Lions Week

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A look ahead to this weeks Lions game:

Running in neutral:

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- It happened again on Sunday against Carolina, and as much as the Panthers' defense had a lot to do with it, there is reason to be concerned about Detroit's run game right now.

A season after both Reggie Bush and Joique Bell both rushed for over 500 yards -- and Bush had more than 1,000 yards rushing -- the Lions appear to be stuck in neutral rushing the ball. This is especially true early in games.

In the opener, the Lions had 15 yards on 13 carries in the first half. Against Carolina on Sunday, the Lions had 29 yards on 12 carries -- once again struggling to move the ball on the ground in the first half. It has turned the Lions at least somewhat one-dimensional early, which could be an issue if they can't rectify it.

"We have to be more effective running the ball, yes definitely, 100 percent, because the run and the pass go hand-in-hand," Bush said. "If your run game is not effective, then it is going to affect the pass. We need to do a better job as running backs and as a team, too, just run the ball better."

So far, the Lions have averaged 73 yards rushing a game -- 28th in the NFL heading into the Sunday night game. The 3.04 yards per carry is 29th in the league. It's only been two games, but neither Bell (87 yards) nor Bush (41 yards) has hit over 100 yards for the season yet.

Kicking concerns:

That should be concerning for an offense that wants balance both in who it is throwing to and at least a little bit more in how well they run the ball.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Detroit Lions might have a kicking conundrum for the second straight season.

Rookie Nate Freese, who won the job during the preseason, missed two more field goals Sunday. He is now 2 of 5 on the season and his job could in a little bit of peril.

“We’re not going to make any rash decisions now five minutes after the game’s over,” Lions coach Jim Caldwell said. “We certainly want to take a look at all of our options and see where we’d like to go from here.”

Injuries an issue at Corner:

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Detroit Lions have lost a starting cornerback for the second straight week - and Nevin Lawson might be out for a long time.
Lions coach Jim Caldwell said Lawson dislocated his left foot during the third quarter helping on punt return coverage and was immediately carted off the field. Caldwell said he was in surgery already following the Lions' 24-7 loss to Carolina.
"We're praying for the young man," Caldwell said.

Caldwell said the team will wait for the prognosis following surgery before making any other decisions on him. The Lions do not have their injured reserve/designated to return tag left this season because the team used it on rookie linebacker Kyle Van Noy before the first game of the season.
Lawson had been put in the starting lineup this week to replace Bill Bentley, who was placed on injured reserve after tearing his ACL on Monday against the New York Giants. The Lions promoted Nate Ness from the practice squad to replace Bentley.

If Lawson is out for an extended period of time, the Lions have three healthy cornerbacks: Rashean Mathis, Darius Slay and Cassius Vaughn.

The Lions will be very tough at home. Yesterday, Carolina took away Tate and it slowed down their offense quite a bit. Doubled CJ and the run game went nowhere. Still, with that D line I am really hoping Bulaga is back. Sherrod indoors on turf/fake grass is rather concerning. On the flip side, looks like the Lions will have major issues at CB and their kicker is off to a pretty bad start.

This is going to be a close game. IMO, the Packers are going to need to rack up >35 points. Perhaps with that injured secondary, it's doable.

9/15/147:53 AM

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FedyaMember

For starters, the Packers need not to bog down in the red zone.

9/15/148:12 AM

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GB also needs to find a way to get their TE's in that RZ. It's the one big thing they missed last year without TGIF and they miss this season so far without him. At 6'5, Bostick physically is probably the closest thing they have.

He played on ST's yesterday but was not out there otherwise. Hopefully that changes this week

9/15/148:58 AM

Ghost of LambeauMember

I will be at the game - thanks to a cousin. I am looking forward to it.

There are a lot of things that need to improve in GB. I am not sure where to start. I am just hoping that our ability to play "real" football will come out next week. That somehow, the nightmare of a defense that we have seen the first 2 games will turn into this run stuffing, pass snuffing machine.

I just woke up from the weekend and read about the Jets game. I now have a headache. Back to real life.

Disclaimer: The word "real" is not intended to be taken literally - with or without water.

9/15/1412:05 PM

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9/15/1412:16 PM

BrainDedMember

If Bulaga is a no go they have to give Sherrod help from the get go. Please, for the love of god, no more hoping for the best and then adjusting. Put it in the F'n plan from the start.

9/15/1412:21 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

Bet the over....They can't make it high enough.

The Lions run game will get back on track this week.

The Packers will win or lose this game with how the offense plays.

I'm hopeful the Packer defense can get some gifted turnovers. Joique Bell fumbled vs. the Panthers.

9/15/143:53 PM

ilcuquiTHE F*** WITH FASHION

Sounds like Mulumba is done for the season.

@jasonjwilde: McCarthy says Mulumba suffered significant knee injury. "It didn't look good during the game and it doesn't sound very good (now)."

Next man up, Jayrone.

