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Yes, there's a "Bears week thread", and this may be poor thread etiquette, but this needs its own platform.  This is important.  It can't get lost in a prediction thread.   Frankly, I'm seeing pity and sympathy for the bears far more than should ever exist.  And, we need to talk.  This needs to be rectified.   

 

The last several years, I've reminded people of this and now again it is my duty to remind all of you that it is the bears that were, are, and always will be our main rivals.  Period.  Full Stop.  Next Paragraph.  There is no discussion.  There is no debate.  There is no 2nd place.   It most surely is not Detroit.  And regardless what some may think or thought for a brief time, it is not the Vikings.  The Vikings are, at best, your annoying little brother.  They have moments.  But they are harmless, they are meaningless, they are losers.   They are to be mocked, surely, but they are not the rivals of the Green Bay Packers.  

 

The bears are the rivals.  The bears should always, relentlessly, and continuously be hated above all else.  We could win 43 straight games against them, we should still be filled with hate of 1000 white hot suns as we go for win 44 in a row.  They will still be the most hated and storied rivals we have.  We cannot and should not discount this team, this franchise, or their fans.  Favre playing 2 years in Minnesota changes nothing.  It is the bears that all of you should hate above all else.  There should be no pity.  There should be no empathy.  There should be no feelings.  F**k the bears previously.  F**k the bears today.  F**k the bears forever.  

 

61-7.  Perry over Cumby.  Ditka. Kevin goddamned Butler.  Their goddamned horrific fields.  Dan Hampton.  Their fans.  THEIR F**KING FANS.  Doug Plank.  Buddy Ryan.  Hub Arkush.  Doug Buffone.  Butkus.   Coming back to you now, isn't it? 

 

No pity.  No mercy.  F**k the bears.  

 

With that, let's revel in the top 5 best wins over the bears. 

 

1. NFCC game 1/23/11 21-14 win.  For pure importance it doesn't get bigger than this.  Literally it can't unless rules are changed for who can play for SB.  Only the 2nd playoff meeting of all time.  In Chicago.  Winner goes to the Super Bowl.  I've never been so amped/nervous/demented about a game in my life.  Mainly because I'm fairly confident my father would have died that day if they lost.  But, also because as disappointing it would have been to lose the NFCC, losing the NFCC to the Bears would have been an absolute horror show.  I sometimes think beating the Bears in the NFCC was more satisfying than the Super Bowl win, as no matter what - we will always be able to say we beat them at their place and prevented them from going to the Super Bowl.  That said, I know the win wouldn't mean as much without the SB title.

2. After Further Review 11/5/89 14-13 win.  I'm a sophomore college at Illinois.  Surrounded by Bears fans.  The emotions of that play go from elation to getting trash talked to doing the trash talking.  Ditka still pissed off to this day.  The asterisk.  Plus, at the time you really thought this was a resurgence of the Packers after years of hot garbage, as well as a win in a 3-18 stretch vs them.  

3. Taken by Chester Marcol! 9/7/80 12-6 win.  The glasses.  The single bar facemask.  A guy named Chester.  Sudden Death.  Craziest ending ever.  I hope he still has that football...

4. The Monsoon game 10/31/94 33-6 win.  Torrential rain.  Throw back uniforms.  Favre "running" for that 36 yard TD.  Sayers and Butkus getting their jerseys retired at halftime and then pour it on more in 2nd half.  I really thought we were up much bigger at half, but it was only 14-0.  Monday night game that introduced the nation to the new Green Bay Packers.  Cannot for the life of me find any video at all from that game.

5. Epic Beatdown 11/9/14  55-14 win.  I lived through 61-7.  I heard Dan friggin Jiggets talk about it on Chicago radio every 12 minutes.  Knowing that they probably could have put up 80 and backed off is even better than topping 61-7.  

6.  COBB!!!!! 12/29/13 33-28 win.  Maybe the 3rd most important game in terms of playoff impact.  Rodgers first game after coming back from collarbone.  Winner goes to playoffs.  Great game back and forth.  Boykin with the crazy fumble recovery TD and of course the Cobb TD pass after Rodgers just missed getting killed by Peppers.   I was SCREAMING about Jordy getting murdered on that play and it wasn't called.  Thank god we don't have to relive that missed call.  

