In my opinion, yes. Last night I watched the playoff game with Seattle from last season and he just shredded them and I think why aren't the talking heads on NFL Network putting him in the Top 5 currently playiing. What he can do is sick, both touchdowns were all on him.
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No.
Fuck off.
He really is a darn good WR now. Maybe he’s not the best WR in the NFL, but the list of guys that are better is short. He worked his ass off to be this good as he really wasn’t a natural in terms of having great hands.
He rarely drops balls now and this has really allowed him to step into an elite class of WR. His quickness to get separation from a DB is about as good as it gets.
I don't think he's underrated. Gets a lot of respect around the league.
To me it's silly to get wrapped up in the "is he a top 5 WR" or WR stats. Nobody wins those arguments....or in my case gives a flying fuck what talking heads say.
Megatron and Julio Jones were/are roundly accepted as top 5 every year at their possession, what did it get them?
Tae is a great player, who does a lot of great things without anyone else around him to help. He draws the best cover guys every week because anyone can cover MVS and WW Jesus...and he still gets his catches.
By NFL people, no.
By a lot of fans, yes. It's mostly about the counting stats.
In 2016, he played all 16 games but ended up at 997 yards.
Two of the last 3 years he's had seasons where he was also under 1,000 yards. In 2015, he played 14 games and had 885 yards. Last year he played 12 games and had 997 yards.
If he has 10-15 more receptions and another 200 yards in those last 2 years, he's looking at three consecutive ~1100-1200 yard years and averages close to 100 catches a year.
Right now for a casual fan, he's had one year (111 catches for 1386 yards and 13 TDs in 2018) where he got to the Julio Jones type numbers. That makes a difference in perceptions.
Where this perception really matters is when it's time to vote for Canton. He has years of work to do, but he holds control of this.
He is good, real good.
@Pikes Peak posted:He is good, real good.
I would say he's probably the second most talented WR they've had in the last 30 years. I think he's a bigger, more athletic version of Greg Jennings. He's much more elusive than Jordy Nelson ever was (although Jordy had great straightline speed once he kicked it into gear). Let's have some fun with this. Here's my rankings of the best Packers WRs in the modern era (since 1970).
1. James Lofton (NFL HOF-level)
2. Sterling Sharpe (NFL HOF-level)
The rest of these guys are all Packer HOF level, but not at the Lofton/Sharpe level. If Lofton played today, he'd be Julio Jones. He had Lynn Dickey for a portion of his time here, but otherwise had to play on lousy teams with crappy QBs. Sharpe was well on his way to the NFL HOF before his neck injury.
The rest of these guys were great Packers, but not at the Lofton/Sharpe level.
3. Davante Adams
4. Greg Jennings
5. Jordy Nelson
6. Donald Driver
7. Robert Brooks - pre-injury
8. Antonio Freeman
9. Randall Cobb
10. Javon Walker
Much of the problem is that when you have an Aaron Rodgers throwing to you, you'll never get the credit you deserve as a WR. Rodgers puts the ball in such a good spot that he makes the WR's job look awfully easy a lot of the time. Adams is an excellent receiver, no doubt about it. Do I have the faith that week after week he could do what Julio does? No, I don't think so, because Julio has such great body control. Adams gets a great release, runs good routes, and has very good hands; he's able to get that little bit of separation that Rodgers needs. With a lesser QB, I think Adams' production falls off. Look how good Rodgers even makes a WR look when he's not really open. On one sideline TD last year to Lizard, Rodgers dropped that ball where only a couple QBs could. Excellent catch, but a great throw.
Don't get me wrong, Adams is an excellent receiver. But...
I seem to recall Adams doing well when Rodgers was injured....
I say Adams is better than any other WR, in our division. Around the League, Adams is respected by his peers. Keep him in GB and let's rack up the TDs, YAC, and watch those chains move towards our end zone. Let everyone else worry about how good he is. We GBP fans know how good he is. GO PACK, GO!!!
Adams may not be Julio Jones but he is in the next tier. There aren't any other Julio Jones's in the NFL right now either so that's not really a fair comparison. Thomas in NOS tops the stats but part of that is Payton/Brees and the rest of that O. The only thing Adams doesn't have is top end speed. Other than anomalous body size, he's got everything else and is as good or better than his peers. As far as AR making him look good to some degree, Adams and other receivers we've seen over the years have also made some very tough catches that lesser WR's would not have made. It goes both ways.
I think some people forget how good Jennings was but the tipping point would be comparing what he had around him vs what Adams had last year. Jennings was also knows as a terrific route runner but Adams seems to be getting more recognition for that around the league. Ankles Adams is breaking everyone else's ankles.
I agree that Adams is oh-so-close to that top five, no doubt. The way he's able to break the ankles of the DB is what helps give him that split second of separation he needs since he doesn't have the top-end speed of some other guys.
Posted this on the game thread pluses and minuses
https://packerswire.usatoday.c...last-six-games-2020/
Davante Adams was nearly unstoppable to end the 2019 season, and he picked up right where he left off to start 2020.
The Green Bay Packers receiver has produced ridiculous numbers over his last six games.
Dating back to Week 15 of last season and including both the postseason and Sunday’s win in the season opener, Adams has caught 58 passes for 766 yards and six touchdowns over his last six games.