Meanwhile, on Hyde:

@TyDunne: Micah Hyde says his knee injury was more of a scare than anything. Expects to go Sunday in Detroit.

@TyDunne: On Hyde, it's a bruise. Icing it to take down swelling.

9/15/144:27 PM

Rusty42 inch pythons brother!

I predict the Packers will either win or lose this game.

9/15/144:36 PM

PakrzFREEZE!

Sucks for Mulumba.... Great news on Hyde though.

9/15/144:47 PM

IowacheeseKeen Insight

I would like to see Janis - Ms. Jackson if you're nasty on returns.

9/15/144:52 PM

Fond Du ArrigoNostradamus

Originally Posted by Pakrz:

Sucks for Mulumba.... Great news on Hyde though.

I refuse to fall for this bull****.

9/15/144:53 PM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

I'm not mentally prepared to watch this defense apply zero pressure on 3rd and long knowing Jayrone Elliott is on the bench.

It was a much simpler time knowing he was in street clothes.

9/15/145:10 PM

BrainDedMember

Originally Posted by Iowacheese:

I would like to see Janis - Ms. Jackson if you're nasty on returns.

Is he even active on game days? I assume so, but haven't noticed him on any ST units.

9/15/145:16 PM

Fond Du ArrigoNostradamus

He's been inactive both games

9/15/145:20 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

It's the Packer way....Keep using DuJuan Harris on KOR. 8 yards deep in the endzone & getting tackled at the 12. It's a perfect way to start our drives & give the poor Lion defense some much needed help

9/15/146:53 PM

EsoxMember

Janis is a potential play maker - it is time! Love to see him on the KRs.

9/15/147:08 PM

RoyalWulffMember

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

I'm not mentally prepared to watch this defense apply zero pressure on 3rd and long knowing Jayrone Elliott is on the bench.

It was a much simpler time knowing he was in street clothes.

YES! I want this to be Jayrone's party! Look out NFL; Jayrone is being unleashed!

9/15/147:58 PM

BrakMember

Will be very, very interesting to see what we do defensively against them. Understand that Carolina, even without the apparent whack job that is Greg Hardy, is a top-notch defensive group. That unit is the class of the league right now. Not only did they keep Calvin Johnson in check, they also negated the running game of the Lions, and kept Stafford under a great deal of pressure.

Will be a great barometer of where the Packers are right now on defense.

9/15/148:16 PM

TschmackMember

Detroit has had a ton of injuries issues and once again it looks like their defense is absolute garbage.

However, they can still score a lot of points and they are playing at home. The Loins will be amped to play GB and as we all know how important divisional games are.

9/16/145:08 AM

HerschelMember

Originally Posted by cuqui:

Sounds like Mulumba is done for the season.

FTFY, it's a tough league for marginal players.

9/16/146:30 AM

ammoCheese Master

Bush would disagree.

9/16/146:40 AM

lovepackMember

At least TOG is gone, so it's not an instant loss. Should be a good game.

9/16/147:09 AM

kramerMember

I'll be at the game too. I agree that they can't make the over high enough for this game...Lions DBs are not great and there are injuries. I'll believe in the Packer D when they show something for a whole game. Could be a "last team to have the ball" kind of game. I am enjoying Lions fans finding out what it's like to NOT have an elite kicker. If it comes down to a Lions FG attempt of greater than 35 yards, Packers are probably in good shape.

9/16/149:48 AM

Satori"...going where the climate suits my clothes"

Originally Posted by Brak:

Will be a great barometer of where the Packers are right now on defense.

Yup, and we'll get a new barometer each week as the players and coaches get better at some of the new wrinkles. Leroy Butler suggested they should turn the corner about week 7/8 this season when they can stop thinking so much and just fly.

9/16/142:06 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

How was the game? Enjoyable? Any good stories?

9/16/142:23 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Originally Posted by Tschmack:

Detroit has had a ton of injuries issues and once again it looks like their defense is absolute garbage.

Secondary? Yes, especially now with significant injuries to their corners.

DL? No. That's still a hell of a group and they gave Scam Newton a ton of pressure. If Sherrod is out there, Rodgers will be running for his life. Really REALLY hoping it's Bulaga that can go.

Detoilet bringing in several veteran kickers this week for tryouts. Their rookie kicker is on pretty thin ice.

9/16/142:58 PM

FedyaMember

Flip Linsley and Sitton, and have Rodgers receive the snap from under LG, thereby keeping Sherrod further away from the ball.

Of course, that's probably highly illegal under the illegal formation rules or something.

9/16/143:33 PM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

The two guy's that make Detoits D better than it should be are Levy and Tulloch. Those two cover a ridiculous amount of real estate. Neither is great but both cover the run and pass very well.

9/16/143:46 PM

BrainDedMember

Originally Posted by Fedya:

Nope.. Perfectly legal as long as you have a total of 7 on the LOS. The players who are on the ends, are eligible receivers.

9/16/143:57 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

But they have to report as eligible or it's a penalty.

