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About all I need to know about the film maker:

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In 1992, I was blessed to have gotten some last-minute tickets to the Cincinnati Bengal game, and it was a beautiful autumn day. Like everyone else in the stadium that day, we were mesmerized by a young quarterback who had already been billed as "the quarterback of the future", who willed a last-second victory on the strength of his arm. Brett Favre was born that day as a Packer, and I was a fervent fan from that day forward.


Funny. I was a fervent fan before TOG got here. And I'm a fervent fan after he left.

Little desire to see this other then I'm bored off my ass, flipping through the channels, there's nothing else on, and I'm out of liquor.
Funny... I was a fan before Lombardi got here, although that pre-Lombardi decade would test anyone's fervency.

I was also as anti-Favre as anyone after he went to the Vikings but I for one am certainly willing to forgive. In fact I don't even think about it much any more. I feel most fans would be more or less this way, although most would realize that even if the hatchet were buried, the relationship would never be what it would have been without the Minny episode.

I would hope they would hold the number-retiring day soon. Do it on MNF. Let Brett be preceded on the field by Aaron and then Bart. Have Harlan there, along with, of course, TT and MM. Maybe Wolf. Holmgren almost certainly unavailable. Let Bart do a lot of the talking. Screw the corporate top-down protocol.

I feel the sight of Rodgers with Brett and Bart together would bring to mind Olympians on the stand only please, no one of them should be any higher than another or anythin like that.

What a night that could be as far as enhancing the Packers' image goes. Could also help encourage FA's to want to come here. Holding a grudge won't.

Frankly, I'm proud of the Green Bay organization as well as the team. They have been a class act for a long time. And, frankly, I am proud of our fans and especially the fact that people from other teams' cities say the GB fans treated them well, win or lose. A class act, too. No Philly here.

Whatever one's personal feelings, Brett is part of Green Bay's legacy; he will be a HOF'er and is one of the game's all-time greats.

I wish we'd do it, do it right and do it this year. Do it like adults.
I'll only watch it if they do a re-enactment of the screaming match between Brent and McCarthy before they traded him.

I only wonder who is going to play the role of local pedophile Brad Childress? Stanley Tucci?
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Originally posted by packerboi:
About all I need to know about the film maker:

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In 1992, I was blessed to have gotten some last-minute tickets to the Cincinnati Bengal game, and it was a beautiful autumn day. Like everyone else in the stadium that day, we were mesmerized by a young quarterback who had already been billed as "the quarterback of the future", who willed a last-second victory on the strength of his arm. Brett Favre was born that day as a Packer, and I was a fervent fan from that day forward.


Funny. I was a fervent fan before TOG got here. And I'm a fervent fan after he left.

Little desire to see this other then I'm bored off my ass, flipping through the channels, there's nothing else on, and I'm out of liquor.


I don't know where you found that quote. But if this is about the Michael Neelson that made the film, he was 5 years old when he was there at the Cincinnati game. Pretty fair for a 5 year old to have his first Lambeau experience of any kind, shape his fandom....but especially one that ended in that fashion and began the career that Brett Favre had.

Michael Neelson is 25 years old
Hey everyone! I'm thrilled to see you've begun a conversation about my film, "Last Day at Lambeau". Just wanted to correct a couple things:

1. The words packerboi quoted are from a CheeseheadTV.com editorial written about my film, not by me. My first game was not Favre's game against the Bengals - it was much later and I don't remember it. I'd be curious to find out where the age cutoff to be old enough to make this film is for you, packerboi. 30? 35?

2. I lived the Favre divorce first hand as well, Tdog. I'm a born and bred Wisconsinite and Packers fan. My film has no connection to Hollywood nor Bollywood. It's a local story told by the fans for the fans.

I hope everyone will give the film a chance. Everyone who has seen it thus far has really liked it. We're early in the process so we only have five reviews written as of the moment, four of which are posted on the website with the fifth to follow as soon as I find time to post it.

Thanks again for discussing the film and letting me be a part of it! : )

Michael Neelsen
Writer/Director, "Last Day at Lambeau"
You wanna put this film together, knock yerself out. You wanna know what people think ? Then be prepared to hear what people think and don't come in here and dismiss those opinions.

Don't expect a warm welcome and don't expect others to see it your way.

Green Bay Packer fans weren't clamoring for yet another story on the tired topic - that's your interpretation and going by the responses here and elsewhere - you were dead wrong.

In the words of Mike McCarthy, "we've moved on"
If this film is posted as a youtube video, I may give it a chance some evening. Even as a diehard Packer fan, I'm not terribly interested in the story itself. Like FF, I think there will be day where Favre is welcomed by the majority. I don't see him taking the field with Thompson, ever. The drama of Favre is done, and while I enjoyed every minute of watching him in Green and Gold, he put himself above the team and we were lucky to have a GM and Coach who wouldn't stand for it.

