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I’m putting this in the Packer Forum because it relates to how I receive my Packer news. While the Journal-Sentinel has devolved into a pathetically woke, biased and low quality rag that doesn’t even attempt to hide its bias’, it still does an excellent job with sports coverage, in particular for someone like me who is not local.

For that reason I have a digital subscription. I noted recently it had crept up to $14/mo. They should pay ME that  amount to have to be subjected to the likes of  the late Eugene Kane and Daniel Bice, among others, but I digress.

Called and got hooked up at $1.99 /month for a year and the rep implied I could call again next year and keep it in that range.

Anyone else got any good subscription  hacks? I already negotiate annually with Sirius XM, Comcast cable and Direct TV when I had it.

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Whew, I thought hackers stole my identity from WSJ and put it for sale on the dark web (cue the jokes...).

No hack to share but I've done what you described, call and ask. I've never had to get irate or threaten to cancel if I don't get x, y and z. if you say you are going to cancel due to price they will usually offer you something to stay, if not a discount per se then added features/benefits.

So political lean aside, if you subscribe to the New York Times digital subscription, like I want to say it's intro is 1.99 per month, it includes a full subscription to The Athletic. And that's a pretty good sports site with very good writers and stats, info that's hard to get for the NFL, NBA, etc . Plus, you get the NY times cooking stuff, recipes, videos, so if you are a "foodie" it's a nice package deal.

They also include like The Variety, games and other shit.   

@packerboi posted:

if you subscribe to the New York Times digital subscription, like I want to say it's intro is 1.99 per month, it includes a full subscription to The Athletic. And that's a pretty good sports site with very good writers and stats, info that's hard to get for the NFL,

The Athletic offers some pretty good writers too, so now you don't have to poison your brain with Michael the Doosh  Rodney anymore. 

@GreenBayLA posted:

Whew, I thought hackers stole my identity from WSJ and put it for sale on the dark web (cue the jokes...).

No hack to share but I've done what you described, call and ask. I've never had to get irate or threaten to cancel if I don't get x, y and z. if you say you are going to cancel due to price they will usually offer you something to stay, if not a discount per se then added features/benefits.

Just realized my thread title might lead to confusion. Sorry!

Editor George Stanley and I exchange e-mails now and then. I tell him how terribly slanted and biased his paper is and he basically says “Fuck off, we don’t need your business.”

Pretty brilliant  business mind that guy has. 😀 Nothing like alienating half of your potential client-base.

@Blair Kiel posted:

But for the new price of $1.99./month, I’ll go down on Nancy Pelosi.

Like, present day Nancy?? I mean, you gotta get in the "way back machine" at least 12-15 years, no?

I feel like you didn't necessarily mean that literally.

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@Blair Kiel posted:

Editor George Stanley and I exchange e-mails now and then. I tell him how terribly slanted and biased his paper is and he basically says “Fuck off, we don’t need your business.”

Pretty brilliant  business mind that guy has. 😀 Nothing like alienating half of your potential client-base.

The daily in Rochester is also Gannett and is also ridiculously slanted and biased. It's also become riddled with errors and shitty writing as they have cut the editorial staff so deeply. I wrote an email noting how biased it had become and the publisher, Michael Killian, answered with a very snotty, condescending note. I used the Google Machine to find emails for every high ranking Gannett exec that i could and copied them when i replied that his treatment of customers was the reason his and other dailies were dying. I got an apology the next day.

@RochNyFan posted:

The daily in Rochester is also Gannett and is also ridiculously slanted and biased. It's also become riddled with errors and shitty writing as they have cut the editorial staff so deeply. I wrote an email noting how biased it had become and the publisher, Michael Killian, answered with a very snotty, condescending note. I used the Google Machine to find emails for every high ranking Gannett exec that i could and copied them when i replied that his treatment of customers was the reason his and other dailies were dying. I got an apology the next day.

The entire Gannett empire is a smoldering crater and deservedly so.  Reading an occasional article online shows juvenile writing by what they call reporters but write as if they were in 6th grade.

As an aside, a terrific professor of organic chemistry at Columbia U. was fired because he was too hard on the students, who complained to the Dean, etc. The now-fired professor said many students lack the ability to learn.

But some of those students will get a medical degree down the road and as the medical professionals admit, those "Doctors"  will need a decade of remedial training to bring them up to snuff (if that is even possible). Seriously. But equity, baby.

gannet owned mjs too “woke”?  lol.

Most of my listening is podcasts from various international broadcasters (think BBC, but a bunch of different countries), and while there's definitely party political bias, there's even more what I'd call "bias by Rolodex", in that some organizations and views show up all the time and others not at all.  Also listen for which people the interviewers listen to respectfully and which ones the interviewers interrupt.

I'm behind on the documentary podcasts, so it was only a few months back that I listened to a BBC "Assignment" episode on the housing crunch in Ireland.  The young lady narrator didn't interview anyone eho actually builds houses, mind you, but found a fellow journalist to interview as well as an "artist" who had come from another EU country and makes "sustainable" furniture out of recycled wood.  And that artist's African immigrant friend running a cooperative to make the upholstery.  It just fit the stereotype so well.

I'm behind on the documentary podcasts, so it was only a few months back that I listened to a BBC "Assignment" episode on the housing crunch in Ireland.

I meant to add that this originally aired just before the pandemic; that's how far behind I am on the documentaries.

@D J posted:

As an aside, a terrific professor of organic chemistry at Columbia U. was fired because he was too hard on the students, who complained to the Dean, etc. The now-fired professor said many students lack the ability to learn.

"Students get respected professor fired for holding them to a high standard.  America's woke youth no longer poses the grit to keep America on top"

"Ineffective professor refuses to adjust to modern scientific knowledge regarding how student learn.  College looks to replace him with more effective teachers known to advance learning in students"

"Overprotective parents unwilling to let children experience natural consequences make students get professor fired for low marks on tests"

"Out of touch Dean fires professor under pressure to recruit more students.  Low grades lead to lower GPA than competing programs in other schools."

"Community outraged over story they only have 10% of the information too"

"Community indifferent to story moments after it comes out"

"Guy on message board has it right"   

@Blair Kiel posted:
Called and got hooked up at $1.99 /month for a year and the rep implied I could call again next year and keep it in that range.

Funny, as soon as I go to the JS site I get an offer for $1 for a 6 month subscription.  Not $1/month, $1 for 6 months.  There's your hack.

In any case, if you want to know why journalism is in the toilet, it's because people are only willing to pay a buck for 6 months worth of content.  Everyone wants things for free and then complains about the quality.

I believe that is a price only available to new subscribers.

Also, journalism doesn’t suck because people are cheap, journalism sucks because partisan hacks killed it.



"Ineffective professor refuses to adjust to modern scientific knowledge regarding how student learn.  College looks to replace him with more effective teachers known to advance learning in students"

Right there is the nub of the bullshit and of the problem. 'Modern scientific knowledge regarding how student [sic] learn. 

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