How much for Matthews?

15 per?

That's very surprising. I would have thought Matthews deal would be a little less than Ware's 7 year/78 million deal and only be a little higher than LaMarr Woodley's 2011 6 year/61 million deal. The reason I compared CM3 to Woodley was that their situations are similar...similar numbers, accomplishments, etc. Ware was ahead at this point in his career, numbers wise, than Matthews is (by about 10+ sacks and 60+ tackles). That's not a negative on CM3, he's a game changer, but Ware has had an amazing career and should be the standard for how to gauge where a contract should be for 34 OLBs.

Ware signed his extension in 2009, so you know Matthews will get more.

I hate the idea of paying 2 players around $35 million a year, but there's not much the Packers can do. That's the ridiculous price of doing business in the NFL these days.

It's better to lock these guys up and have them on our team, than them being on another team, and they hit FA, and hoping that TT grossly overpays for them in FA.

Just out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see what CMIII and AR would get on the FA market? 5-10% more than what GB is offering?

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
And remember, it is about cash-flow and money in first 3 years.

This. Lock him up. In 3 years the cap will increase. Maybe you look at re-doing new deals. Keep him in GB and happy. Never have to worry about the motivated part.

He is worth it. Easily my favorite Packer, BTW.

i say lock 'em up too. neither deal will hit the total in years or dollars. contracts will be reworked and the cap will go up.

I wonder if this deal is "close" ala ARod?

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Originally posted by Goalline:
He is worth it. Easily my favorite Packer, BTW.

admit it, you love his hair

I laughed at Rodgers' comments on the America's Game broadcast when he said:

"I'm from Northern Cal and I act like it and Clay is from Southern Cal and he ACTS like it too"

And that cute butt. Am I rite?

I'd like him to be locked up, but wish they could do a deal based on the number of games he plays. With his hammy issues, I'm a tad hesitant to give him a whopper contract.

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Originally posted by heyward:
Ware signed his extension in 2009, so you know Matthews will get more.

I hate the idea of paying 2 players around $35 million a year, but there's not much the Packers can do. That's the ridiculous price of doing business in the NFL these days.

Except the salary cap in 2009 was $123 million. In 2013 it is...$123 million.

I think his demand would bust the salary cap all by itself.

Matthews Deal Nearer than Rodgers

Maybe $13 million per year, maybe more.

I think everyone on the planet knows that AR isn't going anywhere. But CMIII, I'm sure would love to stay, but I don't think it's clear cut that he doesn't move on. So, it makes sense to get CMIII's done, then get back to AR, and tell AR and his agent, look in order for the Packers to stay competitive this is what we can do (20+ M)/year? Whatever. Then if he feels he's being disrespected and wants to move on, more power to him, and fans will hate him like they do Brent, albeit for different reasons.

It's been stated before: Rodgers, Matthews, and Raji have the same agent.

doesn't it make sense for the Packers to wait until after the 4/20 deadline for RFA's before signing Matthews and Rodgers ?

That way they have max cap flexibility if somebody comes after Sam Shields

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
It's been stated before: Rodgers, Matthews, and Raji have the same agent.

That agent must do pretty well.

We should let ARod and CM3 hit the road. Think of all the free agents we could sign then.

Or we could do what TT is doing, sign our own star players and support them as best he can, mainly through the draft. Really, does the part of the mind that says we have to pay cm and arod communicate with the part that demands free agents galore?

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Originally posted by Fandame:
I'd like him to be locked up, but wish they could do a deal based on the number of games he plays. With his hammy issues, I'm a tad hesitant to give him a whopper contract.

I've wondered if TT isn't thinking the same thing. I don't know that he'd have any leverage because I figure CMIII would break the bank as a free agent. I just hope it doesn't come down to anything close to that.

I also think Clay would have played in some of those games he missed had the games meant a little more. Not that regular season games don't mean anything, but making sure he was ready for playoff time could have persuaded the Packers to be fairly conservative with his injuries.

Over the past few seasons Thompson (and Ball) have structured contracts so that in-season bonuses are tied to game(s) played. Available and accountable.

Woodson for example, if he were still on the roster, would have a $1mm Game bonus paid out for 2013 in 1/16 amounts for each game played. Play 8 and he'd only get $.5mm.

30+% of your cap space tied up in 2 players?

What's the contract status of:

Raji.
Jones.
Finley


Are those the only 3 notable players that aren't locked up for the future?

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
30+% of your cap space tied up in 2 players?

For 2013 the cap $$ is ~ $123mm (IIRC).

Jared Allen $17.1mm cap hit
Adrian Peterson $13.9mm cap hit

25+% ($31mm) of your cap on two players?

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
30+% of your cap space tied up in 2 players?

What's the contract status of:

Raji.
Jones.
Finley


Are those the only 3 notable players that aren't locked up for the future?

If 1% of your cap space is tied up on a QB named Ponder then your GM is an idiot.

Packers are able to see the problems they have and do what is necessary to fix it. the Packers defense had problems with the pistol offense so they sent their defensive coaches down to Texas to see what they needed to do to be better. Maybe next year, the Vikings ownership can send the Vikings GM and coaches to Green Bay so they can finally learn how to properly build a team. I am sure that Ted Thompson would love to teach you guys a few pointers.....

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
30+% of your cap space tied up in 2 players?

For 2013 the cap $$ is ~ $123mm (IIRC).

Jared Allen $17.1mm cap hit
Adrian Peterson $13.9mm cap hit

25+% ($31mm) of your cap on two players?

Too much in my opinion. I really hope they look at extending Jared Allen and getting that cap number down. Like to see that happen and give some of that money to bring Winfield back for another year or two.

Peterson deserves his for this year. Not Allen though.

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Originally posted by Floridarob:
If 1% of your cap space is tied up on a QB named Ponder then your GM is an idiot.

2013 cap $123mm

QB - Ponder, Christian - 2013 cap hit $1.3mm