"Does a fat baby fart?"

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Originally posted by slowmo: Those criticizing, Greene said, "don't understand football.

Really? The last thing I need is the linebacker coach of my favorite team also telling me that.

Other coaches comments about working for Capers:

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McCarthy ‘very confident’ in Capers’ return
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“It’s a tough spot and it’s on all of us. We’re all in this together,” said defensive line coach Mike Trgovac, a former defensive coordinator himself with the Carolina Panthers. “All of us have a lot of great respect for Dom and you feel bad for him because I’ve been in that situation before.

“I challenge anybody to go look at our four years here and look at it as a collective,” cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt said. “When you look at it that way, we’re top 5 in almost every category. Because I’ve done it. I’ve looked at every season and put them all to a four-year total, we’re in the top 5, top 7 in every category.

“We all did not perform the way we wanted to perform on Saturday. Working for Dom Capers has been one of the best things that’s ever happened to me, because he’s one of the most detailed individuals that you can be around. ... I have the utmost respect for him and I will work my butt off for him to make sure my players play in the vision he wants his defense to look like.”
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OK- so he's going to stay. Everyone defending him, even his boss.

Starting LBs next year: Matthews, Hawk, Bishop, Perry. Good enough?

Starting DL next year: Raji, Pickett, Wilson with Worthy, Daniels, and Neal in rotation. Good enough?

Starting Secondary: Williams/Shields outside, McMillan/Burnett inside, Hayward in the nickel with House in the dime- good enough?

One thing to note- 4 of the guys above were not playing in the 49er game. I know "next man up" is something we have gotten accustomed to here, but honestly- can we get a season where our best get to actually play in JAN?

I think you'll see 1 new guy starting at ILB and another starting on the DL. Mostly likely rooks, possibly Manning.

Were we expecting his subordinates to come out and tell the public he dropped the ball?

I'm going to give this a try at work tomorrow.

Babies should giggle.

Babies also sh@t the bed, which is exactly what the GB defense did vs SF

TT should give him the dreaded "vote of confidence", if only to

Did anyone understand his defense of Walden on that long TD run by CK? Huh? So, were we just planning to concede the TD if CK kept the ball? Was Tramon supposed to stop him? Madness....

As one should expect after a thrashing that the D took...its time to CYA!!!!

First, Yes fat baby's fart. Of course KG is going to defend his boss. His ass is also on the line.

Capers defensive game plan was as bad as the squirrel resting on top of his head.
Maybe Greene should take some of the blame too, our LB's didn't do baby crap that whole game.
Leroy Butler was even incredulous to what Capers rolled out there, (watch the latest 5 questions with Leroy Butler on JS website), no corrections or changes at halftime either. Yep, two years in a row, blown out in the playoffs, no problems there.

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Capers defensive game plan was as bad as the squirrel resting on top of his head.

So we can blame Squirrel Pee for the loss?

I'm down with that.

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Originally posted by saw:
Capers defensive game plan was as bad as the squirrel resting on top of his head.
Maybe Greene should take some of the blame too, our LB's didn't do baby crap that whole game.
Leroy Butler was even incredulous to what Capers rolled out there, (watch the latest 5 questions with Leroy Butler on JS website), no corrections or changes at halftime either. Yep, two years in a row, blown out in the playoffs, no problems there.

What corrections or changes do you feel should have been made?

The one thing that really irks me is not trying anything to stop CK's running.

If it was me, I would have had a player shadowing their QB the entire 2nd half. He may still have beaten us with his arm but at least I would've tried something!

GB didn't have the horses to fight this fight. Not Dom's fault, TT's fault, or MM's fault. They FOUGHT ALL YEAR! **** happens.

NO excuses. 2013 is another opportunity for the Lombardi.

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Originally posted by Boris:
The one thing that really irks me is not trying anything to stop CK's running.

If it was me, I would have had 2-3 players shadowing their QB the entire 2nd half. He may still have beaten us with his arm but at least I would've tried something!

FTFY.

When he started getting cocked up especially important to deflate him. Best way I know to do that is hit him into next year. I add that 2 guys would also cover Crabtree leaving the rest to try to beat us.


We may get called for 12 or more men of the field a couple times.

....I always thought that the recognized "best practice" to defend any type of option was to play "assignment football" Walden / Matthews has the QB no matter what. Would you rather have Frank Gore up the middle for 6 yards or Kaepernick around the edge for 70 yards untouched? As I have said in other posts, coaches rely heavily on peers to pick their brains when facing unfamiliar tactics. I hope that Capers researched ways to defend the option (from college to limited history in NFL) & installed a plan, but the players did not execute it. The difficulty in defending the option is that somehow the defense has to get one more defender involved in the play than they do in a typical offense where the QB is not a runner.

How many options does CK run after getting blown up a couple times? Sadly I don't see Walden lighting him up even if assigned.

If the players had done their job then Kaep wouldn't have gone anywhere.

I saw MM's presser after the game and someone asked him about spying the QB. He replied that in 2nd half "believe it or not" we were spying him. On the radio I heard an MD Jennings interview. They practiced and planned a bit on the option but it wasn't a big part of their preparations. Ya almost got to give Harbaugh some credit for waiting until the playoffs to fully unveil this option QB business. yes, they'd done it before but not to the extent they did last Saturday.

the GBP didn't honor gap control in the last game of the season - AP ran all over.
the GBP did honor gap control in their 1st playoff game - AP held in check.
then the GBP again didn't honor gap control v the 9ers - CK runs all over.
that's the frustrating part to me - I thought they fixed it. you can coach and scheme all you want but if the players don't execute it on the field...

