Jimmy Graham

noiropusMember

Did anyone catch Jimmy Graham against the Houston defense yesterday? Media folks are discussing whether he has bulked up, which he apparently won't comment on.

The guy is a pure beast on the field. He looks more dominant than any other receiver / TE. Frankly, I think the Saints lucked out with him.

Questions:

1. Is he, or can he be, a more dominant player than calvin johnson?
2. Does his superior skillset propel the saints to the top in terms of overall wide receiver / te corps, particularly since finley (sadly) seems to not have not quite elite hands?

8/26/121:03 PM

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PakrzFREEZE!

While he's never tested positive for PED's, clearly he's using them and should be stipped of his pro bowl status and banned from the NFL for life. Same goes for Gronkowski. Those two guys are just too dominant in their sport.

8/26/121:13 PM

PackLandVAMember

Even though he hasn't been accused, I think Jimmy Graham has given up trying to defend himself. It just worth the $$ anymore.

8/26/121:21 PM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

quote:
Originally posted by noiropus:
2. Does his superior skillset propel the saints to the top in terms of overall wide receiver / te corps

Not if we sign Terrell!

8/26/121:31 PM

Rusty42 inch pythons brother!

Only thing that sticks out about Graham to me is the time he clearly got concussed and went back in anyway. I can't believe that Goodell never investigated that one.

8/26/121:33 PM

PackerBackerDPMMember

What else should we have expected from the team that gave us bounty gate. Textbook example of what happens to the brain after getting a concussion. Football gods/karma evened it out though with the 9ners wining in the end and the saints brass getting theirs.

8/26/122:17 PM

justanotherpackerfanMember

I see what you guys are doing here....you're making posts on this thread similar to the ones on the Armstrong thread.

Can I play too?

Boy, I hope Stretch Graham is OK.

8/26/122:35 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

THEY LEGITIMATELY FAKED THE MOON LANDING

8/26/123:02 PM

ammoCheese Master

My heart goes out to Moonlight Graham. "Win one for me will you someday boys!"

8/26/124:20 PM

derpsMember

75% of NFL players take performance enhancmentment drugs. Mostly peptides, which are not illegal, but will be soon.

I have been posting on Times Four for years while on steroids. I just know how to mask it.

8/26/125:59 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

Are Graham Crackers racist?

8/26/128:48 PM

RatPackMember

Depends whether you put the white stuff next to the graham and then the dark stuff.

8/26/128:58 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

quote:
Originally posted by derps:
75% of NFL players take performance enhancmentment drugs. Mostly peptides, which are not illegal, but will be soon.

quote:
After the Green Bay Packers' Jan. 9 playoff win against the Philadelphia Eagles, Pepper Burruss, the team's head trainer, wove through the locker room carrying a piece of paper with a list of names. When he reached Scott Wells, the team's starting center, he stopped. "I'll see you tomorrow," Mr. Burruss said.

Mr. Wells instantly knew what the trainer meant and was mildly annoyed. "I just had one," he said. Before moving on, Mr. Burruss told Mr. Wells he should be ready "between 10 and two."

When the trainer left, Mr. Wells turned to a reporter and shrugged. "Drug test," he said

The advance notice appears to violate the NFL's Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances, which states that all players who are subjected to in-season drug testing will be notified "on the day of the test."

"It's obviously concerning," said Travis Tygart, head of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. "The world knows you can't give advanced notice for testing for it to be effective."

The NFL said the Packers had not violated any NFL rules by notifying Mr. Wells of his test in advance. A league spokesman said these advance notifications were a "limited exception" to the league's normal testing procedure

Anti-doping experts say that if athletes know they won't be tested on the day of competition and will be warned about an upcoming test a day after the event, it makes it easier for them to cheat. For instance, an NFL player who has a Sunday game could take the endurance-boosting drug EPO on Saturday night, knowing all traces would have left his system in time for a Monday morning drug test.

Experts also say there are some powerful stimulants players could take on the morning of a game with no fear of failing a test the next day. continue

I think there are very few guys in the league who don't use something. The league knows it, all the players know it, and I'd imagine all the teams encourage it to varying degrees. The money on the line keeps everyone quiet and the small window for players to cash in on their opportunity makes it inevitable.

8/26/1210:37 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

This from a guy with the UK ADA.

quote:

"As soon as you start making it predictable, or providing advanced notice, which makes it predictable, you start to allow the small minority of athletes to change their behavior to get around the system,"

I think this is a bit naive.

8/27/128:18 AM

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