Thankfully the NFL grew some stones with this enforcement policy.
The Packers are the least of his worries...Hairbrain needs to focus on his own division...the Seachickens will light him up like a Christmas tree every chance they get. Kap has been a durable QB through his career...but he hasn't been teed off for an entire NFL season yet.
Originally Posted by chickenboy:
It's called "gamesmanship" and it's something many of the great ones like Phil Jackson have done for years. With read-option being so in vogue it's a smart move to get the refs thinking about it before the ball is even kicked off.
Pretty much what I thought, too. The guy can be quite the d-bag, but he was born to be an NFL head coach.
And if Aldon Smith get's flagged next week for burying Wilson on a read option play he's going to spittle mouth foam like a broke sprinkler.
Harbaugh is nothing more than a marginal QB living vicariously through his team to compensate for his playing failure.
Originally Posted by heyward:
Harbaugh wouldn't be a "raving, whiny bitch" if he was coaching the Packers.
Except, see, he's NOT coaching the Packers, because GB doesn't hire raving, whiny bitches.
But what are the chances that TT would hire an emotionally immature prick like Harbaugh or Schwartz?
No clue...and luckily we don't have to worry about that for a long time with MM on board.
I hear a lot of bitching about Harbaugh and his sister in Seattle, but I think both of them are pretty damn good coaches.
Smack-talking Harbaugh's personality isn't "bitching," IMO, it's good, clean, well-deserved fun.
You gotta admit a meltdown in Week 1 would be sweet.
Originally Posted by Pakrz:
No clue...and luckily we don't have to worry about that for a long time with MM on board.
I hear a lot of bitching about Harbaugh and his sister in Seattle, but I think both of them are pretty damn good coaches.
Pete Carroll wasn't a very good coach in NE. I'm waiting for that rah rah boy to go down.
Originally Posted by Boston Jim:
Pete Carroll wasn't a very good coach in NE.
People talk like Carroll before USC was an absolute failure in the NFL. He was actually a long-time successful coordinator before getting head jobs. He got one year with the Jets for some reason but actually made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years with the Patriots. If I remember correctly, he may have been a casualty of that Pats/Jets/Parcells/BB soap opera. Interesting about that whole deal is it seems like the Tuna ended up with the short end of that 3 pronged stick.
Carroll had one year with the NYJ as their HC and was fired after going 6-10. Carroll won in NEP with a Parcells loaded team. Parcells - 2 SB titles w/NYG and then a SB appearance w/NEP - left NEP in a dispute w/ownership. Carroll's Pat's went to the playoffs in '97 (thanks Parcells), lost in WC round in '98, missed the playoffs in '99... he was then fired.
He's a rah-rah guy who's schtick runs out quick on pros.
not to mention he's a cud chewing cow during games
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
He's a rah-rah guy who's schtick runs out quick on pros.
Jury still out on that. This year may prove if the above statement is right or wrong.
Methinks he is the stereotypical "players coach." I suspect players like playing for him but he could possibly lose control and he has some characters on that club who could make that happen.
The Hags are going to be interesting to watch this season...
Carroll's winning % with the Shehawks is 52%.
Let's see how good Harbaugh is when his team is loaded 100% with players he has brought in. Right now Harbaugh is playing with a lot of holdovers, more than half of the starters from Singletary's team. At least Carroll only has 1 or 2 holdovers, Harbaugh is loaded with players that aren't his. He had a good first draft, but his 2nd draft was horrible.
Trent Baalke is the Niners GM and has been been for awhile. The team had good/decent personnel before Harbaugh but underachieved.
It's OK to admit the guy is a helluva coach even if you think he is a (insert whatever).
It's also OK to admit MM is a helluva coach which I don't ever recall you doing. Then again I had you on ignore for years so maybe you have once.
You don't have me on ignore...admit it.
I do think he is a "heckuva" coach and TT is a "helluva" GM. Not sure how one could think differently.
I said "I had" you on ignore, I've learned to embrace the unintentional humor that makes you... you.
Oh Jeeeeeez Shoeless, dont encourage the SOB
Were you saying McCarthy was a helluva coach when he took his team to the NFCC in his 2nd year or were you chirping that they made it because of Favre? Guarantee it was the latter.Explain the difference.