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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
NO excuses. 2013 is another opportunity for the Lombardi.

Yes but this next year crap gets old and as soon as you know it Rodgers is retiring. Dan Marino thought he was going to be looking back at a lot of Super Bowl apperances after his 2nd year, I hate to think that Rodgers will be known as one and done!!

I'm of the opinion we should let Rodgers career play itself out before worrying it might not meet our expectations.

Preemptive panty bunching is a real phenomenon.

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
If the players had done their job then Kaep wouldn't have gone anywhere.

...I guess what we don't know is: 1) What exactly were they instructed to do 2) Were they physically capable of doing what they were instructed 3) Were they cognitively capable of doing what they were instructed 4) Was the implementation (teaching) of the scheme thourough and repeated enough to be internalized by the players. This is fundamental to good coaching

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
If the players had done their job then Kaep wouldn't have gone anywhere.

I agree with that, at least at times.

You had Hayward come untouched in for what should have been a sack or a hurry and instead completely whiffed and let Colin K run wild. You had a play right after that one where the Pack rushed a number of guys, Matthews gets put on the ground by LeMichael James and Colin K runs through the hole created.

Then in the 2nd half, I noticed Walden sort of hanging back in the middle looking like a spy at times on a couple of plays. He'd get distracted, turn his head, and CK would run right past him. Horrendous job.

I think by the middle of the 2nd half, the Pack's defense was so gassed from dealing with that great offensive line and chasing Kaepernick all over that they had nothing left. There wasn't really any special formation that was going to stop San Fran at that point. That was a rested San Fran team at home that was facing a battered GB squad that had fought as hard as they could until the middle of the 3rd quarter when they pretty much were on empty.

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Originally posted by FLPACKER:
...I guess what we don't know is: 1) What exactly were they instructed to do 2) Were they physically capable of doing what they were instructed 3) Were they cognitively capable of doing what they were instructed 4) Was the implementation (teaching) of the scheme thourough and repeated enough to be internalized by the players. This is fundamental to good coaching

If Dom Capers is making an apple pie that calls for 11 apples (it's a big pie) and 4 of the apples you give him are rotten, but he can't get any more good apples in time, what is he supposed to do? He has 3 options: make the pie with 7 apples, don't make a pie at all, or make the pie with the bad apples and hope it turns out okay. 4 bad apples is too many to cover up.

I used a food analogy because it's lunch time and I'm really hungry.

Not according to The Osmonds.

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Originally posted by fightphoe93:
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You had Hayward come untouched in for what should have been a sack or a hurry and instead completely whiffed and let Colin K run wild.

To be fair, if it is the play I am thinking of he did not whiff....he did touch him. One of the D's most aggressive tackle attempts on CK all nite.

ESPN had a segment showing numerous attempts of the spy technique....ran right be 'em or faked him out.

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:

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Originally posted by FLPACKER:
...I guess what we don't know is: 1) What exactly were they instructed to do 2) Were they physically capable of doing what they were instructed 3) Were they cognitively capable of doing what they were instructed 4) Was the implementation (teaching) of the scheme thourough and repeated enough to be internalized by the players. This is fundamental to good coaching

If Dom Capers is making an apple pie that calls for 11 apples (it's a big pie) and 4 of the apples you give him are rotten, but he can't get any more good apples in time, what is he supposed to do? He has 3 options: make the pie with 7 apples, don't make a pie at all, or make the pie with the bad apples and hope it turns out okay. 4 bad apples is too many to cover up.

I used a food analogy because it's lunch time and I'm really hungry.

...but in the last game it looked like all the apples were bad

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Originally posted by FLPACKER:

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:

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Originally posted by FLPACKER:
...I guess what we don't know is: 1) What exactly were they instructed to do 2) Were they physically capable of doing what they were instructed 3) Were they cognitively capable of doing what they were instructed 4) Was the implementation (teaching) of the scheme thourough and repeated enough to be internalized by the players. This is fundamental to good coaching

If Dom Capers is making an apple pie that calls for 11 apples (it's a big pie) and 4 of the apples you give him are rotten, but he can't get any more good apples in time, what is he supposed to do? He has 3 options: make the pie with 7 apples, don't make a pie at all, or make the pie with the bad apples and hope it turns out okay. 4 bad apples is too many to cover up.

I used a food analogy because it's lunch time and I'm really hungry.

...but in the last game it looked like all the apples were bad

And the baker.....

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I think by the middle of the 2nd half, the Pack's defense was so gassed from dealing with that great offensive line and chasing Kaepernick all over that they had nothing left. There wasn't really any special formation that was going to stop San Fran at that point. That was a rested San Fran team at home that was facing a battered GB squad that had fought as hard as they could until the middle of the 3rd quarter when they pretty much were on empty.

I think that's a fair assessment. Some of it was a perfect storm of consequences, exacerbated by poor decisions. And maybe it's partially denial on my part, but all things equal - GB as healthy as SF, both teams coming off a bye, Ross doesn't poop his pants - that game could have gone either way. This is despite SF does have more impact players on their roster. Like others have said, winning a SB involves some luck and fortitous circumstances and GB didn't have a whole lot of that this year or in the last game. Some luck you make, others you can't.

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Originally posted by fightphoe93:
I think by the middle of the 2nd half, the Pack's defense was so gassed from dealing with that great offensive line and chasing Kaepernick all over that they had nothing left.

The muffed punt and the INT returned to the 48. As has been noted, that was essentially a 21 point swing.