Fernando Mania

Wow.

Just wow.

We shall never, ever see stretches  like that again.

Aug 19, 1999.  Pedro Martinez struck out 11 in a win over Oakland.  For the next 9 games (spanning two seasons), he struck out more than 10 guys in each game (averaged 13 K/G).   Chris Sale came close with 8 in 2015.

In 2004, Ben Sheets pitched 237 innings.  His K/9 was 10 (264), and his W/9 was 1.2 (32).   

In Sept of '87, Teddy Higuera threw 32 consecutive scoreless innings.  

Which two year stretch you got?  

Pedro 1999-2000

• 41-10
• 1.90 ERA
• 12 CG, 5 SHO
• ERA+ 265
• FIP 1.79
• WHIP 0.830
• 1.4 BB/9
• 12.5 SO/9

Maddux 1994-1995

• 35-8
• 1.60 ERA
• 20 CG, 6 SHO
• ERA+ 265
• FIP 2.62
• WHIP 0.853
• 1.2 BB/9
• 7.4 SO/9

Also, this game from Maddux is B A N A N A S

A complete game. 77 total pitches. 63 of them strikes.  Good lord.

Loved the ESPN documentary on Fernandomania, and I was a new transplant from Wisconsin who had a friend, a co-worker who had tickets and we seemed to be there at least 10 games he pitched, getting Lapu Lapus at Tip's before the game on the way to the stadium from Bakersfield. I know that wasn't safe.

@El-Ka-Bong posted:

 

In 2004, Ben Sheets pitched 237 innings.  His K/9 was 10 (264), and his W/9 was 1.2 (32).   

 

Sheets did all that and had a win-loss record of 12-14. 

https://www.baseball-reference...mp;t=p&year=2004

He was charged for losses in games in which he gave up the following number of earned runs. He was charged with 6 losses in games in which he gave up 2 or less earned runs. Just from that he could have easily been something like 18-8 just from that. 

1. 3 earned runs in 7 2/3 innings

2. 3 earned runs in 8 innings

3. 2 earned runs in 8 innings

4. 4 earned runs in 6 innings

5. 0 earned runs in 7 innings

6. 2 earned runs in 7 innings

7. 5 earned runs in 5 2/3 innings

8. 4 earned run-in 7 innings

9. 4 earned runs in 8 innings

10. 6 earned runs in 6 innings

11. 2 earned runs in 7 innings

12. 2 earned runs in 8 innings

13. 3 earned runs in 6 innings

14. 1 earned run in 7 innings

Some of his no decisions were even more frustrating. 

1 earned run in 7 innings

0 earned runs in 6 innings, 

0 earned runs and 1 hit in 9 innings (Brewers won in 10 innings)

2 earned runs in 8 innigs

Should have been considered the best Brewer starting pitcher season in history (and probably was).

34 starts, 105 pitches/game, 31 starts of at least 6 innings. 

All for a shitty team. 

The Lynn Dickey of Brewer pitchers.

Rumor was he did nothing to take care of himself, which lead to his break down.  

Truly he was a beer league champion that year (and 8th in Cy Young)

Maddux v Pedro?  I go with Pedro 10 out of 10 times.  That is no knock on Greg, but Pedro will always stand out to me as the most fascinating pitcher to watch during his hey day (close second is Randy Johnson, distant 3rd is Jamie Moyer). 

@antooo posted:

The Lynn Dickey of Brewer pitchers.

Dickey would have thrived in today's NFL because he had been seriously injured so many times he was gun shy (who could blame him). 

I think he'd be a Phillip Rivers type in today's NFL. He'd throw less interceptions in today's game and Dickey had a great arm.

Having said that, Sheets was a potential Hall of Fame level player. Can you imagine if he'd have played for a good team that would have had a decent bullpen and put up even a minimal amount of runs? He started to break down after that year because they overused him. That season alone he could have easily been something like 24-7 for a good team. 

Sheets had a 5 year stretch from 2004 to 2009 where he started 127 games. In those 127 games he averaged about 7 innings a start and struck out 785 batters (almost a batter an inning). His WHIP was 1.09 for those 5 years. It's not Pedro or Maddux, but it's basically what Gerritt Cole has for WHIP in his career. Sheets did all that to go 53-44. Sheets was more of a comparison for Gale Gillingham. Gillingham got to play the last year of so of Lombardi's tenure but then was a superstar level offensive lineman for what basically were crappy Green Bay teams. He should be a Hall of Famer, but barely gets mentioned even by Packer fans. 

If Sheets would have had that 5 year stretch with a team like the Yankees or the Red Sox, he would have been a perennial Cy Young candidate, he'd have stayed healthier because those teams would have had competent middle relievers to save some of the extra pitches in the 7th and 8th innings, and he might have put up another 6-8 years after that close to that level. 

I believe it is Jerry Kramer's book Distant Replay  where he did a tour of the US visiting players from the 1967 team.  When he visited Gilly in Minnesota, Gilly showed him he could still dunk a basketball at age 50+.  He was an outstanding athlete. 

From 2015 through 2018 Khris Davis batted .247 in 2,356 at bats.  His batting average each of those years?

2015 - .247

2016- .247

2017- .247

2018- .247

The Mendoza Line of Mediocrity.

Couldn't be more wrong.  His OPS was over .800 all 4 of those years.  

Was a big fan of those 90s Atlanta Braves teams and their overall starting pitching was at times dominant.   The two year run by Greg Maddux referenced earlier was unbelievable.

I probably should have known this already but if you want to see impressive stats look up John Smoltz postseason numbers. 15-4 with an ERA of 2.67 and a WHIP of 1.144.  Take out one WS game against Cleveland where he only lasted 2 innings and his WHIP is likely under 1. 

@El-Ka-Bong posted:

Couldn't be more wrong.  His OPS was over .800 all 4 of those years.  

Trust me. I could be more wrong.

You going to talk me into Johhny Estrada and Yuniesky Betancourt were good players and Russell Branyan doesn't deserve a Brewers walk of fame spot

I’d rather convince you that Brady Anderson wasn’t on the juice the year he got 50 bombs.

I still think the pitching staff of the Orioles (circa 1969-72 or so) was the best ever...especially that 1971 season.  Wow:

Mike Cuellar; Pat Dobson; Dave McNally, and Jim Palmer.

Braves in 1997 with Smoltz, Glavine, Neagle and Maddux went 68-28 as starters and their combined ERA was 2.78 with an WHIP of around 1.1 as a group. 

Thanks Marlins 

Considering how he throws...

Pitchers with at least 200 career innings pitched and 0 wild pitches since 1958:

Josh Hader

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