Didn't know if this should go in the 2020 Free Agents or the firing thread...Haskins gone
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HOLY SHIT!!!!
We have released QB Dwayne Haskins pic.twitter.com/KRrWxWra7E
— Washington Football Team (@WashingtonNFL) December 28, 2020
Riverboat Ron really is the leader of that org -- shocking!
either going to get him humble or go total AB...this is the fork for you bud.
Two incidents of failure to comply to Covid protocol, stripped of captainship, and then posted a QBR of 37 yesterday.
He had two more years left on his rookie deal. He's only played in 16 games. I think this is all about sending a message to the team as I'm sure someone would have given up a late round pick for a 1st round QB with 2 years left of their cheap rookie contract.
Everyone I’ve talked to says the same thing about Haskins: “He’s not a bad kid. He’s actually a good kid. He’s definitely talented. He needs to grow up. ... Needs to understand the mental side of the NFL quarterback.”
— Mike Jones (@ByMikeJones) December 28, 2020
Hopefully he can find a situation that enables him to do that.
Dwayne Haskins, whose Twitter account is private, takes “full responsibility for not meeting the standards of a NFL QB & will become a better man & player because of this experience.” pic.twitter.com/DvpJhswQU2
— Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) December 28, 2020
Hopefully he is well on his way
You can't get away with the stuff he pulled (strip clubs during COVID protocols) unless you are a Hall of Fame level talent.
AB gets away with his crap (or at least finds a team willing to give him a chance) because he was a superstar. As soon as he fades enough (maybe after this year), he'll be forgotten.
James Harden shows up a week late to NBA training camp, 25 pounds overweight, and then is on tape partying at a strip club after all that. He sits out one game and then drops 44 points and 17 assists his first game back. If Haskins had 10% of Harden's talent level, he'd still be a WFT member.
Not a shock. The guy was way overdrafted by Dan Snyder. Yes, Snyder drafted him. Overruled his GM.
Joe Burrow looking like the best Ohio St QB in the NFL since Tom Tupa!
@Boris posted:Everyone I’ve talked to says the same thing about Haskins: “He’s not a bad kid. He’s actually a good kid. He’s definitely talented. He needs to grow up. ... Needs to understand the mental side of the NFL quarterback.”
— Mike Jones (@ByMikeJones) December 28, 2020
Hopefully he can find a situation that enables him to do that.
This will help him grow up a bit. Very often young people don't realize there are consequences for their actions. Now he knows.
He'll learn and grow only if football is important to him. If not, he won't be learning or growing and won't make a team out of TC next year. Maybe it's a wake-up call, but last year he was caught taking selfies with fans and wasn't available to go into a game at the very end when they got the ball back. You'd think he would've been taken to the woodshed and learned from that. But this year, he's back doing more stoopid stuff. Either he's really, really, really immature or maybe it's substance abuse that hasn't come out yet. Either way, I wouldn't turn the keys to my three-year-old car to him much less a football team. Rivera was right to send him packing.
An NFL QB just can't pull this stuff. I get it that if he had played well, the other stuff might have been forgiven. I just can't remember an NFL QB with off-field problems that was actually playing well. Maybe Roethlisberger?
@CUPackFan posted:An NFL QB just can't pull this stuff. I get it that if he had played well, the other stuff might have been forgiven. I just can't remember an NFL QB with off-field problems that was actually playing well. Maybe Roethlisberger?
Favre when he lost his father is the only one I can think of, and maybe Big Ben.
I think we now know how much Urban Meyer coddled him at O$U. I wonder how much stuff he got away with there that was just swept under the rug.
Read something late last night that said one of the team guys in the room was going to throw up when Snyder was set on Haskins. All the football guys were dead set against him. This guy said he was so sick they were going to turn their team over to Haskins he was physically sick and had to leave the room. Owners should not get be in the draft room.
There’s nothing wrong with the owners sitting in the draft room but they should next to the water cooler like Bob Harlan did
Sounds like Haskins had similar red flags to Johnny Manziel, who MANY from the Brown's front office wanted nothing to do with.
Not saying this kid WILL be Johnny Z, but it's going to take a very specific HC and team to get this kid's head straight. And that Ron Rivera couldn't do it says a lot about Haskin's future.
Agree, some owners not only shouldn't be in a draft room, those same ones shouldn't be owning football franchises either.
These guys (of all stripes) have had everything handed to them their entire life, when they get in the NFL, they think it's just more of the same. Coast along on my talent. It's a lot more than that.
BOOGER is trending on Twitter (still from yesterday) - he turned it into an AA thing but it's a youth/immaturity thing much more than race.
Riverboat Ron cemented his power in that org by releasing him. Maybe Snyder finally does want to win.
Let football people make the football decisions. You handle money, Mr. owner & stay in your lane.
Double A questions booger
Since you feel this is especially a black problem, how are you going about helping Your people? Are you saying this for tv or are you reaching out to the young black men who are entering this business world. https://t.co/guSZAElqwn
— Adrian Amos (@_SmashAmos31) December 29, 2020
Ohio State QBs have been terrible in the pros for the last 40 years and it's not a small sample size.
https://thespun.com/more/top-s...e-haskins-joe-burrow
Haskins’ failure in D.C. is the latest example of former Ohio State quarterbacks struggling in the NFL. Here’s a list of some of the star quarterbacks the Buckeyes have had in the 21st century:
- Craig Krenzel
- Troy Smith
- Terrelle Pryor
- Braxton Miller
- J.T. Barrett
- Cardale Jones
- Dwayne Haskins
None of them went on to experience success at the NFL level. Pryor probably had the best individual season, but it came at wide receiver.
