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I thought we could make this a general prospects/combine thread with D players starting up. Here are the 40 times of the "tweeners."

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West Virginia defensive end Bruce Irvin (pictured) led the way with a scintillating 40 that NFL Network timed at 4.43. That’s a time usually reserved for wide receivers.

Irvin, an undersized defensive end at 245 pounds, immediately caught the eye of all 3-4 teams looking for a pass rusher at outside linebacker.

Also defining themselves as prospects to play outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense are Clemson’s Andre Branch (4.62), South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram (4.66), Virginia’s Cam Johnson (4.75) and Arkansas’ Jake Bequette (4.78). The cutoff time for an outside linebacker is widely considered to be 4.8. Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry, an undersized player thought to project to outside linebacker, ran a 4.85.


Irvin's time is insane, though obviously means nothing if he can't get around a Tackle in the 3-yard dash to the QB.
from PFT:
Poe ran an “unofficial” 4.87 forty-yard dash. That is a preposterous number for a man that big. Poe’s 1.7 ten-yard split is even more telling and more impressive.

crap. testing out too good. now the GBP will hafta trade up to get him if they want him.
He's putting up some great numbers at the combine.

But can he play football?

Poe

Does anyone see anything that screams 1st rounder here? Yes, it's one game film. But that is Arkansas State. Should a guy that's heading toward mid 1st round consideration be moved around the line as much as Poe is in this clip? And shouldn't he have better numbers considering Memphis plays a schedule full of teams like Austin Peay, Tulane, and Middle Tennesee State? Sorry, but I want to see more than 8 total tackles for loss for the year against that schedule.

Like any guy in the past that put up solid numbers at the combine. It's going to come down to where he goes and who coaches him.
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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
He's putting up some great numbers at the combine.

But can he play football?

Poe

Does anyone see anything that screams 1st rounder here? Yes, it's one game film. But that is Arkansas State. Should a guy that's heading toward mid 1st round consideration be moved around the line as much as Poe is in this clip? And shouldn't he have better numbers considering Memphis plays a schedule full of teams like Austin Peay, Tulane, and Middle Tennesee State? Sorry, but I want to see more than 8 total tackles for loss for the year against that schedule.

Like any guy in the past that put up solid numbers at the combine. It's going to come down to where he goes and who coaches him.


Don't get it. Even from the tiny bit I watched, he was single-blocked and didn't get any great push. In fact, on one tackle he didn't even get out of his stance when the ball was snapped -- the runner ran right into him and he stood up and made the tackle. Another time at the goal line he was pushed sideways and fell over someone else. It would be a head-scratcher, but what do any of us know? In TT we trust.
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Scout on Dontari Poe: Watch him play, he didn’t do anything
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 1, 2012, 7:38 AM EDT

The excitement from Dontari Poe’s phenomenal Scouting Combine performance is starting to fade in the eyes of many league observers, who are turning their attention back to Poe’s tape — and not liking what they’re seeing.

Poe, the Memphis defensive tackle who took the Combine by storm by running a 4.87-second 40-yard dash at 346 pounds and bench-pressing 225 pounds 44 times, does not impress many of those who have watched him play.

“He’ll be overdrafted,” one personnel man told the Times of Trenton. “He did all of that at the Combine, so some team will take him way higher than he should go. I mean watch him play, just watch. He didn’t do anything. And he wasn’t playing at a very high level, either. All I know is he had one sack last year and it came against Austin Peay. You probably didn’t even know Austin Peay had a football team.”

When Poe announced in December that he was entering the NFL draft, he said he’d been told he projected as a second-rounder who could move into the first round with a good Combine. Poe didn’t have a good Combine — he had a great Combine — and he started being discussed as a Top 5 pick.

So those who watched him bench press and run 40 yards in a straight line are more impressed than those who watched him play football. That’s not a good sign.
Read that too P Boi. Mike Mamula 2.0. Mamula actually had a solid career, but was probably more of a 2nd-3rd round pick based on his actual play on the field. Great combine boosted him to top 10. Poe sounds very similar. Hopefully he's drafted high though, as it'll push another quality player down to the Packers.

Not to get off topic in this thread, but I've been reading that Andre Branch would be a good fit for the Packers in round 1. Anyone have the story on him and how he'd fit in as a 3-4 OLB in Green Bay.
Biggest flag for me is this going to be a player who plays when he wants to play?

So knowing his draft stock would rise (along with his contract $$$) he works his butt of at the combine, impresses there and hopes no one pays close attention to his game performance.

Highly doubt GB would do that knowing the kind of research the Packers do on their picks.

If Poe was there in there in the mid rounds I think he'd be worth the risk. But Im also hoping some Matt Millen Geenyous takes this kid early in the 1st and agree that a quality player drops to 28.

Here is a decent write up on Branch for GB
Conversely, the Scouting Combine is also a primary job interview for these guys and a guy who puts a lot of effort in to preparing for it can only be a good thing. Wilson, Tannehill and Cousins worked out with Weinke at ING for example. That's just smart bgusiness.
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Originally posted by CUPackFan:
Not to get off topic in this thread, but I've been reading that Andre Branch would be a good fit for the Packers in round 1. Anyone have the story on him and how he'd fit in as a 3-4 OLB in Green Bay.


Once he's engaged, he's done. Not good against the run. Lots of sacks thanks to good coverage in the secondary combined with being blocked by freshman tailbacks.

No.
When TT traded down and still got Jordy Nelson, that move was tremendous.

TT will seek out the best value & adjust his draft position accordingly. He's done it every single year & this year should prove to be no different with 12-13 selections.

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