Did anybody else think Aikman hates the Packers

No.

I genuinely did not feel that way. In fact, the boys in the booth hardly impacted me one way or another throughout that glorious victory.

Buck gets on my nerves because I don't think he deserves the spot he's in and completely walked into that role on coat tails.

Aikman has a deep respect for AR. And he kinda knows something about QB's.

No

I don't know if it was Aikman, but the other doofus with him said a couple times about the last pass that Collins broke up: "there was contact, but a good non-call." I'm still scratching my head over the "contact." No one touched Williams until Tramon's hand knocked the ball out. You could tell Tramon was very careful coming around Williams so as not to touch him -- what an athletic move that was to go all the way around the guy and not touch him, then leap up and knock the ball out of his hands. Tramon Terrific!!!

Did those two clowns really do the color for the game???

I never noticed.

On another play holding was called on Pittsburgh and the ref said #73. #71 was blocking Clay and Aikmen went on to "point out how Clay was being held and the ref got the number wrong. But as I was watching the play live #73 absolutely tackled Jenkins and that was where the holding was. Troy never did correct it.

I really missed Larry and Wayne.

That said, I think Acheman has learned that you establish a narrative and ride it through the game, no matter what is actually happening. I blame Madden, who became bigger than the game. Give me Ray Scott any day.

Nope... listen to the replay of the Raji interception... I think that is him laughing in the background after the TD and dance.

Marioochi (who cares how u spell it), is a ding-dong brint apologist and in my opinion holds a grudge.

Even Dion was giving us some love.

No--To me, it felt as if he favored the Packers, really.

But it seems to me that the whole rhythm and tempo of NFL broadcasting has changed over the years to the degree that I often watch with the sound off. Sitting in a sports bar, I can't hear anyway, so it is not really that different.

To me, no one will be better at it than Ray Scott, with his "Less is More" approach.

These days, it seems that the Money People have forced producers to gather the most vacuous teams possible to call the games. As long as they can jabber and blabber for Three Solid Hours Without Breathing, perhaps they figure people will constantly watch, which might drive ad revenue.

It's a Huge Drag for anyone who knows anything about football, to listen to some Babbling Has-Been like Jon Gruden, fawn and chatter like a pubescent schoolgirl over every player he sees, have the team run a play, and then have him Continue his noxious gibberish while he tries to tell us what we're watching, often making glaring mistakes.

I figure if Ray Scott called The Sneak, the experience from home would have included Extremely Loud Crowd Noise, punctuated by his dramatic, scouring call: "Starr...(pause as the play unfolds)...Touchdown." and that would have been it.

I figure by next year, I'll set up so I can listen to whatever radio stations You Guys recommend, and run it through my computer. All we can get here in NC is the national crap, and I Kain't Tayke it No Mo!

I, too, loved Ray Scott.

His sparse comments respected your intelligence. Trusted you to use your eyes and ears at the same time.

Great way to watch football.

I've been really annoyed by Aikman all year. He and Buck were pretty hard to listen to for what seemed like an inordinate proportion of our games this year.

I think his bias comes across quite clearly. He loves TOG, though.

There was also the "missed" call on the last play of the game. Aikman/Buck were saying how you gotta call that penalty with contact up top. Then they replayed and there was absolutely no contact. They soon corrected themselves. Didn't stop Wallace from complaining about it after the game though.

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Originally posted by YATittle:
I, too, loved Ray Scott.

His sparse comments respected your intelligence. Trusted you to use your eyes and ears at the same time.

Great way to watch football.

Thank you, Sir. You hit the nail on the head.

Aikman has been lobbying for MM for coach of the year for the better half of the season....he's ok with me.

I just used "for" three times in one sentence.....top that!

We are 6-0 our last 6 games with Buck and Aikman.

I'm petitioning the league that those 2 announce every Packer game from here on out.

No. I think it may be the opposite. I believe Troy likes the Packers and what they represent and how they play.

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Originally posted by Fandame:
I don't know if it was Aikman, but the other doofus with him said a couple times about the last pass that Collins broke up: "there was contact, but a good non-call." I'm still scratching my head over the "contact." No one touched Williams until Tramon's hand knocked the ball out. You could tell Tramon was very careful coming around Williams so as not to touch him -- what an athletic move that was to go all the way around the guy and not touch him, then leap up and knock the ball out of his hands. Tramon Terrific!!!

There was some contact. If you watch it again, watch Tramons right leg and Wallaces' left. When they're in the air, Tramons right leg pushed his left leg forward and it may have affected the catch, but I still think it was not enough to warrant a flag.

Whatever contact there was on the play was incidental and any claim of a possible PI call is ridiculous.

agreed.

Aikman is one of my favorite announcers. Even as an ex-Cowboy I feel he has given the Pack a lot of love this season.
As for the SB....I was so hyped I barely remember the announcers.

I personally think that Buck and Aikman are okay, but just okay. I just think some of the voices of the past (i.e Curt Gowdy, Pat Summerall pre-1993) were better. I don't think Aikman hates the Packers, heck he probably gets a smile on his face thinking about all the times he beat them in the '90s.

this is as good a place to throw this out as any I guess.

When Roger Staubach brought the Lombardi to the stage, he kept a nice smile on his face through all the Packers but once he got to the stage the look on his face as he handed it off looked to me like "get me the hell out of here." Coulda just been me, but I think the ol' Cowboy wasn't enjoying all that Packer bliss. no big deal either way.

