495.

If the Brewers get to the playoffs, Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta keep you in every game. Rogers is trending towards going on the DL, but Bush has been good. D. Williams, Boxberger, and Bush are still a good trio. But they just don't have that guy in the lineup that scares you and forces you to plan around him. It was supposed to be Yelich, but that ship sailed when he fouled that ball off his kneecap three years ago. 

@MichiganPacker I agree with everything you said except for one. I’m not ready to give up on Yelich. Granted he’s more expensive than he’s produced the past 2 years. But he’s shown more this year, and I don’t believe the same guy that represented the USA in the World Baseball Classic when it won for the first time, before coming to Milwaukee and winning the MVP and could’ve had another the next year just all of a sudden loses it. He’s still very talented. He just needs to find it again.

Brewcrew - I sure hope you are right. The 2018-19 Yelich was probably the most exciting player to watch in Brewer history - and I'm old enough to have been a huge fan of the Molitor-Yount-Cooper teams.

But we aren't talking a small sample size at this point after the knee fracture and he'll be 31 years old later this year.

In 2018-2019, he had 1233 plate appearances. 671 total bases.

63 doubles, 20 triples, and 80 home runs. SLG% of 631

In 2020-22, he now has 1197 plate appearances.

44 doubles, 7 triples, 29 home runs. 387 total bases. SLG% of 385

He went from a SLG of 631 (Braun was 597 when he won the MVP) to basically Jim Gantner.

The worst part is that they are paying him 26 million this year and owe him 150 million over the next 6 years. That contract might be the worst in baseball and it factored into the decision to trade Hader and may factor into whether to pay Burnes and Woodruff.

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