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Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:

I must admit that at times I have wondered about Clay and HGH. However, I once read that he was reported to say something to the effect of "bring it on". It would sure shut up the snide jabs from other teams fans.

Er, not from me. Clay has a really good Heisenberg as his chemist.

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They can start with Seattle. The entire team. I don't know how accurate these HGH tests are though.

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Not all of them are that dumb, and even when they are, their teammates and agents probably won't be. There are plenty of them who are at the cutting edge with these things. There's a big industry of trainers and doctors who cozy up to pro (and college) athletes to help them get an "edge". It's ridiculous to imagine that they're going to put the genie back in the bottle with PEDs. Guys were using HGH back in the late 70s and 80s, we can rest assured that there are several alternatives that the league office hasn't even begun to consider yet.

Originally Posted by Boris:

       
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
I must admit that at times I have wondered about Clay and HGH. However, I once read that he was reported to say something to the effect of "bring it on". It would sure shut up the snide jabs from other teams fans.
Er, not from me. Clay has a really good Heisenberg as his chemist.
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[pedantic bastard mode]

Heisenberg was a physicist.

[/pedantic bastard mode]

(I miss the poster Benzene.)
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They can start with Seattle. The entire team. I don't know how accurate these HGH tests are though.
We don't know whether the Seahawks have any HGH in their system because we know too much about the HGH's momentum. 

More seriously, I thought the Seahawks were getting away with using Adderall, which is an amphetamine if I'm not mistaken.
Last edited by Fedya
Originally Posted by Packy:

Random testing?

 

How long does HGH stay in your system so it's detected by a test?

https://www.healthtap.com/topi...-stay-in-your-system

Apparently not long. 

It has a half life of a couple of hours in the body, so with a large dose maybe it's still detectable after a day or two.

So then you'd want to go out of town for the weekend and shut off your phone when you take it.

I'd be curious if they are testing for HGH directly or looking for a longer lasting metabolite.

Originally Posted by Boris:

       
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:

I must admit that at times I have wondered about Clay and HGH. However, I once read that he was reported to say something to the effect of "bring it on". It would sure shut up the snide jabs from other teams fans.

Er, not from me. Clay has a really good Heisenberg as his chemist.

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They can start with Seattle. The entire team. I don't know how accurate these HGH tests are though.


       


Heisenberg? LOL.

It's not just a guy here  there. It's the whole freaking league, and really, big time sports in general.
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

       

Were talking about the same collection of mensas that get liquored up and drive even though they could hire 24/7 drivers right? Pull up next to cops with a hydro bong in the passenger seat? 

 

I don't think we oughta go assuming these guys are one step ahead of the law. 


       


Really, it doesn't take a genius to beat the system. For one thing, the drug testing programs are a little disingenuous, outside of the Olympus and track and field, and all they have to do to beat it is follow a few simple instructions.
Originally Posted by Dr._Bob:

Something tells me Hawk will be the guy who reminds the league when they forget to do the test.

I  read that he is a "gym rat". My guess is that he knows about its use for some time. It must suck to see other players jump ahead of him with strength and speed possibly because of using PED's. Some bodybuilders once confided in me about the various PED's. I have no doubt that it happens in football, and I am not talking about Adderall.

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