Definition of AP NFL MVP?

PackLandVAMember

Can someone explain where the definition of MVP being "most valuable to the team" came from??

I was always under the impression the MVP was the most valuable to the [b]league[b]. I know "valuable" is a very subjective term, but league is not. The award is for the league's most valuable/outstanding/excellent player, right?

The reason I bring this up is because every year there seems to be debate about how a team would or wouldn't do with/without a certain player. Peyton Manning may be one of the most valuable players in the NFL, but he's not this year. Why? Because he didn't play.

The Most Valuable Player is about the most valuable player to the league (i.e. - who performed the best). It's not some imaginary process of trying to figure out what a team would be without someone.

Am I wrong?

1/2/121:17 PM

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TimpranilloMember

You are wrong. And, you're over complicating things.

The definition of NFL MVP can be summed up in 2 words.

Drew
Freaking
Brees

1/2/121:20 PM

PackLandVAMember

This isn't even just about this year. It's about any year. There's always talk about "who's most valuable to their team".

Wouldn't that be a team MVP, not the league MVP?

1/2/121:23 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

quote:
Originally posted by PackLandVA:

The Most Valuable Player is about the most valuable player to the league

So then it's Tebow!

Bless you!

1/2/121:25 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

C'mon guys. How many "MVP" threads do we need?

1/2/121:25 PM

PackLandVAMember

How many are there. I count two, and they're both about Rodgers and Brees.

I'm just curious about the MVP in general. When did it become about a player's impact on a team. I always thought it was best/most excellent player in the league. And yet it's seems to have morphed away from that. Every year people bring up this notion of a teams prominence (or lack thereof) if the MVP candidate didn't play i.e - Manning.

Feel free to lock/delete, but I think it's a legitimate question/discussion.

1/2/121:33 PM

Dr._BobMember

And which one is the MVP of Threads? Do we favor productivity or quality?

1/2/121:34 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

I remember when Mike Martz called Peter King and lobbied to get him to change his vote from Favre to Kurt Warner.

I remember when Warner won it over Marshall Faulk. Complete joke there.

The MVP should be the best player in the league, period... end of sentence.

The best player in the league in 2011 is Aaron Rodgers & it isn't even close.

If Brees wins, then so be it but he shouldn't

1/2/121:48 PM

FedyaMember

I vote for Carnell Lake.

1/2/121:50 PM

StarrToDowlerMember

More TD's in fewer games.
Fewer picks.
A better record.
Won in head-to-head competition.
Aaron.

1/2/122:02 PM

CUPackFanMember

They should change it to MOP, or Most Outstanding Player. Value is something that every sector if the world struggles with. Who's the most valuable player? How valuable are my investments? How valuable is each employee in my company? Screw value and just focus on who is the most outstanding player each year. Does Bree's deserve the MVP more than Rodgers because Flynn is better than Daniels?

What I'm more confused about, is how one QB can win the MVP while another QB wins Offensive Player of the Year. If you are the MVP and play on offense, how are you not the Offensive Player of the Year too?

1/2/122:08 PM

bubbleboy789Member

I still don't see how there's any question who the MVP is. People just forgot that two game stretch where the Saints lost to the Rams and Bucs and Brees was absolutely terrible. Rodgers never had a stretch like that.

So a guy who throws the ball 45-50 times a game broke the passing record. Stafford and Brady were right there too. Rodgers has a yards/attempt average of 9.2 and still completes 68% of his passes. That has never been done before. Oh, and he threw 6 interceptions, 45 TD's, and broke the passer rating record. And his team was 15-1.

Aaron Rodgers is the unquestioned MVP of the NFL.

1/2/122:15 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

Disagree.

1/2/122:16 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
You are wrong. And, you're over complicating things.

The definition of NFL MVP can be summed up in 2 words.

Drew
Freaking
Brees

That's 3 words. I thought his middle name was MVP.

1/2/122:23 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
Originally posted by Boris:
The best player in the league in 2011 is Aaron Rodgers & it isn't even close.

Bite your tongue, heathen.

1/2/122:26 PM

HerschelMember

quote:
Originally posted by StarrToDowler:
More TD's.
Fewer picks.
A better record.
Won in head-to-head competition.
Aaron.

What league records did Rodgers break this year?

Shiny votes.

1/2/123:31 PM

SanDiegoPackFanMember

quote:
Originally posted by Fedya:
I vote for Carnell Lake.

Peter Freakin' King

what a doofus

1/2/124:06 PM

Armored N.O. SaintMember

I predict we will have co-MVPs. Because Brees broke the record and has the highest completion percentage and Rodgers has the best TD-INT ratio and the best QB rating in NFL history, you're going to have a lot of politicking behind the scenes among AP voters and a consensus will be reached. Since the last co-MVPs were Manning and McNair, Brees and Rodgers winning the honor would not be outside the realm of possibility.

1/2/125:26 PM

justanotherpackerfanMember

How does a vote like that end up a tie? Especially that often. (Weren't Favre and Sanders Co-MVP's one time also)

How many people vote?

Is there politics involved?

Can we recall Brees if he wins?

1/2/125:28 PM

PackLandVAMember

50 persons vote. Some from the print media and others from TV/radio media. Some are former players, like Boomer Esiason, who's now an analyst.

I don't know that they can "conspire" to make it a tie. There's only a vote for the MVP, no ranking (1,2,3, etc.). So the first to 26 votes wins.

1/2/125:32 PM

PackyMember

MVP in NFL is like MLB, NBA. It's not the best player if your team doesn't get in the playoffs. It's a player/team award now. Give Brees the MVP. I'm sure Rodgers would be more happy with another Super Bowl win. Maybe in years past the MVP in pro sports went to the best player even though he may have not been on a winning team. But, I have no idea. Who's the historian here?

1/2/125:39 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

Brady is the MVP

1/2/125:59 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

He could make a case.

1/2/128:16 PM

Orlando WolfMember

Rodgers MVP, Brees Offensive Player of the Year?

1/2/128:20 PM

Armored N.O. SaintMember

quote:
Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Rodgers MVP, Brees Offensive Player of the Year?

I could live with that.

1/2/128:28 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

Brady MVP Brees Offensive player of the year. That seems like a good compromise. Either that or Brady and Brees co-MVPs.

1/2/128:30 PM

Orlando WolfMember

Saine ROY?

1/2/128:41 PM

HerschelMember

Brady? She was Roy Wiliams before Roy Williams was.

1/2/128:43 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

HUH?

1/2/128:44 PM

PakrzFREEZE!

When do they announce this well-talked about award anyhow?

1/2/1210:53 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

It seems I remember Brady receiving the award on Championship Sunday.

I remember laughing because he just got bounced from the playoffs the previous week by the Jets.

Unanimous vote for Brady last year.

1/3/126:02 AM

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