9/16/143:58 PM

BrainDedMember

Depends on their number. The ends are eligible by default. Typically this is your WR's in a base offense and why your slot WR starts a bit back from the LOS.

9/16/144:01 PM

FedyaMember

I was thinking you'd have to put two players to the left of the LT or something, since in theory the person to the left of the snapper wouldn't be the left tackle.

9/16/144:25 PM

BrainDedMember

Nope. You could have the tackle snap the ball as long as 7, and no more, are on the LOS.

The Jets basically had a guard snap the ball last weak against us. They moved their LT to the right side and sat a TE close to the Guard and on the LOS. The TE was the last player on the LOS on the left side, so even though he is basically playing tackle, he is an eligible receiver.

The LT who moved over to the right sides was off the LOS, but not eligible because of his number. (unless he reports)

9/16/146:27 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

If the LT moved to the right side and was off the LOS and didn't report, that's a penalty.

9/16/146:58 PM

ammoCheese Master

I also think there has to be a minimum number of guys on each side of the ball snapper. Like at least 2. I know in college games I've seen some weird stuff like 3 guys and the QB and the rest of the line off to one side.

9/16/148:09 PM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

This is starting to read like a McCarthy / Campen strategery session.

9/16/148:11 PM

PackLandVAMember

I don't want to see the Packers get behind early. Getting behind at home is bad enough. But the Lions are a decent team and if the crowd gets into it, I can see the "Packer wheels" start to come off....especially on the O-line (i.e. - false starts and holding calls).

9/16/149:07 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

I understand if a guy wants to put up an electric fence to keep his dog in the yard. I'm going to guess that it's probably not the brightest idea for DuJuan Harris to post a video of his dog's reaction when he accidentally had the thing set too high. Things can get out of hand real quick on the internet.

@Ol_sLy_Foxx
Well at least we know it works...........for now lol instagram.com/p/tBiHlsgMxa/

9/16/149:25 PM

BrainDedMember

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

If the LT moved to the right side and was off the LOS and didn't report, that's a penalty.

Under what rule? Nothing I know of says you need x amont of players on each side of the ball.

He did line up on the right side, not motioned over, but lined up.

9/16/149:36 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

They do have to be on the line of scrimmage, yeah?

9/16/149:41 PM

PackyMember

Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.

But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!

9/16/149:42 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

BrainDed

you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty

9/16/1410:11 PM

BrainDedMember

7 players need to be on LOS. Doesn't matter who. The 2 players on the end are eligible by default unless wearing a wrong number jersey. (Split end)

You can have the guard or tackle snap the ball all day long if you wanted to.

H5.. The jets lined up there LT on the right side of the RT. The tight end on left side was essentially the split end as we was the end and wearing the right number, thus eligible.

9/16/1410:22 PM

BrainDedMember

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

BrainDed

you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty

No it's not, as long as you have 7 on the line.

9/16/1410:23 PM

BrainDedMember

Think of those weird formations some teams use for punts were half the team is lined up away from the punter.. It doesn't matter. Illegal formation is based on the number of players on LOS, not where on LOS.

9/16/1410:26 PM

YooperPackfanMember

I don't what all the worry with Sherrod is all about, last year Buck Cherry got schooled by Ziggy Ansah don't forget

9/16/1410:49 PM

Music CityMember

This week, it's RTFB...

9/16/1410:57 PM

phaedrusMember

Originally Posted by Packy:

Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.

But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!

I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.

9/16/1410:58 PM

Satori"...going where the climate suits my clothes"

riveting repartee

9/16/1410:58 PM

EsoxMember

Originally Posted by Music City:

This week, it's RTFB...

With the lions secondary? Nah...I rather see another 200 plus yards for Jordy and several more TDs for Cobb or visa versa and more passes to D Adams. However, I am all for mixing it up. The last thing I want to see is the Packers trying to establish a running game against the lion D-line - I'll have another freakin seizure if that happens.

9/16/1411:56 PM

ammoCheese Master

Originally Posted by phaedrus:

I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.

WOW.. Just WOW.

9/17/143:55 AM

FLPACKERMember

I worry about the Lions pass rush on turf. I think we will come out playing very fast, no huddle quick passing game trying to tire their pass rushers. My biggest fear is that we attempt to run, are not successful & get into third & long situations.....that would be very dangerous this week.

9/17/145:10 AM

michiganjoeMember

It's very easy to envision Derick Sherrod being a human turnstile in this game and I hope MM continues to give him plenty of help. AR gets time and the Lion secondary is extremely vulnerable.

9/17/146:01 AM

FedyaMember

quote:
st year Buck Cherry got schooled by Ziggy Ansah don't forget

I'd like to forget last year's game in Detroit.

9/17/146:16 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

Originally Posted by BrainDed:

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

BrainDed

you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty

No it's not, as long as you have 7 on the line.

If the LT is lined up off the LOS and did not report, that is a penalty... no matter how many players are on the LOS.

Originally Posted by Satori:

riveting repartee

Are you not entertained?

