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ChilliJon posted:

NFC foe loss. All I care about. 

This.

Sitting in the bar next to my hotel in Gettysburg, which was interesting and another story, Touchtunes finally went silent.  With a mix of reasonable Donkey and Punthers fans left, I put on Slayer "Raining Blood" after a mix of horrid other misc music, just before the kick was to happen.

Oh the shank was epic.   The lone Panther fan looked at me in dismay... "why'd you do that, I really love Slayer"

But to me, it was Art.

F sham and his antics.  F the donkeys.  

Priority was; NFC 0-1.

SLAYER!

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Blair Kiel posted:

...and Cam got the shcht kicked out of him physically...ain't no way he survives 16 games that way.

How many D's are as good as the Bronco's? At least he didn't have an attempted kick of a fumble like he had in the SB. 

Just think, if that was Rodgers as the recipient of the helmet to helmet & they called "off-setting" penalties....

#NFLFU

I'm just about done with football

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If a team's independent neurologist feels a player may have suffered a concussion they are required to immediately initiate protocol testing which normally 8-12 minutes

If you are trying to protect a lead with time running out and you can afford a 15 yard penalty to put a starting QB on the bench for testing do you ask one of your players to take a shot? 

Here's the kicker. If the NFL follows the letter of the law they will fine Carolina for NOT taking Cam out to initiate testing. The guy was on all fours trying to pull himself together after taking a shot right to his head. if you dont initiate testing after that, when exactly do you? 

Yeah, I don't know how the NFL can leave it up to teams to initiate the protocol.  As much as I would hate it happening to Rodgers during a close game, my feeling of resistance would be shared by those on the team and is exactly why it has to be an objective decision by an impartial physician if the goal is truly to protect the health of players.

If a player goes out due to concussion (or just the protocol tests), the player who initiated the contact and potential concussion should have to sit as well.

If a defender knocks himself out of a game, well, he's a dum-ass for leading with his big head.

Dr._Bob posted:

Well, that would be a way to avoid the exaggerated soccer-style reaction to hits in hopes of a penalty if there is a risk of initiating the concussion protocol.

that's a very good point, don't the concussion protocol involes taking the player completely out for the rest of the game?

Boris posted:

Just think, if that was Rodgers as the recipient of the helmet to helmet & they called "off-setting" penalties....

#NFLFU

I'm just about done with football

No idea what you're talking about...

If a player goes out due to concussion (or just the protocol tests), the player who initiated the contact and potential concussion should have to sit as well.

Teams will have lesser WRs go up against star DBs and fake concussion symptons.

(I suppose that's a way to get Janis! on another team's #1.)

NFL has no clue what it's doing regarding concussions.  The Marshall and Stewart hits should have resulted in ejections.  I haven't seen blatant targeting of the head like that in a long time.  But nothing will happen b/c the league is more concerned about appearing to to prevent concussions than actually preventing them purely for legal reasons.  

As for the concussion protocol.........I believe there is an exemption for star players at the end of the close game.  It's a sliding scale: the more important the player and timing of the game, the more he has to be concussed to be taken off the field.  Case Keenum should have been removed since he sucks.  Cam would have needed to be unconscious for him to be removed.  

Hungry5 posted:

If a player goes out due to concussion (or just the protocol tests), the player who initiated the contact and potential concussion should have to sit as well.

If a defender knocks himself out of a game, well, he's a dum-ass for leading with his big head.

I can live with this for helmet to helmet hits.  Not for any potential concussion situations though (as shown above, the ground caused the concussion). 

The last thing I want to see is more legislation. Everything ultimately winds up being a judgement call by the refs, so I think the best thing is to take it out of their hands. Perhaps make personal fouls subject to replay?
In any case, what happened last night can't (shouldn't) happen again. Sometimes helmet-to-helmet hits just happen, but it's pretty obvious when a player launches himself and is leading with his helmet. If the refs don't want to call it, let replay do it.

Yes EKB, helmet to helmet. A solid clean football hit to the chest (a de-cleater) and the player gets concussed when they hit the ground is different... it's a violent game.

You what's gonna happen this Sunday ?

The refs are gonna call everything and the message boards will light up with pissed off fans that who's team lost a game because a defenders's pinkie looked like it may have grazed a facemask. Theater of the absurd

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