How fast can we beat the SeaHawks.

Russell Wilson is better than Dan Marino.

 

Short Qb's will be all the rage is this years draft. 

How fast can we build a time machine and trade for Marshawn Lynch?!!?!?!?!!??!??!?!?!?

And once the time machine is done, go back and keep John Schneider.

I think you mean this, DH13:

Green Bay @ Seattle for the Thursday opener or do they come to Green Bay?

The Hags come to GB. They only play 2 playoff teams at home next year, the Saints and Panther. I put my money on the Saints to be the Hags kickoff partner even though they will not be very good next year.

Don't they play the 49ers at home, too? 

I think you forgot about the Whiners.

Packers getting healthy and a couple of players on defense they can beat anybody. Seattle included.

The Packers already beat Seattle in 2012.

As has been said before. alot of bills are coming to John Schneiders desk not the least of which is Russell Wilson who now can put SB winning QB on his resume.

 

Wilson wasn't going to be cheap to extend anyway but this win certainly raises his and quite a few others future contracts. They won't be able to keep them all.

From Bleacher Report back in December:

 

The Seahawks have a long list of players with expiring contracts and almost no salary-cap room for which to re-sign those players. This coming offseason will be a big test for general manager John Schneider and his staff.

 

This is where things begin to look ugly for the Seahawks in 2014. Despite having 18 current players, and one on injured reserve, that are set to become free agents, the Seahawks have just an estimated $8.7 million in projected cap room to try and replace those player

 

With the restricted free agents accounting for $5 million of that space, and with a first-round pick that will account for approximately $1.2 million against the cap, the Seahawks have very little cap room left to work with. 

 

And that is with a prediction of a moderate salary-cap increase. In the current "flat cap" era, there is no guarantee that the salary cap will increase by the same amount that it did before the current season. It is possible that the Seahawks will have even less room than what is projected here. 

 

Part of the problem is that the Seahawks "overspent" this season. The Seahawks rolled over approximately $13 million on cap space from 2012 and used that extra cap space to spend $10.5 million more than the league salary cap for this season. 

 

By rolling over just $2.5 million from this season into 2014, the Seahawks have set up a scenario for the team's total budget for 2014 that will actually be less than what they have spent in 2013.

 

Meh, so does every team. They'll likely let Bennett walk with replacements already in house unless he comes back for a good value once again, Breno's not a big money guy and Golden Tate isn't all that. McDaniel and Sherman (now elligible) will get deals and Browner lost a good deal of leverage with his suspension. Hauschka will get a solid kicker deal, which isn't big money either.

Hard to blame them, they got a superbowl out of it.  But if another team sold out for short term and didn't get it (seen that before), how does the fan base respond? 

 

Wait until next year, when Wilson goes from 12 bucks an hour to $20M per year.  It's not just about resigning those guys this year, it's also planning a year ahead so there isn't a total roster purge next year when they back up the Brink's truck for Wilson.

 

That's why I think their window is relatively short.  Same for the Whiners.  That extra $20M/year means that at least 5 or 6 other players will have to move on.  

This definitely will be a good test for Schneider and for the coaching staff. They will cut Sidney Rice as his cap number is outrageous and will open up about 6 million in cap space. I would expect some attempt to reduce Percy Harvin's cap number as it is absolutely ridiculous for the next few years. They will be hurting depth wise though if they can't re-sign some of their key players (Brandon Browner, Walter Thurmond, Pat McQuistan, Breno, Golden Taint, Michael Bennett, etc.). They seem to have a good coaching staff so they will get rookies ready to play, but they won't be nearly as stacked as they were this year. I also expect some moves will be made in preparation for Senecca Wilson's upcoming contract needs ,as 2014/2015 is the final year of his contract, and the upcoming contract needs of Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas. 

Yeah, 2016 could be a real biznitch for the Seahawks though I think they'll be okay for 2014 and probably '15 to make their runs.

The funny thing is Wilson didn't do diddly-poo in the Super Bowl.

 

Anyone of us could've QB'd that team. Denver completely self-destructed.