9/17/148:47 AM

Grave DiggerMember

I expect the Lions will try to use a similar gameplan to what Seattle used...lots of zone reads for Bush/Bell and we will probably see Golden Taint on that Jet Sweep a few times.

The problem is: Seattle is a very talented AND a very disciplined team, Detroit just has a few talented players that aren't disciplined. It won't be easy by any means, but it will be the same story as always...we will pressure Stafford into making mistakes and Rodgers will carve up their secondary regardless of the pressure.

9/17/149:00 AM

PackyMember

Hopefully, Rodgers can get a couple offside penalties with the hard count too.

9/17/149:09 AM

Rusty42 inch pythons brother!

Originally Posted by phaedrus:

Originally Posted by Packy:

Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.

But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!

I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.

That's slightly less reprehensible than the fans who adopted the Vikings as their 2nd favorite due to Favre/Jennings, etc.

9/17/149:23 AM

Grave DiggerMember

I don't see the Lions as being much different from the Jets really. Stafford is a more veteran QB than Geno and CJ is obviously more talented than Erik Dekker, but really they're built very similar. RB-by-committee with a speed back and a power back, tall #1 WR, very little at TE, and a D that is completely reliant on the front 7 to do all the work.

9/17/149:24 AM

phaedrusMember

Originally Posted by ammo:

Originally Posted by phaedrus:

I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.

WOW.. Just WOW.

What the heck does that mean?

I tend to like teams that are inept. As an example, I'd be more inclined to be a Red Sox or Cubs fan (Red Sox before winning their first WS since selling Ruth) than other teams.

I do not like their present dirty play. I like their Thanksgiving tradition. Loved Barry Sanders. Liked other players (Lem Barney).

9/17/149:25 AM

ammoCheese Master

If I have to tell you, you still won't get it.

9/17/149:50 AM

phaedrusMember

I would be very surprised that if you told me, I would not "get it."

I may not agree, but my guess is I would understand your point.

I could anticipate one argument being it is natural to hate division rivals. Not everyone feels that way. I root against division rivals because I want the Packers in the playoffs. But if, as an example, the Packers are out of the playoffs, I tend to root for their division so as to represent it well.

9/17/1410:13 AM

LarseeBearMember

I will never cheer for the queens or barz. Under any circumstances.

Lions have been so bad for so long that if the Pack is out of the playoffs, I'd cheer on the kittys.

9/17/1410:31 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

There can be only 1.

9/17/1410:49 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

@TyDunne

Calvin Johnson has 71 rec for 1,163 yards with 12 touchdowns in 12 games vs Packers (more than any team) but GB is 10-2 in those games.

9/17/1412:22 PM

bubbleboy789Member

@TomSilverstein

#Packers practice: CB Casey Hayward, LB Brad Jones, LB Andy Mulumba sidelined. S Micah Hyde and T Bryan Bulaga working.

Every time I go back and watch the Jets game I find more and more examples of Jamari Lattimore making plays I haven't seen Packers ILB's make in a long time.

I think we've accepted the fact that Hawk is a staple (for whatever reason) but Lattimore needs to start. He makes plays. If Jones continues to start over him then there is a serious coaching issue.

9/17/1412:39 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Tight end reception production: Through two games, the Lions aren't using their tight ends a ton in the passing game. Combined, Joseph Fauria, Eric Ebron and Brandon Pettigrew have six catches for 93 yards. Despite the Lions calling for balance, the tight ends seem to be at the very least the third or fourth option on almost every play behind Calvin Johnson (13 receptions, 247 yards), Golden Tate (11 receptions, 150 yards) and either Bush or Bell (combined 15 catches for 111 yards).

Surprised by drafting Ebron, he's been this quiet. Apparently had a fairly quiet training camp as well. Many a Packer fan weren't happy when the Lions drafted him.

9/17/1412:47 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

@TomSilverstein

CB Casey Hayward, LB Brad Jones, LB Andy Mulumba sidelined. Hyde and Bulaga working.

Hayward with the recurring hammy? Sounds like Mulumba will be heading to IR with ACL tear. Jones still sidelined, coaches decision, or maybe he has cranial rectitis. Nice to see that Hyde and Bulaga are practicing.

9/17/141:18 PM

Music CityMember

Originally Posted by Esox:

Originally Posted by Music City:

This week, it's RTFB...

They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.

9/17/141:21 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

@ByRyanWood ·

#Packers right tackle Bryan Bulaga practiced today, as he did last week. His left knee is still in a brace

@ByRyanWood ·

#Packers CB Casey Hayward was in shorts, without his helmet, and did not practice Wednesday. Could explain limited action Sunday.

@ByRyanWood ·

#Packers Insider blog: With Micah Hyde practicing Wednesday, GB should have full arsenal of safeties in Detroit.

9/17/141:24 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Originally Posted by Music City:

They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.

They weren't effective doing that last week against a better secondary then the battered one they face this week and the passing game did just fine.

