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I would bet Favre's advisors have scrubbed his old emails and text messages clean. I have no doubt he's said some things in the past that would get him in deep trouble (aside from the obvious Jenn Sterger stuff we already know about).

The thing with him is that he's probably arrogant and dumb enough to have continued to send messages like that even after he was "disciplined" by the NFL after he retired.

I can imagine messages between Gruden and him occurring.

True story...Favrie's brother Scott used to be the one in charge of Favrie's autograph side hustle. Scott would sign 99% of everything for Bert, with Bert's blessing...because he didn't want to bother with it.

They had thousands of pieces a week they were selling...balls, helmets, jerseys, mini helmets, photos, you name it, they signed it and sold it. Scott farmed out the signing to a guy I know when he was a poor GA at Southern Miss...used to pay him $1 per signature.

My friend told me "we'd sign anything people wanted, no questions asked. Scott would sign a dildo if it made him money."

So "shady," is a family virtue.

My BiL went to school with the Mantle boys in Dallas. So, Micky autographed a baseball to me on my 30th birthday. Danny Mantle gave me a Mantle & Martin autographed photo from the mid 50s. Micky & Billy on a NY city street looking kind smug as younins'.

My brother worked for the ad agency years ago that did Wis state lottery promotions and spent a weekend with Nitschke filming commercials and some other promo stuck. He got Ray to autograph a photo to me.

These are all in a box on the shelf in my closet.

My Dad was a cop in Milwaukee in the mid-60's. He hung out at a bar that Doug Hart and Bob Long frequented. Around 1967, they gave him an autographed Duke football signed by what looked to be the entire team. He brought it home and gave it to me and my brothers.

By the time it wore out from us playing football in the street with it, you couldn't even tell it was a Duke. I have never had the heart to even guess what it would be worth today.

I used to have one of those paper Chi-Chi's sombreros with Pete Vukovich's autograph.  I was on a Brewer game outing with my parents and one of my childhood friends and his parents.  After the game we went to Chi-Chi's and noticed Pete Vukovich and his wife (?) sitting a few tables away, so like everyone else in the restaurant went to get his autograph.  As my friend and I were heading to the line, paper sombreros in hand, my mom (who had quite a few margaritas by this time), shouted to me (and the entire restaurant) to tell Vukovich that "He isn't that goddamn good of a ball player!  You tell that son of a bitch your father is a real ball player and better than he'll ever be!"

So yeah, that went well.

To be fair, my dad probably WAS a better ball player than Vukovich.

Found on the internet:

A part of a blockbuster seven-player trade in December 1980, Vuckovich went to the Milwaukee Brewers along with Rollie Fingers and Ted Simmons.

With the Brewers, Vuckovich continued his stellar pitching. He led the American League in wins (14) and winning percentage Win-Loss % (.778) during the strike-shortened 1981 season. When Milwaukee won the AL pennant in 1982, Vuckovich won the Cy Young Award with an 18-6 record and a 3.34 ERA, and once again tied for the league lead with the Baltimore Orioles' Jim Palmer in winning percentage Win-Loss % (.750)

He lost Game Two of the ALCS to the Angels 4-2, and started the decisive fifth game, though not figuring in the decision. In the 1982 World Series, the Cardinals beat him 6-2 in Game Three, and he got a no-decision in the final loss.

This was, however, proved to be the zenith of his career, as Vuckovich had been battling shoulder pain for two seasons, and in spring training of 1983, it was discovered he had torn his rotator cuff. Vuckovich skipped surgery in favor of an exercise rehabilitation. He attempted an unsuccessful comeback for three games and went 0-2 in 14 innings, then missed all of 1984. Subsequent and prolonged comeback attempts all failed, and by the end of the 1986 season, Milwaukee released Vuckovich.

In an eleven-season career, Vuckovich posted a 93-69 record with 882 strikeouts and a 3.66 ERA in 1455.1 innings pitched. In postseason play, he was 1-2 with a 3.74 ERA.

While with the Brewers, Vuckovich co-owned a bar in Milwaukee with outfielder Gorman Thomas. It was called "Stormin' & Vuke's", a play on their nicknames.

@Blair Kiel posted:

My Dad was a cop in Milwaukee in the mid-60's. He hung out at a bar that Doug Hart and Bob Long frequented. Around 1967, they gave him an autographed Duke football signed by what looked to be the entire team. He brought it home and gave it to me and my brothers.

By the time it wore out from us playing football in the street with it, you couldn't even tell it was a Duke. I have never had the heart to even guess what it would be worth today.

Yes, but think of all the fun y'all had playing with that thing.

@YATittle posted:

True. Sorry. Wikipedia. I wanted to see how old he was.

You need to literally link it.  It's not for our sake, it's for the writer's sake.  Wikipedia not exactly a big deal but if you aren't linking Packer writers, etc. it can cause a problem for the board.

Some "journalists" crib the shit out of other sources, it's a fucking industry, but big brains think about the effort of the writer and the credit due.

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@Henry posted:

You need to literally link it.  It's not for our sake, it's for the writer's sake.  Wikipedia not exactly a big deal but if you aren't linking Packer writers, etc. it can cause a problem for the board.

Some "journalists" crib the shit out of other sources, it's a fucking industry, but big brains think about the effort of the writer and the credit due.

You think numb nuts cares about giving credit to content creators? He’d much rather have somebody think he wrote it. He’s done that shit 50 times here.

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