The message is....if you have a gazzillion good to great players at the other 21 positions this will tend to make the 22nd player look better. The OSU QB's have been really good in college with the help of a slew of 4 and 5 star players and good coaching. I would think that Justin Fields may (just his talent, not character) be a trap for the NFL too. He looks super most of the time but does he have "it".
Teams without quarterbacks need one, someone will take a shot.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Ohio State QBs have been terrible in the pros for the last 40 years and it's not a small sample size.
https://thespun.com/more/top-s...e-haskins-joe-burrow
Haskins’ failure in D.C. is the latest example of former Ohio State quarterbacks struggling in the NFL. Here’s a list of some of the star quarterbacks the Buckeyes have had in the 21st century:
- Craig Krenzel
- Troy Smith
- Terrelle Pryor
- Braxton Miller
- J.T. Barrett
- Cardale Jones
- Dwayne Haskins
None of them went on to experience success at the NFL level. Pryor probably had the best individual season, but it came at wide receiver.
You forgot "the greatest OSU QB of the all, Art Schlichter.
Cleared waivers cause nobody wanted to claim the contract...
Cleared waivers
He’ll get another chance, but the number of first-round QBs who bust with their original team and then find success elsewhere is very small. https://t.co/qZsftAPl7J
— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) December 29, 2020
@Boris posted:Cleared waivers
He’ll get another chance, but the number of first-round QBs who bust with their original team and then find success elsewhere is very small. https://t.co/qZsftAPl7J
— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) December 29, 2020
Jim Plunkett maybe? He wasn't awful with the Patriots, but won two Super Bowls with the Raiders.
Steve Young was a first round supplemental pick with the Bucs where he threw 11 TDs, 21 ints, and went 3-16 as a starter. He was a little better with the Niners.
Ryan Tanneyhill has been a lot better as a Titan than as a Dolphin.
Favre only threw 4 passes as a Falcon, but two were for interceptions and he had no completions for a QB rating of 0.
Haskins & Jamarcus Russell should open a strip club somewhere in Dade County called Busts. It might not work. But the stars are aligned.
@ChilliJon posted:Haskins & Jamarcus Russell should open a strip club somewhere in Dade County called Busts. It might not work. But the stars are aligned.
If Harden ends up in Miami, they'll make a killing.
Rams need a QBfor at least one game. Do it Rams, then Haskins can claim he played coast to coast.
LATimes interview with the new Rams QB former coach said this guy is gonna do it. AND supposedly Goff will be ready for the playoff game.
Fabulous article, linked to below. As one who lives outside DC I can tell you from observing them this season that Rivera and his WFT aren’t much different or better than the previous regimes here, just that Ron is getting a much better press.
https://www.headcoachranking.c...n-haskins-situation/
An excerpt:
”... The Haskins situation and related response is the moment that coaches generally talk about well into retirement. This is their Super Bowl. This is their opportunity to be heroic. This was an opportunity to be who they say they are, principled, resolute, and unwavering in their commitment to the values of the team.
Instead the Washington decision makers look weak.. The lesson learned in Washington is that you can get away with not being a team player if you are perceived as being someone that can win a game. In fact, in Washington you can crash the car, as you’ll get the keys and get to drive yet another car.
Rivera has received kudos for having the power to ask the owner for Haskins’ release. That didn’t take great courage at all. He cut someone from the roster that currently can’t compete in an NFL game and may never be able to. What would have been courageous and redemptive is if he again sat Haskins and made him “INACTIVE” on gameday. This might have saved the quarterback. That might have been Haskins’ wake-up call, that is to endure the slight humiliation of being stripped of captaincy and not being allowed to dress out with the team. But Rivera and WFT didn’t do that.
Instead, they misplaced their faith in Haskins, he played, let the team down yet again, acted up and was cut. Washington got rid of their issue. And Rivera gets applause for having taken a stand after having failed to take one all week...”
Of course someone has to bring race into the discussion. We can’t judge this guy on his actions alone.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Jim Plunkett maybe? He wasn't awful with the Patriots, but won two Super Bowls with the Raiders.
Steve Young was a first round supplemental pick with the Bucs where he threw 11 TDs, 21 ints, and went 3-16 as a starter. He was a little better with the Niners.
Ryan Tanneyhill has been a lot better as a Titan than as a Dolphin.
Favre only threw 4 passes as a Falcon, but two were for interceptions and he had no completions for a QB rating of 0.
But Favre was a 2nd round pick.
@PackerHawk posted:But Favre was a 2nd round pick.
Good point. The Packers gave up a first for him.
@ilcuqui posted:Fabulous article, linked to below. As one who lives outside DC I can tell you from observing them this season that Rivera and his WFT aren’t much different or better than the previous regimes here, just that Ron is getting a much better press.
https://www.headcoachranking.c...n-haskins-situation/
He has some good points. Why did they start and play Haskins for almost the whole game? He f'd up, wasn't a great QB to begin, and then they put everything in his hands? Even peewee coaches sit kids who violate minor rules, much less major ones like Haskins did. And from Heinicke's stats, he probably could have done a better job anyway. The whole thing makes Rivera look like a doofus: put up with his antics, prepare him to start, let him start, watch him fail and lose your game, cut him, brag about discipline. Doesn't say much about Rivera and his coaching staff to let that crap happen.
Good thread for this
A federal judge in Maryland has decided that the dispute between WFT owner Daniel Snyder and his limited partners regarding Snyder's selective exercise of first-refusal rights must be resolved via arbitration, not litigation. It's a win for Snyder and the NFL.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) December 30, 2020