Main things are Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball faster (2 of his 3 sacks were on him) and eliminate turnovers. I actually believe the opposite will happen. GB will come out throwing, Detoilet will give all the safety help they can and that will leave 7 in the box. Which then Lacy or Starks can hopefully exploit.

9/17/141:31 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

@RobDemovsky

Packers injury report:

Bulaga (knee) limited

Hayward (glute), DNP

Hyde (knee), limited

B. Jones (quad), DNP

Mulumba (knee), Out

McCarthy: Optimistic about Bulaga this week.

McCarthy will only be as descriptive with Casey Hayward as calling it a "glute strain."

9/17/141:43 PM

Satori"...going where the climate suits my clothes"

Originally Posted by packerboi:

Tight end reception production: Through two games, the Lions aren't using their tight ends a ton in the passing game.

Thanks for the blurb and its not unusual for teams to hold a few things under wraps for their divisional foes who know them really well. I think we'll see plenty of TE passing action on Sunday

9/17/141:51 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Interesting point Satan. Wonder if the same holds true for GB who hasn't been that productive at TE either. GB should have a healthy Bostick/Rodgers this week.

9/17/141:59 PM

FedyaMember

quote:
riveting repartee

What do you have against riveting?

9/17/142:02 PM

EsoxMember

Originally Posted by Music City:

They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.

Music, I can agree that if the Packers do not mix it up, then Rodgers could get killed, but I rather see the pass set up the run.

9/17/142:06 PM

EsoxMember

Originally Posted by Satori:

Thanks for the blurb and its not unusual for teams to hold a few things under wraps for their divisional foes who know them really well. I think we'll see plenty of TE passing action on Sunday

So...ahhh... what's the chances of the Packers doing that with Janis? Just askin'

9/17/142:10 PM

FedyaMember

If they're going to run the ball, make certain to run it on the side where the players can run-block.

9/17/142:23 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke to the media following Wednesday's practice. Here are the highlights from his news conference:

Packers injury report
OLB Andy Mulumba (knee, out), ILB Brad Jones (quadriceps, did not practice), CB Casey Hayward (glute, DNP), T Bryan Bulaga (knee, limited in practice), DB Micah Hyde (knee, limited).

On Bulaga:
Bryan went through all the walk-throughs. I don't know the exact amount of reps.

More optimistic about Bulaga?
Absolutely.

On Hayward:
Casey has a glute strain.

On cleaning up penalties:
You stay focused on the things you need to improve on. Playing within the rules is important. If you try to establish a style of play, we just emphasize it.

On Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson:
Calvin Johnson is a great player. They move him around. His ability to make big plays in all phases of the passing game is unique. He's obviously a focal point.

On the Lions' offense under new coach Jim Caldwell:
There have been changes. The utilization of the run game. There's still big-play potential.

On studying a new coach in the offseason:
You look into every coach's past history or how they may project.

On how the Packers' tight ends are doing:
After two games, I think opportunities in passing game have been limited but they improved from Week 1 to Week 2.

On Lions running back Reggie Bush:
He's an excellent football player. How we're going to go about attacking their offense, he's a weapon. He's unique. Their big-play ability with their offense is one of our toughest challenges this year.

On wide receiver Jordy Nelson's growth:
I think Jordy Nelson has been everything everybody thought he would be. He came in and contributed right away. He's a big receiver, smart and finishes catches. He does it all.

On having three straight NFC North games:
The biggest thing is the number of games in however many days are in front of us. This is a division game and we're going to take them one at a time. This is a big game going into Detroit.

On last year's Thanksgiving loss in Detroit:
It was a bad day. We lost the game. Bad day.

On the Packers defense's improvement:
We've played two games. We improved from Week 1 to Week 2 on defense.

On Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy:
New York Giants game, I thought he was outstanding. We have great respect for him. He's clearly one of their best players on defense. I really like both of those linebackers.

On Nelson's high number of touches:
Jordy Nelson's production is obviously a credit to him and the rest of our offense. However that sorts out, it's about scoring points at the end of the day.

On linebacker Andy Mulumba's knee injury:
He's lost for the season. Very unfortunate.

On recent NFL developments with Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice:
It's important to check your mail. We've definitely done that. We've talked about it as a football team.

9/17/142:48 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

"I really like both of those linebackers." - Mike McCarthy

I'm certain you do Mike. Of course you could say the same thing about the other 31 teams in the NFL now couldn't you?

9/17/143:03 PM

michiganjoeMember

What's the deal with Casey Hayward? Has he assumed Mike Neals' role as the perpetually injured defensive player?

Need to make Stafford uncomfortable and he'll throw the opposing team a few, just like Favre and Cutler. Defense needs to come up big and after the humiliation last year they should have plenty of motivation.

9/17/143:04 PM

Shoeless JoeMember

On Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy:

New York Giants game, I thought he was outstanding. We have great respect for him. He's clearly one of their best players on defense. I really like both of those linebackers.

MM likes Hawk too, that aint exactly a ringing endorsement for Levy.