 

$20 million for Wilson. Love it!

 

1) Will Pete C keep telling his players to use HGH?

2) I think they will open in Seattle vs. the Niners

 

Thank god this season is over.

Wilson, Sherman, and Thomas are all up for new deals after next year along with a few other names everyone was aware of like Golden Tate. You can add SB MVP Malcom Smith to the list of guys looking for big money after 2014 as well. I'm sure Schneider was hoping a guy like Thomas or Wilson was named MVP yesterday. They were getting big money anyways.

Watch the Seahawks not even make the playoffs next year..

I know this isn't always the popular opinion, but who the hell cares. They just won the SB. Can't ever take that away. Just ask the Vikings.

4 teams that made the playoffs this year won't next year. My picks; San Diego, San Fran, Cinncy, and Carolina.

Speaking of Peter King, here's a gem from the same column today:

I’d be surprised if Ted Thompson doesn’t take a tackle with one of his first two picks in May.

I guess that's what you should expect from such an inveterate ass-kissing schmoozer.  Does he even have a clue about this team?  Lost all credibility as a football analyst years ago.

Seahags 9-2 favorites to win it again next season.  Packers are 16-1.  All odds can be found here:

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/03/s...ds-seattle-seahawks/

I really don't care about their cap room or how bad they'll get when they lose guys. In other words, I don't care about them "coming back to the rest of the teams" through attrition; I care more about the Packers leapfrogging them with talent, coaching and hard work. Same thing with the Whiners. Why wait for teams to fall? I'd rather look forward to attacking our problems and getting better.

The Niners, and the Panthers as well, could have won that game vs. the Broncos. Why? Defense and the ability to consistently pressure the opposing QB. The Packers? Doubtful as Manning would have picked them apart. That is the challenge to Ted Thompson. So far he has failed to build a defense that can put consistent pressure on the opposing QB, one guy is not the answer. So here's hoping there is someone on the roster who can step up, and Clay Matthews can stay healthy in 2014. What we saw was a dominant defense dismantle a record setting offense, while they played with an average QB and won easily.

 

I would not pay Wilson big money if I were them, keep that defense together and bring in another decent young QB, so when it comes time to pay Wilson they can say thanks, good luck wherever it is you sign. To me, Wilson can be replaced if they are smart, and they seem right now to be the smartest organization in the NFL. Can they remain so the next 5 years?

 

 

 

I just bet BK's house on the Jags. Thanks!

That's an interesting strategy.  How correct it is that that idea worked for SEA with Wilson depends on whether or not he is "just a guy" that is truly replaceable with another draft pick.  If he is more than that then it becomes a much bigger gamble.

 

It highlights an interesting contrast in roster-building philosophies.

A) Find a franchise QB, whom you have to pay big, then build the rest of the roster with mid-level guys and good depth.

B) Building a stronger overall roster around a mid-level QB who you pay less.

 

Everything you hear and read these days is that it's a passing league and you simply need an elite QB to compete for a Lombardi.  Is Wilson the cart or the horse?  Has he not had many elite-level performances because he is incapable or because he hasn't needed to?  It would be interesting to see him have to put up more than 21pts on a consistent basis, and in the playoffs.  The only time in the postseason where he was really "pushed" was vs. SF and he made some nice plays there.

The thing about Wilson is that he is that rare combination of an athletic playmaker outside of the pocket who isn't a turnover machine.  Much like Rodgers and Luck in that regard as opposed to Kaepernick and RG Me.  He'll never match the elite throwers but he can keep drives alive while minimizing mistakes.  Couple that with a defense that will punish you if you don't get turnovers and you've got a solid foundation.

In order for Seattle's defense to remain at a high level, you're talking about needing these 8 locked up, Thomas, Chancellor, Sherman, Avril, Bennett, Wagner, Smith, and Irvin. The cost each guy would see on the open market is $8, $8, $12, $5, $5, $6, $6, and $6 million respectively. That's on the conservative side. You can interchange both DT's and the other DB and still be a really, really good D. Lose any of those 8 or have a significant drop off in productivity at any one position and it weakens the chain. Those 8 guys are $60 million out of you're cap. which means this defense isn't staying together regardless of who's playing QB and why really good defenses over the past 25 get a few years to play together before being pulled apart.

