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This is the same scheme that was behind the No. 1 offense in the league last year, so it can work.  It has worked.  The problem is that MM & Co. should have made some adjustments, but they failed to do so.  Adjustments were necessary for a couple obvious reasons.

First, we don't have the level of talent that we had last year.  I don't think that a single player on offense has improved on their play from last year.  There has been regression across the board.  Part of that falls on TT for failing to assemble a better roster; part of that falls on the coaching staff for failing to develop the players they were given.  Nevertheless, the change in talent level should have resulted in a change in scheme to account for the issues.  It never happened.    

Second, defense have adjusted the way they approach us, but MM & Co. have failed to respond with their own adjustments.  The Packers are frequently seeing Cover Zero - something I would have never thought with Rodgers under center.  How can we not take advantage of that?  

 

The loss of Jordy doesn't give the coaching staff and front office a pass.  I've seen too many other teams adjust and succeed after suffering equal losses.  

That said, I'm not ready to give up on our coaches and executives.  We've had too much success under them.  Heck, the regular season was a nightmare, and we still finished 10-6 and made the playoffs.  Hopefully this season serves as a lesson learned, and they are better prepared next season.  

I think there is something to be said for this whole AVP (QB/WR Coach), and EB, TC, and MM all Offensive coordinators, play callers.  We're all monday morning QBs, but I think the changes that were made last year, seem to be having a negative effect.  I like the thought process of changing roles (AVP) and keeping thing fresh (QB/WR joint meetings), but there also has to be a if it's not broke don't fix it mentality.  And right now, it seems like MM is caught in the wash of both of those philosophies.  

Are there any other teams in the league that have one coach handling both quarterbacks and wide receivers?  I just looked at about a dozen different team websites and didn't find one where one coach had both responsibilities.  If anyone knows of one (or more) let us know...I'd be interested if the Packers are the only team that does this.  There was even one team that had two coaches for quarterbacks (Chiefs...the QB coach and then an assistant QB coach).

If Van Pelt really does coach both (and who knows for sure between McCarthy, Clements, Bennett, Van Pelt), I wonder what the logic was behind that since there doesn't seem to be many (if any) other teams that do it.  Did they figure that Rodgers is just so great that he doesn't need coaching anymore?

Chiefs - David Culley - Assistant Head Coach/Wide Receivers Coach

Easy to miss with all the ridiculous "assistant head coach" "passing game coordinator" types of titles.

I see the Chiefs also employ kick-ass Childress as a "spread game analysis/special projects" coach.  Maybe McCarthy should add one or two of those to the mix...that will fix it!

Boris posted:

You can't tell me Abby or Janis cannot run the route Monty ran up the middle of the field for a TD.

I can't imagine the offense staying this stale in the playoffs. I'm guessing he's trying to keep things off tape. It's really the only logical explanation.

Boss, why did you not look me up when you visited the Emerald Triangle?  I would have bought you a beer.

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I think it's fair to say the injuries on the injury report aren't the only injuries.  After the season we'll get a better view of how badly this thing was held together with spit and duck tape.  If 12 has nerve/rotator/god knows what that's affecting his accuracy it explains everything that's gone wrong with the season.  Guy doesn't go from the most accurate QB I've ever seen play to what's been on the field the last few weeks out of nowhere.  

The offensive line has been gutting it out as well, imo.  They haven't all been healthy since training camp opened.  Just the way some years go.  

I actually thought having the QB/WR in the same meeting is a good idea.  Then the QB knows what the WR's are seeing, and vice versa.  But maybe there are too many in the meeting, that not enough is getting done?  

 

I agree with Titm, though, once the season is over, it ill be interesting to see how many dudes are under going the knife, I bet it's alot.  

TwinRig posted:

Good look at sloppy routes

If Rodgers flattens at the goal line he is wide open

MM says it's the players not the scheme or play design. 

Play call here is good if Rodgers flattens that out for a TD. So Mike is right, it's the players. 

Of course, we're assuming Rodgers is getting the best coaching possible. I mean, there's no way AVP isn't coaching Rodgers on how to bend that route based on the coverage, right?

Herschel posted:

No team is truly healthy this time of year, nor have they been since about week 1. Guys are playing hurt all over the league. 

While that's true, not all injuries are the same nor do they affect all teams the same way.  Each season tells a story of it's own and the injuries present unique challenges in how each team has to overcome them.  If we're looking at offensive lineman a strained bicep is going to require different adjustment  than a hurt knee or ankle. 

All the movements and techniques are so specific for each position that different injuries are going to affect the players in different ways.  If Cobb's shoulder never fully healed is he able to punch his way out of a jam at the line?  Does he have full mobility to grab passes over his head?  If Davante's ankle never fully healed is he able to cut the way he needs to or jump explosively to get a 50/50 ball?  

Without the trainer's reports it's difficult to know what these guys can and can't do on the field and how limited they really are.   
 

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