Horse collar

I remember that call tdog and while correct the Packers defender didn't pull him all the way down, on the replay you can see him being pulled down from inside the jersey. And to the ref's, especially in pre-season where nothing counts, they will call that. I think they (refs) want to make players hyper aware of personal fouls like that and I think that was the case that night.

Bigger question for me is:

With Aaron Rodgers winning a SB including SB MVP, if/when he gets knocked in the head via helmet-to-helmet or another illegal blow to the head....

Will the ref's throw him a bone this season and actually call it? Has he earned the benefit of the doubt like TOG, Manning, Brady, Big Ben etc and will he get the calls he didn't get from 2007-2010?

Only when he learns to whine about everything, like P. Manning.

My biggest issue with the Horse Collar is the name Horse Collar. It's stupid and makes no sense. Is it called a Horse Collar becasue a jack@ss Cowboy started it?

If so then let's call it a Roy Wiillams and move on. At least that would make sense.

Personal Foul.... Roy Williams.... 15 Yards.....

Horse collar? Is that Shannon Sharpe's necklace or Elway's?

not a big deal but I'm here to admit I was... wrong.
Seifert posted this rule today in his article about Woodson - has more clarity than I was previously able to find about the horse collar.

In fact, here is how Section 2 of Rule 12 reads:

STRIKING, KICKING, OR KNEEING OPPONENT

Article 1 All players are prohibited from:

(a) striking with the fists;

(b) kicking or kneeing; or

(c) striking, swinging, or clubbing to the head, neck, or face with the heel, back, or side of the hand, wrist, arm, elbow, or clasped hands. See 12-2-3.

(d) grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down the runner. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.

Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.

Penalty: For fouls in a, b, c, and d: Loss of 15 yards. If any of the above acts is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant, the offender may be disqualified as long as the entire action is observed by the official(s).

quote:

the offender may be disqualified as long as the entire action is observed by the official(s).

And I think this is why Woodson wasn't ejected, the Official that threw the flag saw the Saints player continue to push Woodson after the whistle and saw Woodson react and then everything stopped.

that's the point Seifert made in his article. it's not req'd to throw a player out for a punch.

Without going too tutu, Half a yard for excessive creaming.

Oh my.

lmao.