Cut Driver, keep Boykins and Gurley

2 words:

Pat Lee

Another player who looked like a different guy in game 4 of the pre-season. Knew he had to play his ass off or get cut. And he did. Just enough to tease GB then back to the same Lee in the regular season.

We're seeing precisely that tonight with these WR's. TT will know what to do.

Maybe Jones is traded to Miami. He is no better than #4 on this team. Maybe 5. Driver on hands team. Keep Boykins and either Gurley or Borel. Boykins looks like one of those guys who just is a football player.

And last year Chastain West was the guy we didn't want to lose. This year, he didn't make the final cut for the offensively challenged Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm not so sure any of these guys is better than West is/was.

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Originally posted by Johnny Boy:
Maybe Jones is traded to Miami.

The guy nobody signed as a FA.

Trade for an 8th round pick?

One season can certainly change a team(s)' needs. Prior to the 2011 season, who would've guessed the Pack would spend an entire (almost) draft on defense (2012).

The Packers personnel staff isn't trading Jones, imo. Jones is one heck of an insurance policy. Jennings has how many concussions again? Driver is also older and more brittle. Take away those two and suddenly Jones becomes a key cog in the offense...and he can handle the job.

2012 NFL football favors a passing attack and the Packers go deeper there than any other team in football. they like to go after the opposing defense's weakest cb. Jones can do that a heck of a lot better than Gurley or Boykin. For as nice as Boykin has looked none of it has come against top tier NFL talent. He can't do the things Jones can with regards to speed and power.

The WR talent is the Packers greatest advantage and there's little sense in making the deepest position on the roster weaker. They've invested years in developing James Jones and have him at a very reasonable price. There's no financial pressure to get rid of him.

The Packers personnel staff has also shown a propensity for finding high end WR's in the draft. I think they value that position so highly that the next WR that's low on the depth chart is going to be a 2nd/3rd pick with top end potential that will develop into a top end talent in three years. They're not keeping a guy around that at best will be your 4th WR. That spot is going to be for the next Jordy/Greg/Jones/Cobb. Boykin isn't high end, he's a worst case scenario emergency call up.

There was a guy like Boykin last year and there'll be a guy like him next year. He's a practice squad guy and if you don't get him back you find another one next year.

DD would have absolutely schooled the competition that boykins and gurley had tonight.

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
DD would have absolutely schooled the competition that boykins and gurley had tonight.

That's an interesting point. It's tough to judge wide receivers against second-rate cornerbacks.

They're not cutting Driver. All accounts are that he had a hell of a training camp this year. That won't go unnoticed.

I'm not sure any of these guys are an upgrade from who we currently have. And honestly I think Cobb will be a star someday just like Jennings. Future is bright regardless.

of the three, I thought Boykins showed the most talent. But we have seen that in camp before. I

am just ready for a real game. Bring on the 49ers- The offense if not a question mark. They might spudder every now and them but for the most part they are going to be a machine. And it will be fun to watch the No Huddle in action. I am pumped.

Boykin will make it to the PS. Trade Gurley in the morning. Keep Borel.

Nice dilemma anyway.

My take is Gurley has the size teams salivate about, but Borel is the better overall receiver, and also looks good as a returner.

No one is going to sign Boykin to their 53 (crossing fingers).

@Derps.

No.

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Originally posted by heyward:

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
DD would have absolutely schooled the competition that boykins and gurley had tonight.

That's an interesting point. It's tough to judge wide receivers against second-rate cornerbacks.

So how did Driver do against the Vikings last year?

I don't think DD is a lock and I don't know how I feel about that. This is going to be a real tough call for the staff, and always causes conflicts for fans. Do you go with old reliable, or do you go with more inconsistent younger talent who may have more upside?

I'm a JJ fan but I would dump him for a pick for the Fins. The question is what would be the offer. Would they offer a 5?

a 2 is the lowest offer I would trade him for, so I assume we'll just keep him.

First of all, I think a lot of people forget about what Driver brings to this team off the field. If they were going to cut him, they would have done it already. They would not make a huge splash like that right before the season. I think some players would have some ill feeling toward management. That is not good a week before the season. Also, where were these receivers the last three games?

Why trade JJ for a draft pick now? What will that bring the Packers this year? The Packers plan for the future enough with the draft. Right now, they are planning for the present. That means winning a Super Bowl this year.

what Troy said and simply, no.

Driver will remain as long as he chooses to put on the pads,meanwhile some young,talented wide reciever(s) gets cut and goes to some other team and stars,its hard to star on the Packers as they have so many other stars.if they keep Driver he better get lots of playing time for what it is costing them in the long run,the future talent is everything for success.

Miami has an extra 2 and 3 next year from the trades they made with Chicago and ???. Heard that on NFL Network. Could we trade Jones and ___ for the 2nd?

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Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
a 2 is the lowest offer I would trade him for, so I assume we'll just keep him.

I wouldn't throw anything else in, my offer stands that a 2nd round pick is the lowest I would even consider making a trade. I don't think any team would do that, so I assume JJ stays a Packer.

If a team is willing to overpay......

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Originally posted by Tavis Smiley:
...Do you go with old reliable, or do you go with more inconsistent younger talent who may have more upside?

Which gives our team the best chance to win?

I guess it depends on how often the #5 WR or #8/#9 option on offense plays a role in the "best chances" to win.

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Originally posted by Troy:
First of all, I think a lot of people forget about what Driver brings to this team off the field. If they were going to cut him, they would have done it already. They would not make a huge splash like that right before the season. I think some players would have some ill feeling toward management. That is not good a week before the season. Also, where were these receivers the last three games?

Why trade JJ for a draft pick now? What will that bring the Packers this year? The Packers plan for the future enough with the draft. Right now, they are planning for the present. That means winning a Super Bowl this year.

While I agree that DD is a special player in GB history and brings an enormous amount of intangibles to the table, there's no doubt TT would cut him if he didn't earn his spot.

I also believe TT would trade JJ for a pick if the right opportunity came along. The man stockpiles draft picks and always has his eye towards the future.

When roster moves are completed, it wouldn't surprise me if either JJ or DD isn't in Green Bay.... or not.

I would be surprised if DD and JJ don't make it. None of the WR's really leapfrogged them IMO. Boykin had a good camp so maybe he gets the #6 WR spot(if they go that route) if not, it's the same 5 as last year in my opinion

Could be the deepest WR corps in NFL history for any team in NFL history in all of history, which is historic!

Unless someone is willing to overpay drastically JJ stays and DD is on the team. If they go six at WR my guess would be Boykin.

I hope both JJ and DD remain Packers. JJ is a threat down field and I think DD still has some game in him.

Driver isn't the guy he once was but he's still a better option at this point than Gurley and Borel because he's a known guy and usually doesn't make mistakes.

As for the whole James Jones debate, he is a good insurance policy but if dealing him meant we could get a decent OL backup or another cover CB guy I'd do it. I said it on another thread but for Miami to give up on Vontae Davis so quickly that would have been a great fit for both teams. Miami doesn't have any decent WRs and Phibin knows Jones. Davis is a legit starting CB and would have really shored up the team.