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An article in SI today is pretty critical of Jason Kidd. Andrew Sharp (SI columnist) uses the word baffling several times to describe Kidd's decisions and schemes.

The intentionally missing a free throw so the 4 point play doesn't tie it strategy is mentioned. I'm trying to figure out how telling your players to not touch anyone and concede a half court 3 pointer to win the game by 1 as the clock runs out doesn't occur to Jason Kidd.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/12...jason-kidd-cavaliers

 

Kevin 🤷🏾‍♂️ @klew24

 Jason Kidd told his player to miss a free throw up 3 on purpose. He told him that bc he was scared of a 4 point play. With 1.9 left... And the other team had no timeouts.. Wut
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Also, the article basically implies that Giannis may be enough to keep Jason Kidd around a long time. Giannis is like having Aaron Rodgers. As long as he plays, you can't really win less than 40-45 games a year. Although the Jason Kidd comparison to MM is not fair to MM - who I still think is a top 10 NFL coach who just needs a DC that has adjusted to the NFL game of this century. Jason Kidd is more like Ray Rhodes - completely overmatched but with the equivalent of Brett Favre in 1999 to bail him out enough to make him look competent.

Would go well in the Fire Jason Kidd Thread. 

I wonder what ownership really thinks of Kidd now that they've seen him in action for an extended period.  Evidence  is mounting with his inexplicable lineups, bush league defensive scheme, and game time decisions. Saw the intentional free throw miss live....I make no claims to be a basketball wiz, but not wanting to go up by 4 with 1.9 seconds left had me stammering.  Would have been funny if Middleton would have ignored him like Giannis did last year. 

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Brainwashed Boris posted:

Kidd needs to go. Any one of us could coach that team once Parker comes back.

They're going to be a handful for any team in the East once Parker returns.

Assuming they don't keep playing a defensive scheme that seems to be designed to let the opposing team shoot as many wide open corner 3s as possible. 

Giannis a a DPOY candidate if he played in a different system.  Brogdon and Middleton are good defenders. Bledsoe is a very good on ball defender. Henson is  a good help defender (even if he struggles with big post guys). Just like the Packers defense, the parts are greater than the sum. 

Does anyone think the Bucks are a fringe playoff team if Steve Kerr is HC? Or would they be top 2-3 in the East?

Bucks are #1 in defending fast break points. 

Time for Kidd to start earning his paycheck. 

Jason Kidd understands more than most what being an NBA players is about. He has a lot of credibility in that regard- and you can definitely see he wields that with these young players. 

But he has absolutely has no idea how to coach. Strategically he’s completely overmatched. He doesn’t understand how to prepare his team for their opponent. 

Steve Kerr doesn’t understand the game any better than Kidd does, but that doesn’t mean he is on equal footing as a coach. And unfortunately for the Bucks, Kidd didn’t have some time under one of the game’s greatest coaches to learn how...

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Another night against a bad team, another loss. The Bulls shoot 20 more shots in the game than the Bucks because they gave up 15 offensive boards (to 4) and turned the ball over 20 Times (to 7). 

Post game Kidd says they don’t know how to rebound and that’s just who they are. Nice... 

Caught this gem from cbssports:

Milwaukee coach Jason Kidd said expectations were ''a little bit too high'' for his team, which has lost five of seven.

''At the end of the day, we're a young team,'' Kidd said. ''This is going to be a team that's going to go up and down.''

 

Man, he has GOT to go.

December was the month they were supposed to make hay and they are basically .500 with several losses against bad teams including 2 against the crap Bulls at home. 

Their next 7 games are against really good opponents so either they will step forward and play better or take a dump which is possible given the level of competiton. 

They have to make a move to shore up the rebounding: 

I haven't been an NBA fan for many, many years.  But I keep a distant eye on the Bucks.  They have floundered for season after season. 

Could never understand why they hired Kidd in the first place???   Then this season was supposed to be a breakout year.  But not so.  Listening to the callers on WTMJ last week, I am not surprised that Kidd is gone.  Just hoping they find a decent guy to step in an get this team back to respectable b-ball and winning.

Bill Simmons on twitter floating Jeff Van Gundy as a replacement. 

Bill Simmons Retweeted The Ringer

What a moment for and Bucks Twitter. And what a potential landing spot for Jeff Van Gundy who absolutely 1 million percent wants to coach again. This is the highest ceiling job in the NBA other than GSW/Boston/Philly/Houston.

Many NBA offenses are designed to put great shooters in position to make corner 3s (the shortest 3 point shot). Kidd's defensive scheme's weakness was that if it didn't create a turnover off the initial trap then it lead to a lot of wide open corner 3s. It never made a lot of sense. 

Just change the defensive scheme and that should be worth an extra 4-5 wins over the course of a year. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to adjust to the new schemes. 

Hey Bucks 

I know Edens and Lasry are NY guys as is Feigen and Kidd (Nets) 

Now Jeff Van Gundy?  JFC 

**** your New York omertà bull****.  I don't want retreads and New York basketball hasn't been relevant for 20+ years.  

Quit trying to bring in anyone that has a NY connection.  Hire the most qualified people!! 

 

 

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They need someone young, energetic, can relate to the players (Hey, That's Jason Kidd) & oh yeah, can actually COACH! with proper rotation & rest for the stars

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Many NBA offenses are designed to put great shooters in position to make corner 3s (the shortest 3 point shot). Kidd's defensive scheme's weakness was that if it didn't create a turnover off the initial trap then it lead to a lot of wide open corner 3s. It never made a lot of sense. 

Just change the defensive scheme and that should be worth an extra 4-5 wins over the course of a year. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to adjust to the new schemes. 

As it was being explained on the Bucks in Six podcast, it isn’t Kidd’s defense. It’s Sweeney’s. If this is true, Kidd ain’t the only problem. 2 assistants were already dumped today- we’ll see what else is coming. 

But its Kidd’s offense. We’ll see what Prouty does... the Suns’ Gs suck, and they couldn’t make a shot. They attacked over and over, got to the line 37 times. If Brogdon goes on a tear the next few games, we’ll maybe get a glimpse of more of the issues with Kidd’s offense. 

Music City posted:

It’ll be interesting to see how much dirt surfaces. Some already starting...

http://journaltimes.com/print_...d0-156c242d960c.html

Man, there is some damning stuff in there.  Such as:

I remember one game at the Bradley Center where I asked an NBA advance scout where he would rank Kidd among the 30 head coaches in the NBA. The scout said Kidd was the worst.

When I asked the same question of another NBA official a few weeks later, noting that an advance scout regarded Kidd as the worst coach in the league, the official vehemently disagreed. When I asked him which coaches were worse than Kidd, he waited a few seconds before naming just one other coach.

One disconnect is Giannis apparently wanting to keep Kidd as coach while the article refers to Kidd not getting along with certain players, such as Jabari Parker.  I don't get that.

Most of the NBA players are still very, very young. Liking a coach has little to do about the coaches ability to make them better or get them to a title. Conversely, disliking a coach has little to do about the coaches ability to make them better or get them to a title.

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