9/17/143:15 PM

Satori"...going where the climate suits my clothes"

Match-up in the trenches will be really interesting to watch on Sunday.

Linsley instead of EDS vs Stompin' Sue. And its a chance for us to see how improved Bak is versus Ziggy and the rest of the Lions DL

Bak admitted he struggled last time out, Sunday is his chance at redemption and we'll need him. Irregardless if Bulaga or Sherrod plays RT - its likely BuckCherry is on his own on the left side

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...209z1-233800351.html

Bakhtiari's three sacks were more than he had allowed in the first 11 games combined. Michael Johnson nicked him for two half-sacks in Cincinnati, Ansah beat him for a half-sack Oct. 6, and Chicago's Julius Peppers beat him for a half-sack Nov. 4.

9/17/145:08 PM

Fond Du ArrigoNostradamus

Originally Posted by packerboi:

Tight end reception production: Through two games, the Lions aren't using their tight ends a ton in the passing game. Combined, Joseph Fauria, Eric Ebron and Brandon Pettigrew have six catches for 93 yards. Despite the Lions calling for balance, the tight ends seem to be at the very least the third or fourth option on almost every play behind Calvin Johnson (13 receptions, 247 yards), Golden Tate (11 receptions, 150 yards) and either Bush or Bell (combined 15 catches for 111 yards).

Surprised by drafting Ebron, he's been this quiet. Apparently had a fairly quiet training camp as well. Many a Packer fan weren't happy when the Lions drafted him.

Yeah. I would have given up a lot to move up and get him in Green and Gold. Definitely not the dynamo I was expecting this early in the season.

9/17/145:27 PM

heywardKaty Perry is bouncy

Something tells me the sight of Hawk in coverage will light a fire under Ebron.

9/17/145:52 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

Originally Posted by Esox:

So...ahhh... what's the chances of the Packers doing that with Janis?

I think they look at it as they have three solid vets in Nelson, Cobb, and Boykin. Adams has shown enough to start getting some snaps, but I think they'd rather not have a situation where there's two rookies out there at the same time. Davante gets the game work and develops quicker and he doesn't have to give up any snaps to Janis.

Edgar Bennett might very well be the best coach on the team He's pretty good about keeping the WRs away from the gameday roster until they're ready. I'd guess Janis still has to clean up some techniques. They show him what he needs to work on and until he gets it to an acceptable level and brings it on every snap we go with what we have.

Also consider the rookie wall. It's there, it's real, and it's not a bad idea to keep things slow and purposeful with him. Keep Janis fresh in case of injury to other guys and every game you don't use him is another game you get at the end where he'll be more polished from practice.

All that said I hope he's active this week for the fast dome surface and dusts some kitty cbs on some deep gos, vrrrooom!

9/17/146:15 PM

Ghost of LambeauMember

Janis is one injury away from getting some game snaps.

9/17/146:28 PM

PackerloverMember

I want revenge for Thanksgiving Day! Pack 44 Lions 2

9/17/147:47 PM

michiganjoeMember

Janis will probably have all sorts of friends and family at the game but unfortunately he's very likely to be inactive. He's strictly a developmental project (practice squad material) at this point and the only reason he's on the 53 is to not expose him to waivers.

Lots of fans are clamoring to see him in game action but that's likely quite a ways off.

9/18/141:41 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

Favre picks the Packers

9/18/148:26 AM

WolfPackMember

I thought I read somewhere that Rodgers has never lost to the Lions(when he played the whole game)?

The only 2 losses to Detroit by MM have come when Rodgers didnt play (Thanksgiving and

the game he was knocked out early)

9/18/1410:54 AM

Dr._BobMember

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

Favre picks the Packers

Favre is such a homer.

9/18/1412:03 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

Favre picks the Packers

Mostly because he was unable to send plays to the Lions.

9/18/1412:08 PM

The HecklerMember

Originally Posted by Ghost of Lambeau:

I will be at the game - thanks to a cousin. I am looking forward to it.

I will be there as well we make the journey to Detoilet about every other year to see this game. If you haven't been to Ford Field before it actually is a great stadium.

9/18/1412:13 PM

Ghost of LambeauMember

It will be at least the 2nd time for my cousin, but the first time for me. I will wear my AR jersey - as will about 85-90% of all Packer fans there. Maybe I should make a "X4" button and attach it to my jersey. If you see that, feel free to stop me and say hi. That will also give Boris some free advertizing.

9/18/1412:51 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke with the media for about six minutes after Thursday afternoon's practice. Here are the highlights.

On players returning from injuries:
(Cornerback) Casey (Hayward) worked today, took his reps. Casey and (right tackle) Bryan (Bulaga) were all limited. I'll have to look at the film to see what they all did.

On what makes the Detroit Lions scary:
We're not scared. I have full respect for their football team. With the coach and players they have, I think it's obvious they're a very talented team. That causes new challenges. I just think they're an excellent football team. The reality is it's a division game. Our division is a heavyweight division. We've always approached it that way.