I also disagree and think Aikman kind of likes the Packers. As to the Tramon-Wallace play, Wallace's desperate body moves -- especially after his one foot hits the ground -- do make it look rather as if he were being pushed. This is especially true of the first camera angle we saw, which I think is more or less in line with Aikman and Buck's perspectives.

I also thought Staubach looked as if he felt kind of embarrassed to being the trophy-porter. Can't say as I blame him; had he walked a few feet with the trophy to give it to someone else to make the presentation that would have been enough to emphasize the Cowboy connection; the processional through the players was a little awkward to put someone through.

I have always thought Aikman was a class act and still do. Feel the same way about Terry Bradshaw -- I can't blame Terry at all for being a Steeler forever in his heart -- but he sure didn't show it in the trophy-presentation business.

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Originally posted by bdplant:
Aikman has been lobbying for MM for coach of the year for the better half of the season....he's ok with me.

I just used "for" three times in one sentence.....top that!

For what would be the reason for which I would try to use for in a sentence for more than three times in a discussion for which the main question, for the people who don't know, is whether Aikman was for or against the Packers?


What do I win?

I don't think Aikman hates the Packers. I just think he is a moron. There were several instances where Aikman made his astute QB insights and very clearly the replays did not back up what he seemed to think was going on.

He is a pleasant guy and his rings earn him some leeway. His radio show in Sporting News Radio is not very deep. Mostly he just seems to laugh about things people say around him. I don't think he is against any team, but I just think he isn't very good. How many guys can be hired for TV who had to leave the league for too many hits to the head... Young, Hodge (sp?), Aikman... Could we get a few more fully functioning brains?

I think there should be a standing rule that no commentator should be allowed to cover a team they played for. Westwood One had Mark Malone covering the sidelines in the Super Bowl. I straight up do not care what Carter thinks of the Vikings, what Jaws thinks of the Eagles, what Bradshaw thinks of the Steelers, what Ditka thinks of the Bears, etc.

what Ditka thought of the Packers this year, however, was spot on!

Aikman thought MM should be coach of the year and Rodgers was the best player. Not sure if that's hate.

If this game were against the Jets, Aikman & Buck would have been all over it. Nothing the Pack did would have mattered. But as it was, they were ok. I was looking for the bias but couldn't really detect an obvious one.

For all those applauding Ray Scott - +1

In reply to OP, I've never had that impression. I think it's rather stupid, to be honest.

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Originally posted by Tdog:
what Ditka thought of the Packers this year, however, was spot on!

Got that right! He was giving them a lot of love on Mike & Mike consistently during the playoffs. I think Ditka's an old-school guy: beat 'em up, then help 'em up, and if they're better than you, don't be afraid to say it.

Yes, My wife has been saying this for years, she wasn't happy when she heard Aikman was calling the game. Aikman is always claiming the Packer DB's are interfering. Just watch the 4th and 5, he was calling for pass interference until the replay made him choke.

You know what makes me sad?

PEOPLE WHO GET SAD OVER POINTLESS SCHYT!!!!!!!

The only thing that makes me dislike him is he wined that he would't come to Green Bay if they had the number 1 pick in the 1989 draft. There are some things he says that are off base but that is the case with most of these so called announcers.

I think Aikman and Buck are pretty much the worst prime time team ever.
They continue with their script even though it does not match what is going on the field. Aikman is quick to rip on the GB DB's every time there is a close incomplete pass and knee jerks a interference call every time.

To me Aikman is the most fortunate Super Bowl winning QB in history.I realize it is a huge accomplishment to win a SB. Aikman had most likely the best Olines and running games in NFL history. Also they were pretty much dirty players on and off the field the Oline that is who I am refering to.

There has not been a run game that dominant since then and I suppose I have some envy mixed in into my perspective. Irvin was pretty much a big play guy that pushed of DB's because of his size and strength and benefited greatly from the power of the run game. That Oline is what made that dynasty along with a damn tough defense.Along with the fact they pretty much got away with murder and always had the scheduling advantage as they were the Money Team back then.

I always respected the Cowboys throughout the years with the class acts like Staubach,White,Dorsett etc and of course Tom Landry. Then came the thugs

The only thing that has erased the memory of that Dallas Team and their dominance of GB for years was Reggie White and the 96 Super Bowl team that should have won in 97 also except that the Walrus was greedy.

It is nice to have a coach that wants to coach the Packers till he retires and will live in Titletown happily ever after. I sometimes wonder what kind of run GB would have had if Holmy would have been content in GB. I think that he would have had the reins in a year or two as Wolf was done a couple years after anyway. I think he would have reined in bert and made better personel decisions than Sherman and GB would have been a multi Super Bowl winner.

But hell that is water under the bridge and hopefully Fox will get a new prime time broadcasting duo in the near future so Buck and Acheman go under the bridge also.Go Pack Go get some more Lombardi's so the Champoinship case needs to be rebuilt to accomodate them. Just dont hire Gary Knawfle as a designer.contractor for it.

The Chiefs had a fantastic running game with Priest Holmes for a 2-3 year window. Hate the Cowboys but have to give Aikman credit for his accuracy.

I know one guy who definitely wanted Rodgers to win was Goodell. The last thing he wanted was Ben to win the MVP and be sent off to Disney World.

Why does anybody care what they think?

Why?

Why?


Why?

Throughout the 2nd half of the season Aikman said a lot of good things about the Packers. MM he liked as coach of the year, raved about Rodgers and Woodson every game, and always gave the Packers credit for overcoming the injuries and being what he considered the most dangerous team in the NFC.

You people have low self-esteem issues.