His per-game averages during the stretch: 9.7 catches, 127.7 receiving yards and 1 touchdown. Extrapolated over a 16-game season: 154 catches, 2,042 yards and 16 touchdowns.
On Sunday, Adams tied a team record with 14 catches. He also caught two touchdown passes. Aaron Rodgers’ passer rating when targeting him was 144.1.
Over the six-game stretch, Adams caught at least seven passes in all six games, and he had five games with over 100 receiving yards and four games with a touchdown catch.
Adam's also isn't a drama queen or an attention whore. Right or wrong, Diva's get attention (see Antonio Brown). And that get's you noticed in the NFL.
Agree with others, around the NFL, Corner's and Safeties know Adams all too well. And most, if not all, hate having to play against him.
Heard AR say he thinks he's on the same wavelength with Adams like he was with Jordy.
Davante Adams, IS Packer People. 
@MichiganPacker2 posted:I would say he's probably the second most talented WR they've had in the last 30 years. Let's have some fun with this. Here's my rankings of the best Packers WRs in the modern era (since 1970).
I guess Jeff Query, Sanjay Beach, Kittrick Taylor, Bill Schroeder, Robert Ferguson, Corey Bradford and Jeff Janis all suck.
Mr. Adams can play WR on my team every damn time.
We need to revisit this...
Let's not go nuts after last night.
A couple DB's were legit but Adams was beating a D that was decimated by Covid/Injury
Davante is on a historic run of game starting in December of last year. This isn't something new. No one has really slowed him down other than the Bucs and that was with no one on the other side that needed to be respected. When Lazard returns Adams is going to look even better since Lazard will actually draw attention.
If you had to double Adams or Lazard, who would you choose? Adams is poison and every team knows it. I think Lazard goes off once he's healthy while Adams' coverage increases, with targets and catches decreasing.
Here's a story on the issue.
#Packers WR Davante Adams is first in the NFL in receptions per game (8.8), receiving yards per game (112.5), receiving touchdowns per game (1.33) and receiving first downs per game (6.0).
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) November 9, 2020
He has Rodgers throwing to him, and he will always be underrated because of that. If he had a QB who missed him by 3 feet and made him dive all over the place and he caught them, he would be hailed as great. Witness how OBJ was crowned just because he made an acrobatic one-handed catch with today's sticky gloves on a bad throw that now all sorts of guys make even in college. But a QB like Rodgers or Brady can make catches look so ordinary because the ball is where it's supposed to be, where it has to be on a difficult throw, and they put it where it's impossible for other guys to put it. What does separate Adams is how darn quick his feet are to get him off the line. His jab step(s) and fakes are so fast and so hard and so convincing that CBs get their feet tied up in knots trying to stay with him and that gives him the separation he needs to be open.
I don't think much good can come from participating in the other currently active thread regarding Packer receivers. But before we throw dirt on dudes like MVS and ESB, a couple of minutes reading Davante Adams threads from 2015-2016 might be time well spent. One of the geniuses on here actually said Davante was "Ed West with mittens."
I am cautiously optimistic with MVS. ESB has proven NOTHIN! Don't know why he is even on the roster.
MVS is a downfield guy who just doesn't want to mix it up or get anywhere near the middle of the field. His favorite catches to make are when he is wide open. If he is going to be tackled or it's a contested ball or he has to sacrifice his body to make the catch, it's going into the incomplete column.
ESB has looked terrible, and he probably will find himself on a different team or on STs only next year.
Production is always skewable. You look at Julian Edelman’s production, you would think he’s a HOF talent. But we all know if we were to put him on the Browns, or Jags, it’s a different story. Adams does benefit from his team’s QB and now a competent offensive scheme.
Adams on the field passes the eye test. He gets open as well or better than almost every top WR. He’s a lot like Antonio Brown at his peak- just knows how to beat his man, and understands the game so you can’t just scheme him out of the game by sending a high safety his way or put him in zone. Their overall statistics in their 25-28 year old seasons are comparable:
- Brown: average 7.6 catches, 100.7 yards/game
- Adams: average 6.8 catches, 83.9 yards/game
Note that Adams is still in the middle of his 28 year old season, so these aren’t final. If Adams continues his current pace, they’ll look even closer.
But one thing that does get glossed over with Adams is health (the most important ability is availability). He missed 4 games last year. 2 already this year. He’s also exited games that aren’t counted there. His best season in ‘18 he went for 111-1386-13 in 15 games, and that’s the only season he’s eclipsed 1000 yards.
He’s in that “really good, could be great” category to me. He’s got to do it over more time, more games, and in the biggest moments.
One thing rarely mentioned with Adams is his vertical....nearly 40 inches coming out of college. That in addition to crisp route-running, strong work habits, brains, and a great ability to find the ball and adjust his body to it, and you have one of the top WRs in the game.
YA putting the hex on DA
@FLPACKER posted:One thing rarely mentioned with Adams is his vertical....nearly 40 inches coming out of college. That in addition to crisp route-running, strong work habits, brains, and a great ability to find the ball and adjust his body to it, and you have one of the top WRs in the game.
His vertical was very evident in his TD catch yesterday.
What I love about that TD catch was the rope-a-dope element, half speed, going through the motions on a running play, then suddenly headed to the corner at full speed.
