If there was one like Julio Jones, would you do it? Would it take the Pack over the hump?
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we need, like, 12 impact guys
Ditka tried that, didn't work. How quickly you forget.
Jesus ****....we won the superbowl two years ago.
Atlanta has squeeked out one playoff win in the great career of Julieo Jones
Now atlanta is the ****ing blueprint.
Maybe we just need to do things the viking way
Atlanta has squeeked out one playoff win in the great career of Julieo Jones
Now atlanta is the ****ing blueprint.
Maybe we just need to do things the viking way
Patriots are clearly the team to emulate what with all their recent post season success.
I just want TT to trade some picks with Belichick again.
If ATL loses today, just look at their D. Ya, they have great WR's.
They also have gaping holes in their secondary and no pass rush to speak of.
They also have gaping holes in their secondary and no pass rush to speak of.
No way. Jones had a great half, but he's disappeared in the second half (0 points for Atlanta). It's too easy to take away 1 player, especially a WR.
The only time you give up an entire draft for 1 player is if you are 110% it's for a franchise QB. No other position is worth it.
The only time you give up an entire draft for 1 player is if you are 110% it's for a franchise QB. No other position is worth it.
James Jones has had more impressive TD catches than Julio Jones. As for giving up a draft for one player, what happens if that player gets hurt? (Ask the Redskins)
How's that trade looking now for Atlanta?
Look at how many holes are on that D. Did Kaperdick get pressured once? Could anyone even come close to covering either Zach Miller or Vernon Davis?
They gave up a lot for Julio Jones. And still no SB.
Look at how many holes are on that D. Did Kaperdick get pressured once? Could anyone even come close to covering either Zach Miller or Vernon Davis?
They gave up a lot for Julio Jones. And still no SB.
Roddy White and Tony Gonzales were just as important for ATL and they didn't give up the farm to get either of them.
Stick with the ROTTT draft plan and hope they can sign a free agent or two.
Stick with the ROTTT draft plan and hope they can sign a free agent or two.
Copernicus was sacked once and had the guy in his face another time (15yd flag). For the most part, ATL had the middle clogged up with good lane discipline. Gore still got his yards but boy, it sure beats seeing CK run for 2 bills.
Atlanta's best pass rusher hardly played today, and when he did, he's injured.
quote:Originally posted by PackLandVA:
Atlanta's best pass rusher hardly played today, and when he did, he's injured.
Exactly. Atlanta has 1 pass rusher and unless he's at 100%, they have no pass rush.
So Atlanta gave up 2 firsts and a second rounder for Julio Jones (ignoring the swap of fourths, just to keep it simple). Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but they could have had the following instead of Julio Jones:
-Muhammed Wilkerson
-Torrey Smith or Randall Cobb
-Whitney Mercilus
I mean, can you imagine how good Atlanta could be if they had Wilkerson, Smith/Cobb, and Mercilus? Granted you need to make the right picks, but even hitting on two of those picks is arguably better for Atlanta.
quote:Originally posted by cuqui:
I just want TT to trade some picks with Belichick again.
quote:Originally posted by CUPackFan:
So Atlanta gave up 2 firsts and a second rounder for Julio Jones (ignoring the swap of fourths, just to keep it simple). Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but they could have had the following instead of Julio Jones:
-Muhammed Wilkerson or maybe Jabal Sheard
-Torrey Smith or Randall Cobb or maybe Jerrel Jernigan
-Whitney Mercilus or maybe some other player that's not gonna pan out
Look, I'm not suggesting the deal was a good move or even necessary. And I'd say more often than not, this type of deal doesn't work out. They "went for it" and time will tell if it was the right move. Jones looks like a player...but at what cost?
quote:Originally posted by CUPackFan:
Obviously hindsight is 20/20...
I agree with you 100% here!
They had their chance to tank the season at 2-3. Didn't work out so good. Damn 9-2 finish.
quote:Originally posted by noiropus:
If there was one like Julio Jones, would you do it? Would it take the Pack over the hump?