Congrats Mike for getting a film viewed at the festival, but get used to people not always loving your material. While you may feel "everyone" who has seen it so far really liked it, I'm guessing that may be a skewed perspective.
Death by a thousand paper cuts. Choke after choke after choke. This story, like Brent, is dead to me. No reason to go grave-robbing. The guy has every right to put out his film, obviously. Everyone else has every right to either want to see it or not.
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Originally posted by Satori:
You wanna put this film together, knock yerself out. You wanna know what people think ? Then be prepared to hear what people think and don't come in here and dismiss those opinions.

Don't expect a warm welcome and don't expect others to see it your way.

Green Bay Packer fans weren't clamoring for yet another story on the tired topic - that's your interpretation and going by the responses here and elsewhere - you were dead wrong.

In the words of Mike McCarthy, "we've moved on"


So you're not gonna watch it?
I look forward to seeing it. I have alot of great memories of TOG and it was sad to watch the long painful end to his playing for the Packers and his career. I think the story is interesting and if done well could put things inlerspective. I don't understand the hostility towards the film before it has even been released.
Does the film end with MM, TT, and Aaron Rodgers hoisting the Lombardi trophy? That is the perfect ending to the story.

Personally, I sided with the Packers when Favre tried to come back and I still side with them today.
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Originally posted by GratefulPack:
I look forward to seeing it. I have alot of great memories of TOG and it was sad to watch the long painful end to his playing for the Packers and his career. I think the story is interesting and if done well could put things inlerspective. I don't understand the hostility towards the film before it has even been released.


Don't confuse hostility with cynicism. I for one don't need a documentary to put things into perspective for me. I also am sure - and this is somewhat to the filmmaker's credit for savvy positioning - that there are gobs of money to be made off of the drooling, shrieking idiots who were outed during the Great Monkey Poop Fight of 2008 - at least from those who haven't already moved onto the next shiny thing/team. I don't plan on watching it, but I am interested to see how it does and how it's generally received.
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Originally posted by JJSD: I for one don't need a documentary to put things into perspective for me.


Me thinks Mr. Neelsen didn't do this to satisfy certain members of X4. Even though we die hard Packers fans got much than our fill of that drama, there still is a whole world out there that most likely hasn't.

Just last night I watched the 30 for 30 "Bartman" doc and it was super interesting. However, I bet if I was a Cubs fan, it would have been the same old same old and a part of history I'd rather not revisit.

The Favre/Pack drama most likely is one for the ages and seems to be a perfect topic for a sports doc. Good luck to Mr. Neelsen and hopefully he can put some dough into his pocket with it.
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Originally posted by JJSD:
I also am sure - and this is somewhat to the filmmaker's credit for savvy positioning - that there are gobs of money to be made off of the drooling, shrieking idiots who were outed during the Great Monkey Poop Fight of 2008.....


Bolded part is my emphasis, but I'd be shocked if there is a lot of money to be made for this documentary. Time will tell. Probably didn't cost much to make.

I'm interested in the film, but it is probably a decade plus too early. I think more candid conversation from all sides happens when Favre is long retired, and McCarthy, TT and Murphy are too. Even former teammates....guys on the team at the time. A-Rod, etc. I thought the Gretzky trade film from ESPN's 30 for 30 was interesting, and there are some similarities to this story. But the main players (the Great One, Plockington, the head coach) all were a part of the documentary.

This one probably has more of a "June 17, 1994" documentary feel, where it's recording the events and emotions that were around.
I wasn't aware I was coming in here and dismissing opinions, Satori. I saw that a quote was incorrectly attributed to me and that someone was calling this a Hollywood film when I made it in Wisconsin. You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

Again, I hope people give the film a chance. I'm not making a dime off this film - its a passion project because I'm a Packers fan.

See it, don't see it. But I'm going to correct factual innacuracies. You would too if you were in my position.

Michael Neelsen
Writer/Director, "Last Day at Lambeau"

P.S. Thanks for the warm welcome!
Welcome aboard, Michael.

As you can tell, this particular subject is still an open wound at TimesFour... and I'm sure for a lot of other people as well.

Looking forward to seeing your film... but I may have to wait a bit. Still a little early for me.
Hey Michael good luck on your venture and kudos to you for coming here and enlightening us on the film.

I was wondering what type of "Train " you used in the film.

Does the film end with berts final INT at Lambeau? Or did he have one as drama queen when he returned a few years after he choked in the NFCC game.Hey didnt he throw some INT's against the Saints in the NFCC game in 2009.

Maybe you should make a movie about all the playoff INT's bert threw in the last ten years of his illustious career. Anything about berts skills as a phone camera photographer? Or is that not rated for family viewing.
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Originally posted by Michael Neelsen:
I wasn't aware I was coming in here and dismissing opinions, Satori.



You were being dismissive of packerboi's opinion and that's my job around here - so you can understand my taking issue with it.

Good luck with your new film, I wish you all the best. Cool
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I find this funny- guy puts out a movie from the fan's perspective on the Favre debacle, and gets chided for it. More judge and jury behavior.

Hey Coach, go F yourself... (just getting this in early)
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Originally posted by Music City:
I find this funny predictable - guy puts out a movie from the fan's perspective on the Favre debacle, and gets chided for it. More judge and jury behavior.

Hey Coach, go F yourself fly a kite ... (just getting this in early)


fixed this for you.

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