I disagree. He didn't have an Aaron Rodgers type performance, but to say he didn't do anything in the game is wrong. 

 

He kept Seattle's first two possessions going with third down conversions:

 

3rd and 9 at Denver 30. (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short middle to J.Kearse to DEN 18 for 12 yards (M.Adams).
3rd and 7 at Seattle 31. (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short left to G.Tate ran ob at SEA 40 for 9 yards.
3rd and 5 at Denver 43. (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass deep left to D.Baldwin to DEN 6 for 37 yards (C.Bailey).

 

The defense won the game for Seattle, but Wilson was efficient, and compounded Denver's problems by keeping Manning off the field. 

 

He made another third down conversion in the third quarter:

 

3rd and 7 at Seattle 45. R.Wilson pass short right to L.Willson pushed ob at DEN 43 for 12 yards (M.Adams).

 

After that conversion came a 1 yard run by Lynch. Followed by:

 

2nd and 9 at the Denver 42. R.Wilson pass deep right to R.Lockette to DEN 23 for 19 yards (D.R-Cromartie).

1st and 10 at the Denver 23. (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short right to J.Kearse for 23 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

 

That drive basically ended any hopes Denver might have had of coming back, making it 36-0. If Wilson doesn't convert that third down, they punt. Denver scored on their possession. 29-8 with a quarter to go, and Denver has a chance to get back in it. 

Wilson completed 72% of his passes. He made no mistakes. He did what he needed to do, and the defense and special teams did the rest.

 

Forever Dorothy Wilson

 

 

Do you disagree with what I said, Satori?

I disagree with it. Wilson was not under any pressure to perform all game long.

 

He didn't have to do anything. Me or you could've QB'd that team yesterday & they still would've won due to Denver self-destructing.

 

I don't think I've ever seen a worse performance on that large of a stage.

 

1st play of the game & he snaps the ball over Peytons head?!?!  Good lord. It's the definition of choking

Wilson wasn't under any pressure to perform when the score was 2-0 Seattle? Or 5-0 Seattle? Or 8-0?

Denver was favored by 2 points to win the game. I don't recall what the over/under was, but Denver was expected to put up some points. I don't think anybody, not even the most optimistic Seahawks fan, could have predicted the Seahawks were going to win by 5 touchdowns. And Russell Wilson certainly didn't know the Broncos were going to implode in all three facets of the game. It's easy to look back now after the blowout win and say you or I could have been quarterback, and the Seahawks could have still won handily. 

 

Maybe people underestimated just how good Seattle's defense was. But thinking that the Broncos, the highest scoring team in NFL history, weren't going to at least make a game of it, is unrealistic. Even when the Broncos were down 15-0, I thought at some point Manning would get on track, and the offense would start putting up some points. And Wilson thought it, too, I guarantee it. He knew that Manning, and Demariyus Thomas, Wes Welker, Eric Decker, Julius Thomas and Knowshon Moreno could strike at any second. In fact, they said during the game that Denver had not gone two possessions in a row without scoring all year, including the playoffs.

 

To say that Wilson wasn't under pressure to perform...I just don't agree with it. 

Remember 3 weeks ago when Denver needed to convert a 3rd and 17 against a SD team that was just laying waste to Denver's D in the 4th quarter after Denver built a big lead and probably would have tied the game if that 3rd down wasn't converted?

My point is, Denver's regular season pretty much clouded everyone's perspective that they might not be a very good football team.

How many clutch throws on 3rd down did Wilson convert?   Plenty from what I remember. 

No picks and kept the chains moving and he had a couple of TDs as well.   Very efficient overall game for Wilson and since Lynch didn't do much I thought the Seattle QB played very well. 

People want to diss the guy but all he does is outplay just about everyone else and he wins over and over again.  He also doesn't make the stupid plays (see Kaeperdink or Manning last night)