Not sure what I was chirping about back then. But since the team had a long series of early playoff disappointments and expectations weren't very high for that season I suspect I was quite happy with M3. As I am now.
I seem to remember many, and I believe you were one of them, crediting the Sherman holdovers like Favre with making McCarthy look better.
I believe M3 was happy with some of the players Sherman (and Wolf) left for him. I don't think they would have been as successful if they had 53 different players and I don't think that is going out on a limb.
Same thing applies to Harbaugh. He's getting already talented players to actually play, good for him. Not saying he's a bad coach by any means, but I'm not ready to call him a great coach or even a helluva good coach. Lets see him coach up a roster that is almost completely his to a SB win. Don't forget, Rex Ryan took teams to back to back AFCC and was hailed as helluva coach until he lost some guys and couldn't replace them.
"'I believe that when a quarterback is handing a ball off or faking a ball -- in the read-option case, he's reading on an option play and he's as defenseless as a quarterback who's in the act of throwing,' Harbaugh said."
So the defense is supposed to stand by, watch and wait until the QB hands the ball off? What a crock.
Rules are rules Jim.
Niners choose to run this offense. Just like coaches that choose to run a reverse to a player that ends up throwing a pass 30 yards downfield. Should there be new rules implemented to start protecting those players that are throwing a pass after a reverse now?
Niners choose to run this offense. Just like coaches that choose to run a reverse to a player that ends up throwing a pass 30 yards downfield. Should there be new rules implemented to start protecting those players that are throwing a pass after a reverse now?
Harbaugh is trying to influence the refs. He knows if the Packers are allowed to smack his QB the chances of his team losing greatly increase.
The 49ers need to be able to run the ball against the Packers, they do not have much of a receiving core right now. If they can not run the ball and the Packers can protect Rodgers the Packers will smoke them big time.
Pete Carroll is a putz and there's a reason he's never lasted longer than a few years at any of his coaching stints. His act gets old. To his credit, he seems to have great timing when to bail before the improprieties catch up with him or his teams approach the cliff before falling off.
Seattle's in good shape because of their front office. John Schneider has done one helluva job there and they have added a number of very good players regardless of whatever Carroll has done.
Originally Posted by Tschmack:
To his credit, he seems to have great timing when to bail before the improprieties catch up with him or his teams approach the cliff before falling off.
Well, he did that one time. Getting fired two other times I suspect wasn't great timing for him.
Originally Posted by Tschmack:
Seattle's in good shape because of their front office. John Schneider has done one helluva job there and they have added a number of very good players regardless of whatever Carroll has done.
Success on the field goes hand-in-hand with front office. Proof of that is in San Francisco and Green Bay with Baalke/Singletary to Baalke/Harbaugh and Green Bay with Sherman/Sherman to TT/M3.
I saw him whining on NFL network and I thought we are so deep into his head right now that I suspect we'll really knock him and his team off his game. The absence of Kaepernick's best targets will be telling.
Not sure about that. As most of us know, football is won in the trenches. The Niner Oline and front seven on defense are as good as it gets in the NFL.
This is one game guys... not the season. Win or lose, let's keep that in mind Sunday night after the game.
The QB must go down and they must go down hard
Week 1 games are weird. Half the time it doesn't matter who the better team is.
I've always wondered why more teams don't try to get after the QB like how this has all been described. Sure, not everyone has Cam Newton's or RGIII's talent but it makes all the sense in the world. Hit the QB and hit them again and again. The problem in the NFL is that the QBs are so shielded and protected by the rules and the refs that it makes it a lot more difficult strategy to carry out. The other factor is that teams know they can't get their QB hurt so I think they pick their spots. In the playoff game against GB, I think they only ran something like 12-15 read option plays overall so it's not like Kaepernick was pulling down the ball and running 40 times a game. The main thing is the defensive players that are out on the edge need to be decisive and hit the QB. If Kaepernick does get out of the pocket as a runner they need to make him pay as well.
Baalke/Singletary
FYI, It was Scot McCloughan/Singletary, who incidentally, is now in Seattle. Baalke was hired as GM before Harbaugh took the job as HC