Did it get Atlanta over the hump? No...
I want to see TT draft some tough-nosed MFer's to play the middle of the field on both sides of the ball.
A little surprised the first half of the game appeared to be enough to convince some that the Jones trade was a good move. The price was way too high at the time and remains so.
Not specifically talking about an offensive player. Would anyone give up a draft for jj watt?
All the reasons listed above and you still ask? 
The draft is too risky a proposition to make that kind of investment on a single player. If it doesn't quite pan out as expected you've set the franchise back for years.
Unless it's a franchise QB, no way.
Are you going to trade....
Josh Sitton, Randall Cobb, J-Finley, Mason Crosby, Bryan Bulaga
for...
Julio Jones?
(obviously not the same draft but different rounds)
Sorry, he's just not worth that much & I don't care what he did yesterday vs. the Niners.
Are you going to trade....
Josh Sitton, Randall Cobb, J-Finley, Mason Crosby, Bryan Bulaga
for...
Julio Jones?
(obviously not the same draft but different rounds)
Sorry, he's just not worth that much & I don't care what he did yesterday vs. the Niners.
quote:Originally posted by PackerHawk:
They had their chance to tank the season at 2-3. Didn't work out so good. Damn 9-2 finish.
exactly, I swear some Packer fans really miss drafting in the top 10
quote:had the guy in his(kaepernick's) face another time (15yd flag)
the NFL needs to address that BS call too. I get it. They want to protect the QB's head, it's off limits. But a guy swiping his hand past the front of the QB's face and his follow through slightly bumps the facemask... I can't believe that was the intent of the rule.
This was the Falcons shot. they'll fade next year, Saints will be revived with the return of their coach, they'll miss Gonzalez and that D needs as many if not more studs than the Packers D.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Josh Sitton, Randall Cobb, J-Finley, Mason Crosby, Bryan Bulaga
But wouldn't it be cool if it was Quinn Johnson, Jamon Meredith, Jarius Wynn and Brandon Underwood?
That being siad, not a fan of the Ditka approach but what is the threshold? Exchange your first plus two more picks to move into the top 10 for a dude you think is a stud?
TT has done it once before to get C3TO so he has it in him.
Still think we need a couple D-Ends at some point. Then on passing downs line up all pass rushers across the line and end double/triple teams.
I'd probably never pull the trigger on that kind of deal if I was a GM, but then again I still haven't gotten any front office offers following my 9-5 fantasy season.
If you make that move, I agree with Boris that it has to be for a QB. Calvin Johnson may well end up the greatest receiver of all time, and look what that gets you. How was the hope that Julio comes even close to that worth two drafts? And the Ditka-Ricky trade is even more hilarious in hindsight now that the RB position is valued somewhere between kicker and ball boy.
The jury is still out on the RGIII trade, but it will be tough to fault WAS if he keeps at this pace.
If you make that move, I agree with Boris that it has to be for a QB. Calvin Johnson may well end up the greatest receiver of all time, and look what that gets you. How was the hope that Julio comes even close to that worth two drafts? And the Ditka-Ricky trade is even more hilarious in hindsight now that the RB position is valued somewhere between kicker and ball boy.
The jury is still out on the RGIII trade, but it will be tough to fault WAS if he keeps at this pace.
I don't blame Washington for that trade, Griffin was a stud prospect at the most important position and also seemed to be fairly "safe" from the aspect of being a good kid as well as a good player.
I wouldn't be opposed to Green Bay making a move up around 5-10 spots, I would have liked to see them move on Ingram (and later Reyes) last year when he made it as far as he did or even Shea Mc. But giving up a huge deal for a non-QB is madness when you have as many holes to fill as the Packers do.
I wouldn't be opposed to Green Bay making a move up around 5-10 spots, I would have liked to see them move on Ingram (and later Reyes) last year when he made it as far as he did or even Shea Mc. But giving up a huge deal for a non-QB is madness when you have as many holes to fill as the Packers do.