 

Again.  F**k.  The.  bears.  ALWAYS.  Sweep the leg.  No mercy.

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The last NFC Championsip Title game played at Soldier Field was won by the Green Bay Packers. That has legs. 

 

And that game was number 2 in Green Bay beating Chicago 4 times in one calendar year. A monumental NFL rarity.  A feat that will never, ever be broken. 

I wonder if there were games similar to the ones mentioned above in the 30s/40s/50s?

Most of the stories we've read/heard from those eras are usually more about the fans from each city fighting or pranking each other, or the obligatory stories of how Halas saved Green Bay, and vice-versa.

 

I started following the Pack in the mid-60s, and as best as I remember, the rivalry has always been one-sided since. Of course, during "The Gory Years", they kicked our asses regularly, culminating the '85 season embarrassment. But, oh, how we have made them pay since! In either case, rarely have both teams been good at the same time. 

 

It's really remarkable that it took almost 100 years for the Packers/Bears to play a game with all the marbles on the line. That was the equivalent of the NFL Championship game before the Super Bowl era started. And for that reason, if nothing else, is the reason why it will always be my personal favorite as well.

 

The Monsoon game is a close second, because of the conditions. It wasn't Ice Bowl-cold, but it had to be every bit as miserable. It affected everybody, from the teams to the stadium personnel to the TV crew, not to mention the fans.
How we just dominated them was sweet! Add in the throwbacks, the rivalry, overcoming those conditions for flavor. And what better cherry on top than Butkus and Sayers having their ceremony? Satisfying to the soul, to say the least...

That 1994 Halloween monsoon game was a signature game cause it was the start of the current dominance by the Packers over the Bears. The Pack had a 10 game winning streak starting with that game, the longest winning streak by either team. The Bears longest on us was 8 games between 1985-1988. Actually during the "Gory Years " the teams were rather close in the matchup. During those decades the Bears beat us 22 times and the Pack beat them 16 times. It was during the 40's and 50's that the Bears really beat us up.

To think we have a chance to finally tie the head to head record with them after 82 years of them having the lead on us is quite remarkable. The last time the rivalry was tied the record was 11-11-4 in 1933, after then the Bears have led us ever since. So here we are, 82 years later in the year 2015 and we can finally tie them again at 93-93-6.

The NFC championship game was the best it can ever get. To beat them on the biggest stage the teams can play on and to win the trophy named after their legendary coach at Soldier Field was about the best NFCCG a Packer fan could experience, and a complete nightmare for a Bears fan. And after all that two weeks later they get to see us win our 4th Super Bowl. That 2010 playoff run may never be duplicated in that regard.

Like ChilliJon noted the Pack beat them 4 times during the calendar year of 2011, that is nuts considering the Bears have beaten us 4 times in the last 8 years.

 

 

To me it is the Vikings I hate more than any other and that probably has to do with so much of my family living in Minnesota.  Every holiday when I was a kid (during the gory years) my cousins would taunt me with how good the Vikings were and the Packers sucked.  My only trash talking I could do was every year the Vikings lost the Super Bowl I would get a jersey of the team that beat them.  Shut them up for a second.  I hate that teams fans, that damn horn, and anything purple is dead to me.

 

Now don't get me wrong I HATE the Bears.  I loathe the FIBS and everything about them.  What really sucks is that part of my inlaws are from $hitcago and I get to spend a good part of the Thanksgiving weekend with them.  But my wife still has not managed to convince me to let them in my house for the game.  I told her that no Bears crap is in my house.  EVER

 

And by the way the Chester Marcol TD still makes me smile to this day because it drives FIBS nuts.

 

Originally Posted by The Heckler:

I HATE the Bears.  I loathe the FIBS and everything about them. What really sucks is that part of my inlaws are from $hitcago and I get to spend a good part of the Thanksgiving weekend with them. But my wife still has not managed to convince me to let them in my house for the game.  I told her that no Bears crap is in my house.  EVER

golf ball through a garden hose?

 

chrome off a tail-pipe?