On how the Packers respond after giving up big plays:
You have to keep playing. I think this game we played at Lambeau this past Sunday is a reflection of that. If you break down the big-play production, they were way ahead of us in the first quarter, we were able to tie it at halftime and finish ahead in the second half. That's a key component in the second half.

On Lions receiver Calvin Johnson:
Calvin's a great player. He's obviously the focal point for their passing game. You have to look at the full picture. You're obviously always aware of where he is. It's important for our guys, particularly our corners, to play with good technique, good leverage and just play football. Anytime you go against a top-notch player like Calvin, you can't let him take you out of your technique.

On rookie center Corey LInsley's first couple of weeks:
I think Corey's put together two good performances. He's off to a good, comfortable start. I think so far, so good.

On what makes Linsley so good:
Corey's a good football player. From the first day we put the pads on, I think Corey showed he belonge.d he's competing each and every day, and he's getting better. I like what he's done sso far.

On the Lions' run defense:
Detroit's a very good defense. It starts up front with the defensive line and their linebackers. I think they're excellent.

On the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty called against the Packers' sideline during Sunday's game against the New York Jets:
We've addressed it. We don't know who was actually penalized. Based on the communication with the official during and after the event right before halftime, and who he told me it was on and looking at the video and things like that, obviously something happened. We talked about it against today.

9/18/143:17 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

Right tackle Bryan Bulaga seemed to be moving around well in practice after spraining a medial collateral ligament in the Packers' regular-season opener against Seattle.

9/18/143:19 PM

EsoxMember

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

Lots of fans are clamoring to see him in game action but that's likely quite a ways off.

I hope that you are wrong.

9/18/149:01 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

After not stepping onto the field on defense in the opener against Seattle Davon House played 30 snaps against the Jets in place of Casey Hayward, who was relegated to 12 snaps on special teams.

House responded with two third-down pass breakups and a near interception. The only other pass thrown in his direction was a modest 6-yard completion to Jets receiver David Nelson, according to Pro Football Focus.

"I thought he played well," cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt said. "He got up and challenged. He played physical. The Davon House that played last week is the one I've been waiting for. Hopefully, it will continue the rest of the way."

The Packers maintain they'll use a week-by-week approach in deciding who plays and who sits. Hayward missed practice on Wednesday with a glute strain before returning in a limited capacity Thursday.

"It is very close," said Whitt of the competition among the cornerbacks. "Everything is measured – how you practice, your tests, we give the quizzes, how they perform, and those aspects. Then, the matchups, you know. Who do we want inside? Who do we want outside? It's all looked upon. Then, the decision has to be made." -Weston Hodkiewicz, Press-Gazette Media

I think part of this equation is figuring out the CB group for 2015. House just turned 25, it's his fourth year, and this season is his final exam. He should thoroughly understand the defense. There should be no mental blocks and now it's all about finishing the play and proving durable.

The Packers want to evaluate whether it's worth investing in him for the future or if it's better to bring back Tramon Williams. Tramon turns 32 in March. His play has been dependable for a while now, but 32 is heading towards the sunset for a CB. The Packers want House to show he can play consistently enough to take over a starting spot.

Hayward's contract runs through next year and it's not a bad thing to limit his snaps if his hamstrings are tightening up. He'll have plenty of opportunity this year when he heals. His most important role right now is a lab rat for treatment of hammies in conjunction with the GPS data from practice.

The next three weeks of division games are huge for learning about the state of the Packers. The first goal is always winning the division and nothing brings clarity to the level of talent on the roster than competing in division. The personnel is familiar and there's specific correction from the last meeting. I'd wager they want to get a good look at Shields against Calvin. If TW is gone Shields needs to be able to slow him down.

9/18/1410:52 PM

Timmy!TIMMAAAAYYY!!

There's no way I'd sign Hayward to a long-term deal until he shows he can overcome his hammy issues. He's essentially been fighting it for 2 years or more now.

Tramon is in a take-it-or-leave-it situation. If he is willing to do modest 2-year deal (as one example), I'd keep him in a heartbeat. Otherwise, he can test FA.

He does look like he's playing his best ball in a couple of years so far this season. Just hope he continues that.

9/18/1411:09 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

I think Janis is further along than most practice players based on his physical skills and big play potential. He's a small school guy with a ceiling equivalent to a second rounder. It's not something you can say about most practice squad guys

They have a good idea of what he can do and how they'd like to use him by now. I'd imagine he has a block of plays to work on that they can go to in case he needs to be activated because of injury, It's just a matter of him refining that set and building on what he does best.

I think very little of it involves no huddle at this point and they love running in no huddle so if he has to play they'll adjust the offense when he's on the field and slow the pace down.

He has the deep speed to take the top off the defense. Getting off the line is probably the heavy focus of his development right now. Luckily they have hours of film of a guy with a similar build in Jordy for him to learn from. From there it's up to Janis to put the work in. It's up to him to push for playing time if no one gets hurt but the depth chart is stacked in front of him and that's a good thing.

