Has his legacy been under appreciated?
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Ray was not as adept at setting screens.
Backup to Dave Cowens who was one of the more underrated forwards of that era even if he played for the punk ass dirty Celtics.
Cowens is number 31 per Simmons. This just in, Finkel is not in the Top 100. Neither is Mokeski although he is mentioned fondly.
The fact that Mokeski, Breuer, Fred Roberts, Krystkowiak, and Sikma were on the same team in 88-89 is amazing. This blog writer captured it perfectly in his post about the "Bucks White Stiff Hall of Fame."
http://www.christianschneiderb...eremony-oct-15-2009/
In the south wing, you’ll see an entire wall dedicated to the 1988-‘89 Bucks team, which will go down in history as the ’27 Yankees of inflexible honkies. This murderer’s row of pasty giants included Paul Mokeski, Jack Sikma, Randy Breuer, Larry Krystkowiak, and new import Fred Roberts. (Naturally, Roberts was drafted by the Bucks in 1982, but traded to the Spurs before he played a game in Milwaukee. Coming back home was clearly part of the Creator’s blueprint for the universe.) If you’re counting at home, that’s 35 feet of Grade A rigor mortis on one roster. A sight that will never be seen in the NBA again. The league hasn\’t seen that much stiffness since Shawn Kemp stopped fathering children on road trips.
@Pikes Peak posted:Cowens is number 31 per Simmons. This just in, Finkel is not in the Top 100. Neither is Mokeski although he is mentioned fondly.
Simmons is an acquired taste for many, but his Book on Basketball was a great read. His rankings skew towards Celtics players a little too much, but his reasoning is presented well. It will be interesting if and when he updates these ratings where Giannis goes and where he is likely to end up.
https://www.basketball-referen...simmons_pyramid.html
This list is from 2010, so LeBron is now #2 or #3 all-time, and players like Curry and Durant are at least top 20 now. It is also hard to know where to put guys like Chris Paul and James Harden.
I would guess there are 10 guys that Giannis isn't going to pass in these subjective rankings even with multiple additional rings and up to 15 All-star game appearances. Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Russell, Kobe, Duncan, and Curry would be that list. Curry is clearly top 10 now, but he might be top 2-3 in terms of impact on the game in general.
It's likely Giannis will get grouped with the next cohort in the 10s and low 20s: Jerry West, Shaq, Durant, Hakeem, Moses, Havlicek, Baylor, Dr. J, Pettit, Harden, Malone, Cousy, Garnett, Pippen, Robinson, Barkley, Pippen, Stockton, Isiah, Oscar Robertson, and Dirk.
@MichiganPacker posted:The fact that Mokeski, Breuer, Fred Roberts, Krystkowiak, and Sikma were on the same team in 88-89 is amazing. This blog writer captured it perfectly in his post about the "Bucks White Stiff Hall of Fame."
http://www.christianschneiderb...eremony-oct-15-2009/
In the south wing, you’ll see an entire wall dedicated to the 1988-‘89 Bucks team, which will go down in history as the ’27 Yankees of inflexible honkies. This murderer’s row of pasty giants included Paul Mokeski, Jack Sikma, Randy Breuer, Larry Krystkowiak, and new import Fred Roberts. (Naturally, Roberts was drafted by the Bucks in 1982, but traded to the Spurs before he played a game in Milwaukee. Coming back home was clearly part of the Creator’s blueprint for the universe.) If you’re counting at home, that’s 35 feet of Grade A rigor mortis on one roster. A sight that will never be seen in the NBA again. The league hasn\’t seen that much stiffness since Shawn Kemp stopped fathering children on road trips.
Fred Robert’s was actually quite athletic…I’d blown out my knee in soccer and wore a brace not unlike Krystokowiak’s…tough to be athletic with a polio brace on your leg from ankle to thigh.