 

 

No hate here. Don't get me wrong. I want to beat them bad, but they are not a bunch of fools like the spermheads and their fans, especially the current regime. I have a good proper respect for them and want to beat the snot out of them. I have lived in Illinois for over 10 of the last 15 years and have heard more bear's talk on the Score than anything else so I know them pretty well. I love the feeling of a Jay Cutler interception and any Bears loss, and beating them in the NFCCG was beyond any regular season win. It is so much better beating them when we are both good.

 

The Halloween Game is maybe my most memorable regular season game period. Edgar Bennett muding it up and running all over the bears. Favre tackling Bennett in the endzone after his TD. I almost felt bad for Gale Sayers and Dick Butkus at halftime when they were honoring them (I think retiring their numbers) and the wind whipping around them and rain pelting them.

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Originally Posted by Goalline:

For me it's the Lions...just kidding.

In order to have a rivalry the other team must be capable of beating your team, by this criteria the only in divisional rivalry we have is with the Lions.  

Originally Posted by Hungry5:
 

Originally Posted by The Heckler:

I HATE the Bears.  I loathe the FIBS and everything about them. What really sucks is that part of my inlaws are from $hitcago and I get to spend a good part of the Thanksgiving weekend with them. But my wife still has not managed to convince me to let them in my house for the game.  I told her that no Bears crap is in my house.  EVER

golf ball through a garden hose?

 

chrome off a tail-pipe?

 

Those things are like bigfoot to a married man.  You see pictures and hear stories but they don't exist.  But IF they did I could be persuaded.

 

Originally Posted by San Doggy:

 

The NFC championship game was the best it can ever get. To beat them on the biggest stage the teams can play on and to win the trophy named after their legendary coach at Soldier Field was about the best NFCCG a Packer fan could experience, and a complete nightmare for a Bears fan. And after all that two weeks later they get to see us win our 4th Super Bowl. That 2010 playoff run may never be duplicated in that regard.

 

Like a finely aged wine...it should be swished around the palate to once again enjoy the warm glow of it all.

 

 

This.  IS the greatest post of all time.  Thank you for giving clarity to all my thoughts on how much and why we hate the Bears (of course, there's the tolls on I94 - but that's more of a FIB thing).

 

You can bring up Chester Marcol to any Bears fan and they immediately throw up their hands in disgust.  So. So. Good.  Really the highlight of the Bart Starr coaching years.

 

 

Don't forget what the sh!!y Soldier Field did to Eddie Lee Ivery and, by extension, what that did to Bart Starr's chances for success. I was 9 years old when the Packers drafted Ivery and in preseason the buzz about him was off the charts. He just looked like a future superstar/HOF type player. He was going to be a Barry Sanders type running back. He then went into Soldier Field on opening day and in his first 3 carries gained 24 yards and promptly blew his knee out. He returned the next year and was a decent back, but then blew out a knee in the first game of the year in 1981 AGAIN at Soldier Field. In that game, he had 14 carries for 72 yards and a TD. He was never the same after that.

 

Imagine if Bart Starr as the head coach would have had James Lofton and Eddie Lee Ivery both under 23 years of age to develop on the same team. It would be the equivalent of having Barry Sanders and Randy Moss together (yes, Lofton was almost that good - if he would have played now he would have been unguardable). Starr makes the playoffs earlier and those two guys lead us to some playoff wins.

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:

The last several years, I've reminded people of this and now again it is my duty to remind all of you that it is the bears that were, are, and always will be our main rivals.  

That may be, but as a storied franchise and being an actual rival, I can still respect those things. I'd argue that very respect coupled with the distaste for them is the very heart of the rivalry. I will always remember the Robert Brooks 99-yard TD Pass, Edgar in the mud, and even Payton pulling Mark Lee out-of-bounds and over the bench from a sly, inside hand.  

 

The same does not hold true for the Vikings and their rubes, regardless of their wishes.

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yea, I cant drum up the hate for the Bears like I do the Vikings. Bears try to do it their way and they just fail time and time again. The Vikings try to do things like the Packers and they fail time and time again. Vikings are like the little step brothers that hate the big brother out of pure jealousy. I have respect for the Bears. None for the Vikings. Even the Bear fans while delusional are not filled with the same hateful rhetoric of the Viking fans. Mutual respect for Bears. Mutal hate for the Vikings. 

I want the Packers to beat the Bears every time they play AND have something at stake in the game. That means I want the Bears to be ALMOST as successful as the Packers.