9/18/1411:30 PM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

Nice analysis titm. I still would like to see him on KOR.

9/19/147:14 AM

titmfatiedNo Code

We have Cheffers reffing the game this week. His crew has called the most penalties per game so far. Averaging 28.5. Get ready for a long game.

9/19/1410:24 AM

Shoeless JoeMember

Put some Metamucil in their Geritol, that way they'll want to get it over with faster.

9/19/1410:30 AM

PackLandVAMember

Originally Posted by titmfatied:

We have Cheffers reffing the game this week. His crew has called the most penalties per game so far. Averaging 28.5. Get ready for a long game.

That might not be a bad thing as the Lions have severl players that tend to be undisciplined.

9/19/1411:06 AM

PDXPackFanMember

Originally Posted by packerboi:

Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke with the media for about six minutes after Thursday afternoon's practice. Here are the highlights.

On what makes the Detroit Lions scary:
We're not scared.

Of course you aint scared MM, these arnt the Seahawks afterall

9/19/1411:17 AM

packerboiI lick rainbows

ALLEN PARK, Mich. – Detroit’s injury-go-corner is continuing to spin.

What began as a comfortable position entering the season with the improving Bill Bentley turned into a question mark with Nevin Lawson when Bentley suffered a torn ACL. Then Lawson sustained dislocated toes, leaving veteran Cassius Vaughn as the next corner up.

That might have lasted less than a week.
The slot cornerbacks have been dropping all over the place – in games and even in practice this week with Vaughn being limited Wednesday and out Thursday, leaving him at least questionable for Sunday.

Not knowing who could be at the nickel can change what defensive coordinator Teryl Austin and head coach Jim Caldwell want to do during a week.

“There are some things you can do exactly the same,” Caldwell said. “There are some things that happen where all of a sudden you have to play towards that individual’s strengths so it allows you to do some things that you weren’t able to do before.

“The antithesis of that would be that there are some weaknesses that may come to light as well so schematically you want to stay away from those things that put you in bad positions.”

This is what the Lions have to figure out, especially if Vaughn ends up unable to play. If that is the case, Detroit will either move Rashean Mathis inside on Randall Cobb and play newly signed free agent Danny Gorrer on the outside, have Gorrer play the slot or drop Don Carey down into the slot -- a position he has played before.

Considering Vaughn’s status as of now, it might be a combination of things throughout the game.

The real damage, though, is what happens in games when the Lions lose a nickel corner.

9/19/1411:24 AM

michiganjoeMember

I see Bulaga is once again questionable. The combination of Detroit's DL, the playing surface and Derek Sherrod adds up to a potential disaster and I hope he's able to go.

9/19/1412:29 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

The Green Bay Packers will let Saturday's final practice play out before making an assessment on right tackle Bryan Bulaga's availability for Sunday's game against the New York Jets.

Bulaga (sprained MCL) and cornerback Casey Hayward (glute) were listed as questionable to play Sunday after both players practiced in limited fashion Thursday.

Inside linebacker Brad Jones (quad) and outside linebacker Andy Mulumba (torn ACL) have been ruled out. Defensive back Micah Hyde (knee) is probable to play after being upgraded to a full participant in Thursday's practice.

Bulaga was questionable last week, too, before the Packers held him out against the Jets. If Bulaga can't go, Derek Sherrod would make his second career start at right tackle.

"Bryan Bulaga and really Casey is in the same boat," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. "They're progressing well. Yesterday went well. They are obviously in treatments today, extended treatments, but they have to get through the whole thing tomorrow. That's the only hurdle left."

On if Bulaga playing on Ford Field turf will be factored in:
"We're going to practice on turf tomorrow. That's going to be part of our decision-making process."

On Jamari Lattimore's performance last week:
"I thought Jamari did a nice job. Jamari plays with excellent energy and he's a very good football player. Yeah, I'm very pleased with Jamari."
Will Lattimore start again Sunday?
"Correct."

Surprised the amount of progress Micah Hyde was able to make?
"Well, going off the information from the medical staff on Micah Hyde and Micah's personality. You're going to have to cut his arm off to keep him off the field, so I had confidence he'd get back."

On having B.J. Raji around:
"B.J. Raji is a big part of our team. He has been for a number of years. Our one-on-one conversation was a topic about A) He wanted to be here. B) We want him to be here. He's part of our locker room. He can help the younger guys. It's a young defensive line. He's here rehabbing every day. It's in his personal best interest and our football team's best interest."

On Derek Sherrod's play against New York Jets:
"He played well. Derek is ready to go. He's prepared and ready to go. Derek Sherrod going into the game in Seattle, obviously going into a game is a bigger challenge than preparing the whole week and playing. I think he definitely took a huge step from Week 1 to Week 2. He had a lot of work this week, too, because Bryan had limited reps. Just getting better. I feel good about Derek and the direction he's going."