 When the Lions went 0-16 it was pathetic. If the vikings did it would be funny.

Originally Posted by Boris:
Remember what the record was at the end of the 1988 season....& NEVER forget.

Never forgot that horrible team but by beating Arizona the last game, we lost the chance to get Aikman and ended up with Mandarich. I wonder by winning that last game if the next few years would have changed anything. Would Wolf/Holmgren have kept Aikman? Would Mandarich have gone to the Cowboys and changed their early 90s success? Would Farve have been traded? Maybe losing that last game was the best for the long term.  

Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:

Don't forget what the sh!!y Soldier Field did to Eddie Lee Ivery and, by extension, what that did to Bart Starr's chances for success. I was 9 years old when the Packers drafted Ivery and in preseason the buzz about him was off the charts. He just looked like a future superstar/HOF type player. He was going to be a Barry Sanders type running back.

Great post. I watched Eddie Lee set the then NCAA record single-game rushing mark of 356 yards versus my alma mater in 1978. Great runner, great receiver as well. That ****ing zipped-together turf on concrete. That and the field in the old Vet in Philly were career enders.

Toss in the Astrodome for good measure. 

 

I hate the Vikings. Badly. I realize this may come as a surprise to some. But I truly, deeply hate that team. 

 

But the opening post of this thread was all kinds of great. When you get right down to it the Bears are the rivals. They have been forever. And given we're getting close to the 5 year anniversary when that improbable run started and the Bears were heavily involved in how things played out its great to remember how much beating them actually means. 

 

Lets be honest. There isn't a better way to start a Monday than opening X4 and seeing B***s Week in the pole position. It matters. 

Some data:

 

The last time the Packers were tied in the all time series - September 23rd, 1934

The Packers have led the series after only 7 points.  Last time - December 11, 1932

The most games ahead the Packers have been in series is 2 games, twice - 11/1/31 and 10/16/32.

The most games behind the Packers have been in series is 24 games, twice - 9/25/60 and 10/25/92

Longest Packer winning streak is 10 games - 10/31/94 to 12/27/98

Longest Packer losing streak is 8 games - 10/21/85 to 11/27/88

 

EDIT Adding more

Packers losses in series by average - 11.8 pts

Packers largest margin of defeat - 54 points

Packers wins in series by average - 11.9 pts

Packers largest margin of win - 49 points

Packers total points - 3270

Packers average points - 17.1

bears total points - 3273

bears average points - 17.1

 

EDIT More oddities

Each team has won a 2-0 game, a 38-7 game, a 31-10 game, a 26-7 game, and a 24-3 game.

The most common scores - 21-0 (4x) and 7-6 (4x)

 

Which means should the Packers win by 3 Thursday night, the series will be 93-93-6 and both teams will have scored the exact same number of points.  HO LEE CRAP.  

 

F**K THE bears.

 

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Brett Favre addressing the Packers locker room tomorrow interupted by:

 

"Don't talk to me about this team bitch. Remember when you told me go beat Green Bay in two weeks? I never formally told you to eat **** and **** off you self absorbed cock sucker. I'm so glad we blacked your ass out. So you go on ahead and get your number hung and play like you care. Just dont run your **** in this room you turncoat me first mother****er" 

 

Julius Peppers. 

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Thank you for this post btw.  It says all that needs to be said.

 

Yes, I hate the queens too, but when it gets down to it, the bores are where it's at for rivals.

 

I remember back in the early 80s and I saw the disparity between them and us for wins/losses.  I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER thought I would see, in my lifetime, the chance to tie this thing up.

 

Amazing.

 

TBSS!!

 

F the BORES!!

 

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

Brett Favre addressing the Packers locker room tomorrow interupted by:

 

"Don't talk to me about this team bitch. Remember when you told me go beat Green Bay in two weeks? I never formally told you to eat **** and **** off you self absorbed cock sucker. I'm so glad we blacked your ass out" 

 

Julius Peppers. 

My early years as a Packer fan I learned that it wasn't a successful season unless you beat the Bears.  Nothing else mattered.

 

I didn't go to church on Sunday, I went to grandma's and the shrine was her Packer Memorabilia from the glory day around the TV..  One of the major commandments of our family religion is thou must hate the Bears.  

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